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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by Peter Vines <pe...@callido.com> on 2003/12/08 12:28:37 UTC
Publication subscriptions
Hi List,
I'm considering using Lenya for an online publication that will require paid for
subsciptions with three tiers: free content, silver and gold. Does Lenya support
this at all and/or has anyone developed a publication with Lenya that has
implemented it. Have to make a decision pretty soon because of deadlines so any
thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Peter Vines.
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Re: Publication subscriptions
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Peter Vines wrote:
> Peter, what we need to do in a fairly short timeframe is to develop a
> content and subscription management application for a news and
> information service which would be similar to the www.thestreet.com. We
> don't really have much of a budget for the work and we're looking for a
> platform (preferably open source) to help speed up the development. I've
> been watching Lenya for some time and what struck me was our requirement
> is probably similar to that of Computerworld Switzerland which I
> understand uses Lenya (or perhaps Wyona).
yes, Computerworld Switzerland is currently using the previous version
of Lenya (aka Wyona CMS), but it will be upgraded to the new version by
the beginning of next year.
>
> We've two broad requirements:
>
> 1. To provide a publication workflow that:
> - allows journalists to write articles
> - editors to approve articles
> - articles to be published via the web
> - access to articles to be based on an end-user's subscription level
this is all possible
>
> 2. Subscription management that:
> - supports user profiling
do you also mean user tracking?
> - allows users to select a subscription level (eg bronze, silver, gold)
needs to be developed, but as said before shouldn't be very hard
> - allows users to make credit card payments for subscription
Lenya does not include something like that and would have to be covered
by a third party tool or also need to be developed resp. glued
Michi
>
> Hope that clarifies things a bit. Any thoughts suggestions would be
> appreciated as I'm a Lenya newbie at the moment. I'd love to give it a
> go with Lenya but don't want to get on the learning curve unless I'm
> reasonably sure it will do what we need.
>
> Regards
> Peter.
>
> Scherler, Thorsten wrote:
>
>> Peter Vines wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Michael. I guess though we'd still need to build some support
>>> for accepting online payments. Is that correct? Also we'd need to be
>>> able to categorise each content item so that it could only be
>>> accessed by users with the appropriate subscription level. Would this
>>> be a relatively easy thing to do?
>>
>>
>> Short answer: Yes!
>> Thoughts (with Knowledge of XSL,XML and basic Java): for example with
>> session tracking you could add the role of the user to a session bean.
>> This role would be read out in the sitemap as an input parameter of a
>> pipeline. That you can read out e.g. with <xsl:param> and from there
>> you would write your <xsl:template> role specific. ...but this is just
>> *ONE* way do it!
>> You wrote: "build some support for accepting online payments." What do
>> you mean with that?
>>
>>> Regards
>>> Peter.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Publication subscriptions
Posted by Peter Vines <pe...@callido.com>.
Peter, what we need to do in a fairly short timeframe is to develop a content
and subscription management application for a news and information service which
would be similar to the www.thestreet.com. We don't really have much of a budget
for the work and we're looking for a platform (preferably open source) to help
speed up the development. I've been watching Lenya for some time and what struck
me was our requirement is probably similar to that of Computerworld Switzerland
which I understand uses Lenya (or perhaps Wyona).
We've two broad requirements:
1. To provide a publication workflow that:
- allows journalists to write articles
- editors to approve articles
- articles to be published via the web
- access to articles to be based on an end-user's subscription level
2. Subscription management that:
- supports user profiling
- allows users to select a subscription level (eg bronze, silver, gold)
- allows users to make credit card payments for subscription
Hope that clarifies things a bit. Any thoughts suggestions would be appreciated
as I'm a Lenya newbie at the moment. I'd love to give it a go with Lenya but
don't want to get on the learning curve unless I'm reasonably sure it will do
what we need.
Regards
Peter.
Scherler, Thorsten wrote:
> Peter Vines wrote:
>
>> Thanks Michael. I guess though we'd still need to build some support
>> for accepting online payments. Is that correct? Also we'd need to be
>> able to categorise each content item so that it could only be accessed
>> by users with the appropriate subscription level. Would this be a
>> relatively easy thing to do?
>
> Short answer: Yes!
> Thoughts (with Knowledge of XSL,XML and basic Java): for example with
> session tracking you could add the role of the user to a session bean.
> This role would be read out in the sitemap as an input parameter of a
> pipeline. That you can read out e.g. with <xsl:param> and from there you
> would write your <xsl:template> role specific. ...but this is just *ONE*
> way do it!
> You wrote: "build some support for accepting online payments." What do
> you mean with that?
>
>> Regards
>> Peter.
>>
>
>
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Re: Publication subscriptions
Posted by "Scherler, Thorsten" <th...@apache.org>.
Peter Vines wrote:
> Thanks Michael. I guess though we'd still need to build some support for
> accepting online payments. Is that correct? Also we'd need to be able to
> categorise each content item so that it could only be accessed by users
> with the appropriate subscription level. Would this be a relatively easy
> thing to do?
Short answer: Yes!
Thoughts (with Knowledge of XSL,XML and basic Java): for example with
session tracking you could add the role of the user to a session bean.
This role would be read out in the sitemap as an input parameter of a
pipeline. That you can read out e.g. with <xsl:param> and from there you
would write your <xsl:template> role specific. ...but this is just *ONE*
way do it!
You wrote: "build some support for accepting online payments." What do
you mean with that?
> Regards
> Peter.
>
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Re: Publication subscriptions
Posted by Peter Vines <pe...@callido.com>.
Thanks Michael. I guess though we'd still need to build some support for
accepting online payments. Is that correct? Also we'd need to be able to
categorise each content item so that it could only be accessed by users with the
appropriate subscription level. Would this be a relatively easy thing to do?
Regards
Peter.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Peter Vines wrote:
>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I'm considering using Lenya for an online publication that will
>> require paid for subsciptions with three tiers: free content, silver
>> and gold.
>
>
> this is "just" a question of how to deploy the authorizer. You could
> probably create three Lenya groups: free, silver and gold and then use
> the sitetree based authorizer.
>
> Another question is how people register. But you wouldn't have to use
> Lenya for this. You could also use LDAP and an appropriate interface,
> whereas Lenya connects to LDAP for authentication.
>
> Michi
>
>> Does Lenya support this at all and/or has anyone developed a
>> publication with Lenya that has implemented it. Have to make a
>> decision pretty soon because of deadlines so any thoughts would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Peter Vines.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Publication subscriptions
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Peter Vines wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> I'm considering using Lenya for an online publication that will require
> paid for subsciptions with three tiers: free content, silver and gold.
this is "just" a question of how to deploy the authorizer. You could
probably create three Lenya groups: free, silver and gold and then use
the sitetree based authorizer.
Another question is how people register. But you wouldn't have to use
Lenya for this. You could also use LDAP and an appropriate interface,
whereas Lenya connects to LDAP for authentication.
Michi
> Does Lenya support this at all and/or has anyone developed a publication
> with Lenya that has implemented it. Have to make a decision pretty soon
> because of deadlines so any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Peter Vines.
>
>
>
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