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[ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
The Struts 1.2.4 Test Build is now available here:
http://cvs.apache.org/dist/struts/v1.2.4/
This build fixes some problems with the 1.2.3 Test Build, and fixes some
additional outstanding issues.
Once feedback has been collected on the stability and quality of this
release, a determination will be made as to whether it should be promoted
to General Availability (GA) status, and replace the recently withdrawn
1.2.2 release.
You are encouraged to download and test this build at your earliest
convenience, and provide your feedback via the lists or via the bug
database.
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>.
Two books I know of are pretty good...
"Struts Survival Guide"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0974848808/qid=1096432379/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-6689712-8125649?v=glance&s=books
and
"Programming Jakarta Struts"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596003285/qid=1096432414/sr=ka-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-6689712-8125649
The second goes into a lot more detail and is overall a better book
(O'Reilly books generally are very good), but the first might be the
better choice for you... I know the description talks about best
practices and such, but it actually starts out assuming you know
basically nothing about Struts and, frankly, doesn't go too much into
best practices per se. I very much recommend it, most especially for
someone new to Struts.
Langdon Stevenson wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I am in a pretty similar position to you in that I am now to Struts
>>> (also new to Java).
>>>
>>> I downloaded the Jakata Struts Live PDF document and worked through
>>> the tutorials there in.
>>>
>>> See:
>>> http://www.theserverside.com/books/sourcebeat/JakartaStrutsLive/index.tss
>>>
>>>
>>> Others in my team have the books and find them of little value.
>>>
>>
>> I know what you are saying, Langdon, but warn you that a lot of those
>> solutions on the Googling are really poor solutions. I am sure you
>> know that already.
>>
>> Michael McGrady
>
>
>
> Hi Michael
>
> I dare say that you are right about that. At the moment though my
> knowledge on Struts/Tomcat/Java is very limited, so getting something
> that works at all is my first priority. Once I have a working solution
> I can step back and look at performance issues, scalability etc, filling
> in the gaps in my newly acquired knowledge.
>
> The other area that Google really helps me in is trouble shooting. If I
> get error XYZ I just run a search in Google and I have never failed to
> find a solution that says something along the lines of "you need to put
> library X on your classpath", or "only version 4.0.x/5.0.x of Tomcat
> will work with the IDEA Tomcat plug-in".
>
> Regards,
> Langdon
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by Langdon Stevenson <ls...@objectpositive.com>.
>> Hi
>>
>> I am in a pretty similar position to you in that I am now to Struts
>> (also new to Java).
>>
>> I downloaded the Jakata Struts Live PDF document and worked through
>> the tutorials there in.
>>
>> See:
>> http://www.theserverside.com/books/sourcebeat/JakartaStrutsLive/index.tss
>>
>> Others in my team have the books and find them of little value.
>>
>
> I know what you are saying, Langdon, but warn you that a lot of those
> solutions on the Googling are really poor solutions. I am sure you know
> that already.
>
> Michael McGrady
Hi Michael
I dare say that you are right about that. At the moment though my
knowledge on Struts/Tomcat/Java is very limited, so getting something
that works at all is my first priority. Once I have a working solution
I can step back and look at performance issues, scalability etc, filling
in the gaps in my newly acquired knowledge.
The other area that Google really helps me in is trouble shooting. If I
get error XYZ I just run a search in Google and I have never failed to
find a solution that says something along the lines of "you need to put
library X on your classpath", or "only version 4.0.x/5.0.x of Tomcat
will work with the IDEA Tomcat plug-in".
Regards,
Langdon
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by "M. Onur Tokan" <ot...@gmail.com>.
hi, for deeper coverage of what is happening behind the sceens, look
for "Struts in Action" Manning Book
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:08:25 -0700, Craig McClanahan <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:12:58 -0700, Michael McGrady
> <mi...@michaelmcgrady.com> wrote:
> >
> > I know what you are saying, Langdon, but warn you that a lot of those
> > solutions on the Googling are really poor solutions. I am sure you know
> > that already.
> >
>
> Your definition of "a lot" must be quite different from mine, because
> I find this approach to be a very effective problem solving solution.
> Of course, there is no way to tell whether any particular proposed
> solution is going to work or not, but I am much more likely to try
> something out than to believe someone who makes unsubstantiated
> generalizations.
>
> Note that I'm not judging solutions on the basis of whether I *like*
> them or not -- I judge them just as much based on whether they *work*
> or not. I'll be happy to discuss what I believe to be the
> consequences of particular approaches, but I'm not a "my way or the
> highway" sort of person about *any* technical decision. How about
> you?
>
> > Michael McGrady
>
> Craig
>
>
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by Michael McGrady <mi...@michaelmcgrady.com>.
Craig McClanahan wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:12:58 -0700, Michael McGrady
><mi...@michaelmcgrady.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I know what you are saying, Langdon, but warn you that a lot of those
>>solutions on the Googling are really poor solutions. I am sure you know
>>that already.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Your definition of "a lot" must be quite different from mine, because
>I find this approach to be a very effective problem solving solution.
>
>
I find this approach to be a very effective problem solving solution
too. So, I am not sure why you think our "definition" of "a lot" (which
does not have a "definition", of course, but different uses) "must be
quite different". I usually find, in fact, that Googling leads me to
something better than I thought, and much of what I have left as a trail
is what I would call a "really poor solution".
>Of course, there is no way to tell whether any particular proposed
>solution is going to work or not, but I am much more likely to try
>something out than to believe someone who makes unsubstantiated
>generalizations.
>
>
I am not sure what this means. I was suggesting newcomers use books
rather than Googling. I am sure you don't mean books make
"unsubstantiated generalizations".
>Note that I'm not judging solutions on the basis of whether I *like*
>them or not -- I judge them just as much based on whether they *work*
>or not. I'll be happy to discuss what I believe to be the
>consequences of particular approaches, but I'm not a "my way or the
>highway" sort of person about *any* technical decision. How about
>you?
>
>
I don't like the "my way or the highway" sort of person either. I
believe that good old fashioned debate is likely to find a good, better,
way, however, and am not solipsistic about life. What ticks me off is
when people use political position, group dynamics, name calling,
misinformation, etc. to turn a debate in favor of a solution that does
not advance "the common cause" but their own selves. I can be a real
pain in the butt when I think that is going on.
Michael
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:12:58 -0700, Michael McGrady
<mi...@michaelmcgrady.com> wrote:
>
> I know what you are saying, Langdon, but warn you that a lot of those
> solutions on the Googling are really poor solutions. I am sure you know
> that already.
>
Your definition of "a lot" must be quite different from mine, because
I find this approach to be a very effective problem solving solution.
Of course, there is no way to tell whether any particular proposed
solution is going to work or not, but I am much more likely to try
something out than to believe someone who makes unsubstantiated
generalizations.
Note that I'm not judging solutions on the basis of whether I *like*
them or not -- I judge them just as much based on whether they *work*
or not. I'll be happy to discuss what I believe to be the
consequences of particular approaches, but I'm not a "my way or the
highway" sort of person about *any* technical decision. How about
you?
> Michael McGrady
Craig
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by Michael McGrady <mi...@michaelmcgrady.com>.
Langdon Stevenson wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am in a pretty similar position to you in that I am now to Struts
> (also new to Java).
>
> I downloaded the Jakata Struts Live PDF document and worked through
> the tutorials there in.
>
> See:
> http://www.theserverside.com/books/sourcebeat/JakartaStrutsLive/index.tss
>
> Others in my team have the books and find them of little value.
>
> I am doing fine without a printed text. Google is better for problem
> solving. You will quickly find an answer to almost every Struts
> question you could imagine out there on the net. Any that you can't
> find yourself, this group can answer.
>
> I would save the dollars (spend it on faster bandwidth if you have
> to!). If you are prepared to search, read, and problem solve, then
> the net is the most complete and up to date source of information.
>
> Regards,
> Langdon
I know what you are saying, Langdon, but warn you that a lot of those
solutions on the Googling are really poor solutions. I am sure you know
that already.
Michael McGrady
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by Langdon Stevenson <ls...@objectpositive.com>.
Hi
I am in a pretty similar position to you in that I am now to Struts
(also new to Java).
I downloaded the Jakata Struts Live PDF document and worked through the
tutorials there in.
See:
http://www.theserverside.com/books/sourcebeat/JakartaStrutsLive/index.tss
Others in my team have the books and find them of little value.
I am doing fine without a printed text. Google is better for problem
solving. You will quickly find an answer to almost every Struts
question you could imagine out there on the net. Any that you can't
find yourself, this group can answer.
I would save the dollars (spend it on faster bandwidth if you have to!).
If you are prepared to search, read, and problem solve, then the net
is the most complete and up to date source of information.
Regards,
Langdon
> Hello,
>
> Just want to get some advice on buying a book.
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by "joe a." <ew...@gmail.com>.
I got my first app up by following the tutorial in Jakarta Struts Live
It taught me how to use the validation framework to get enterprise
level form validation up and running. It took me a while to get it
right, but I think I would have been hopeless without it !
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:58:50 +1200, struts Dude <sc...@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just want to get some advice on buying a book.
>
> I have the book 'Struts in Action' already, thinking of buying the other
> book
> 'Programming Jakarta Struts' 2nd editn to complement it.
>
> Now is this a waste of $ ?? What does someone who have both books think.
> BTW,
> I am not experienced Struts developer yet. I am afraid both books might
> cover
> too much of the same materials.
>
> I got tempted of buying this book after I download the storefront
> application for the book
> 'Programming Jakarta Struts' and kind of impressed by it and because it
> cover JSF.
>
> Thanks
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Re: Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by Michael McGrady <mi...@michaelmcgrady.com>.
struts Dude wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just want to get some advice on buying a book.
>
> I have the book 'Struts in Action' already, thinking of buying the
> other book
> 'Programming Jakarta Struts' 2nd editn to complement it.
>
> Now is this a waste of $ ?? What does someone who have both books
> think. BTW,
> I am not experienced Struts developer yet. I am afraid both books
> might cover
> too much of the same materials.
>
> I got tempted of buying this book after I download the storefront
> application for the book
> 'Programming Jakarta Struts' and kind of impressed by it and because
> it cover JSF.
>
> Thanks
Heh, Struts Dude,
I personally think this is a great book. There are lots of good books
on Struts out there. Nothing, in my opinion, beats actually reading the
code. The documentation just does not do the code justice. Stay away,
in my opinion, from the weak code in the Struts framework. Learn the
essentials, the taglibs and the related commons classes.
Michael McGrady
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Seeking advice for buying a Struts book
Posted by struts Dude <sc...@slingshot.co.nz>.
Hello,
Just want to get some advice on buying a book.
I have the book 'Struts in Action' already, thinking of buying the other
book
'Programming Jakarta Struts' 2nd editn to complement it.
Now is this a waste of $ ?? What does someone who have both books think.
BTW,
I am not experienced Struts developer yet. I am afraid both books might
cover
too much of the same materials.
I got tempted of buying this book after I download the storefront
application for the book
'Programming Jakarta Struts' and kind of impressed by it and because it
cover JSF.
Thanks
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Project management web application with CVS?
Posted by struts Dude <sc...@slingshot.co.nz>.
Hi
Has anyone written a project management web application
using Struts with CVS server??
I am thinking of writing 1 and wud most interested to hear from
someone who has done this already to stop reinventing wheel.
Thanks
Duuude where is my car ...
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Rick Reumann <st...@reumann.net>.
Terry Roe wrote the following on 9/15/2004 12:31 PM:
> My main problem is finding accurate, up-to-date information. This
> mailing list is a good source, but the noise level is high and it's easy
> to miss important information.
Make sure you always view mailing lists threaded (I know you probably
already know this) but just in case. That way all of the related noise
stays grouped together. Most mail clients will display the threads
collapsed or expanded. Collapse them all and then go through and pick
the threads you are interested in reading and expand those (delete the
others). This list does have a lot of noise but it's by far one of the
most helpful and informative lists I've ever been on. The ratio to
answered questions per asked questions is extremely high.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ja...@wendysmoak.com>.
From: "Wendy Smoak" <ja...@wendysmoak.com>
> He has a point-- if you go to Download->Binaries it gives you 1.2.2.
>
> I asked about it on the dev list, hopefully someone can drop the 1.1 files
> into some directory and the download page (which is a .cgi) will magically
> change. (Well, after all the mirrors get updated... which might be the
> reason for leaving 1.2.2 there, knowing another release is coming soon.
> Onward!)
Following up on this, it's too difficult to get the Downloads page to point
at the 1.1 release, so they're waiting for the next GA release to replace
1.2.2. They're voting on 1.2.4 now, so hopefully that will do it.
Apologies to the recently arrived... this is a particularly confusing time,
I don't remember a GA release ever being withdrawn before, complicated by
the recent change from Struts being under Jakarta to being on its own as an
Apache project.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ja...@wendysmoak.com>.
From: "Matt Bathje" <mp...@ntsource.com>
> On the acquiring page it quite clearly says that 1.1 is the latest
> stable build, and 1.2.4 is the latest dev build. It makes no mention of
> 1.2.2.
He has a point-- if you go to Download->Binaries it gives you 1.2.2.
I asked about it on the dev list, hopefully someone can drop the 1.1 files
into some directory and the download page (which is a .cgi) will magically
change. (Well, after all the mirrors get updated... which might be the
reason for leaving 1.2.2 there, knowing another release is coming soon.
Onward!)
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Terry Roe <li...@terryroe.com>.
Matt,
I appreciate the fact that information is available "somewhere".
However, your somewhere, my somewhere, and someone else's somewhere may
not all be the same. My point is that inconsistent, inaccurate, or
outdated information is misleading, causes confusion, and wastes time.
I understand that documentation and providing "meta" information about
the project is not high on the developers' lists. That's cool. I'm on
a quest to perhaps help out in that area. I'm getting good information
from you, and others, on how to do that.
TR
Matt Bathje wrote:
> Terry Roe wrote:
>
>> Matt and Wendy,
>>
>> Thanks for the info. I'm not attempting to "change" culture, but
>> rather understand, and use, it as best I can. I know things can get
>> messy now and then, but it will lead to confusion for the poor soul
>> who's just discovered Struts and is trying dig their way in. If a
>> newbie shows up today at the Struts site, there's no information
>> indicating that 1.2.2 was "withdrawn" nor how to get version 1.2.4.
>>
>
> On the acquiring page it quite clearly says that 1.1 is the latest
> stable build, and 1.2.4 is the latest dev build. It makes no mention of
> 1.2.2.
>
> Like I said - the announcments page is just a list of announcements, not
> a list of what should be downloaded.
>
> I know when I was new to struts I never even glanced at the
> announcements page or though I should download from there, but went
> right to the acquiring page...maybe I'm not normal though
> (well...definitley not...but that isn't the point.)
>
>
>
>> BTW, I am not a "newbie" but I do understand the newbie/user point of
>> view. I hope to use that insight to help improve things either
>> through suggestions, or through actual submissions to the project.
>> Where should I suggest improvements to the website and/or information
>> contained, therein? Perhaps the dev mailing list is where I need to
>> go next.
>>
>> TR
>
>
>
> Your best bet is to check out the pages from cvs, make the changes, and
> commit patches to bugzilla. That will get much more attention than just
> posting to the dev list.
>
>
> Matt
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
>
> Your best bet is to check out the pages from cvs, make the changes, and
> commit patches to bugzilla. That will get much more attention than just
> posting to the dev list.
Amen brudda!!!
>
>
> Matt
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Matt Bathje <mp...@ntsource.com>.
Terry Roe wrote:
> Matt and Wendy,
>
> Thanks for the info. I'm not attempting to "change" culture, but rather
> understand, and use, it as best I can. I know things can get messy now
> and then, but it will lead to confusion for the poor soul who's just
> discovered Struts and is trying dig their way in. If a newbie shows up
> today at the Struts site, there's no information indicating that 1.2.2
> was "withdrawn" nor how to get version 1.2.4.
>
On the acquiring page it quite clearly says that 1.1 is the latest
stable build, and 1.2.4 is the latest dev build. It makes no mention of
1.2.2.
Like I said - the announcments page is just a list of announcements, not
a list of what should be downloaded.
I know when I was new to struts I never even glanced at the
announcements page or though I should download from there, but went
right to the acquiring page...maybe I'm not normal though
(well...definitley not...but that isn't the point.)
> BTW, I am not a "newbie" but I do understand the newbie/user point of
> view. I hope to use that insight to help improve things either through
> suggestions, or through actual submissions to the project. Where should
> I suggest improvements to the website and/or information contained,
> therein? Perhaps the dev mailing list is where I need to go next.
>
> TR
Your best bet is to check out the pages from cvs, make the changes, and
commit patches to bugzilla. That will get much more attention than just
posting to the dev list.
Matt
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Terry Roe <li...@terryroe.com>.
Matt and Wendy,
Thanks for the info. I'm not attempting to "change" culture, but rather
understand, and use, it as best I can. I know things can get messy now
and then, but it will lead to confusion for the poor soul who's just
discovered Struts and is trying dig their way in. If a newbie shows up
today at the Struts site, there's no information indicating that 1.2.2
was "withdrawn" nor how to get version 1.2.4.
BTW, I am not a "newbie" but I do understand the newbie/user point of
view. I hope to use that insight to help improve things either through
suggestions, or through actual submissions to the project. Where should
I suggest improvements to the website and/or information contained,
therein? Perhaps the dev mailing list is where I need to go next.
TR
Matt Bathje wrote:
> Wendy Smoak wrote:
>
>> From: "Terry Roe" <li...@terryroe.com>
>>
>>> My main problem is finding accurate, up-to-date information. This
>>> mailing list is a good source, but the noise level is high and it's easy
>>> to miss important information. Could someone provide some insight into
>>> the strategy used for updating information on the Struts site? Also,
>>> any tips about getting the latest and most accurate information would be
>>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Struts site gets updated just like the Struts source code-- when the
>> volunteers who maintain it find the time. And fixing the code is more
>> important than fixing the website. I actually prefer that 1.2.2
>> remains on
>> the site, IIRC the problems with it aren't earth shattering and it will
>> encourage more people to move up from 1.1. Version 1.2.4 should be ready
>> soon enough.
>>
>> To stay informed, just keep reading here, and polish your mail filtering
>> skills. One step ahead of that is monitoring the developers' list.
>> If you
>> filter out all the CVS and Wiki commits it's fairly low-volume, and
>> that's
>> where the real stuff happens.
>>
>> This is open source-- things can be a little messy at times, but the end
>> result is amazing. Enjoy the show, answer some questions, ask some more,
>> it'll get done when it gets done.
>>
>> Try as you might... you're not going to change the culture here. We
>> like it
>> this way. ;)
>>
>
>
> Also, I'm pretty sure that they accept documentation updates the same
> way they accept code updates. (Assuming they agree with what you type)
>
> I think the reason 1.2.4 is not mentioned on the announcements page yet
> is that it is not an official release yet - it was just released so
> users/developers could test it out, and then the committers will vote on
> whether to make it a release. Once it gets voted on, it will go to the
> announcements page.
>
> The announcements page is just a list of announcements, not a "what to
> download" type page. 1.2.2 is listed on their because it was at one
> point released as GA. (Whether there should be another announcement for
> its withdrawal is another question...) I wouldn't think stuff should be
> removed from it. (You can't change history :) )
>
> Anyways, the Acquiring page does list 1.1 as the "best" live version for
> now, and 1.2.4 as the best "dev" version.
>
> I agree with Wendy, if you want up to the second information on what is
> going on in Struts development, subscribe to the development list.
>
> Matt
>
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Matt Bathje <mp...@ntsource.com>.
Wendy Smoak wrote:
> From: "Terry Roe" <li...@terryroe.com>
>
>>My main problem is finding accurate, up-to-date information. This
>>mailing list is a good source, but the noise level is high and it's easy
>>to miss important information. Could someone provide some insight into
>>the strategy used for updating information on the Struts site? Also,
>>any tips about getting the latest and most accurate information would be
>>greatly appreciated.
>
>
> The Struts site gets updated just like the Struts source code-- when the
> volunteers who maintain it find the time. And fixing the code is more
> important than fixing the website. I actually prefer that 1.2.2 remains on
> the site, IIRC the problems with it aren't earth shattering and it will
> encourage more people to move up from 1.1. Version 1.2.4 should be ready
> soon enough.
>
> To stay informed, just keep reading here, and polish your mail filtering
> skills. One step ahead of that is monitoring the developers' list. If you
> filter out all the CVS and Wiki commits it's fairly low-volume, and that's
> where the real stuff happens.
>
> This is open source-- things can be a little messy at times, but the end
> result is amazing. Enjoy the show, answer some questions, ask some more,
> it'll get done when it gets done.
>
> Try as you might... you're not going to change the culture here. We like it
> this way. ;)
>
Also, I'm pretty sure that they accept documentation updates the same
way they accept code updates. (Assuming they agree with what you type)
I think the reason 1.2.4 is not mentioned on the announcements page yet
is that it is not an official release yet - it was just released so
users/developers could test it out, and then the committers will vote on
whether to make it a release. Once it gets voted on, it will go to the
announcements page.
The announcements page is just a list of announcements, not a "what to
download" type page. 1.2.2 is listed on their because it was at one
point released as GA. (Whether there should be another announcement for
its withdrawal is another question...) I wouldn't think stuff should be
removed from it. (You can't change history :) )
Anyways, the Acquiring page does list 1.1 as the "best" live version for
now, and 1.2.4 as the best "dev" version.
I agree with Wendy, if you want up to the second information on what is
going on in Struts development, subscribe to the development list.
Matt
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ja...@wendysmoak.com>.
From: "Terry Roe" <li...@terryroe.com>
> My main problem is finding accurate, up-to-date information. This
> mailing list is a good source, but the noise level is high and it's easy
> to miss important information. Could someone provide some insight into
> the strategy used for updating information on the Struts site? Also,
> any tips about getting the latest and most accurate information would be
> greatly appreciated.
The Struts site gets updated just like the Struts source code-- when the
volunteers who maintain it find the time. And fixing the code is more
important than fixing the website. I actually prefer that 1.2.2 remains on
the site, IIRC the problems with it aren't earth shattering and it will
encourage more people to move up from 1.1. Version 1.2.4 should be ready
soon enough.
To stay informed, just keep reading here, and polish your mail filtering
skills. One step ahead of that is monitoring the developers' list. If you
filter out all the CVS and Wiki commits it's fairly low-volume, and that's
where the real stuff happens.
This is open source-- things can be a little messy at times, but the end
result is amazing. Enjoy the show, answer some questions, ask some more,
it'll get done when it gets done.
Try as you might... you're not going to change the culture here. We like it
this way. ;)
--
Wendy Smoak
...doing "real work" with open source software...
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Struts 1.2.4 Test Build Available
Posted by Terry Roe <li...@terryroe.com>.
Martin, et al,
I have a few questions about announcements and the "current" version of
Struts.
First, is announcements@struts.apache.org defunct? (There are only two
entries in it and neither is very recent.)
Your message below states that 1.2.2 has been withdrawn. I see no
evidence of this on the Struts site. The Binaries Download is still
1.2.2. The last item under Announcements on the Struts site is about
1.2.2 GA. There's no mention of 1.2.2 being withdrawn. Where should
one look for up-to-date information if one isn't watching this mailing
list or perhaps missed/overlooked the posts here?
My main problem is finding accurate, up-to-date information. This
mailing list is a good source, but the noise level is high and it's easy
to miss important information. Could someone provide some insight into
the strategy used for updating information on the Struts site? Also,
any tips about getting the latest and most accurate information would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
TR
Martin Cooper wrote:
> The Struts 1.2.4 Test Build is now available here:
>
> http://cvs.apache.org/dist/struts/v1.2.4/
>
> This build fixes some problems with the 1.2.3 Test Build, and fixes some
> additional outstanding issues.
>
> Once feedback has been collected on the stability and quality of this
> release, a determination will be made as to whether it should be
> promoted to General Availability (GA) status, and replace the recently
> withdrawn 1.2.2 release.
>
> You are encouraged to download and test this build at your earliest
> convenience, and provide your feedback via the lists or via the bug
> database.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
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