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Posted to dev@felix.apache.org by Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> on 2010/06/01 05:01:02 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
And here is my +1 for moving karaf to a TLP.
Best Regards
Freeman
On 2010-5-31, at 下午5:14, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
> L.S.,
>
> Adding my (late) +1 for moving Karaf to a TLP
>
> Not sure if you're still looking for someone to take an initial stab
> at the project goal or if that's being discussed on the Felix PMC at
> the moment, but here's my proposal anyway:
> "... for the creation and maintenance of
> a small, extensible and enterprise-ready OSGi-based server runtime,
> capable of being a base framework for building other enterprise
> server applications,
> as well as the necessary tools, add-ons and components to facilitate
> building these applications"
>
> Regards,
>
> Gert Vanthienen
>
>
>
> On 30 May 2010 22:53, Lukasz Dywicki <lu...@dywicki.pl> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to say 'yes' for TLP (even if my vote doesn't count).
>>
>> I try contribute Karaf from time to time and I wish continue doing
>> that,
>> when it will move to top level too.
>>
>> For me it does not make sense to try close all OSGi releated things
>> in Felix
>> project. At this moment we have Aries which is also very closer to
>> OSGi but
>> it's not a part of Felix.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Lukasz Dywicki
>>
>>
>> Jarek Gawor-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to be involved with this TLP as well.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jarek
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least
>>>> amongst
>>>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really
>>>> expressed any opinion).
>>>>
>>>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to
>>>> the
>>>> board,
>>>> which would include:
>>>> * the project goal
>>>> * the project PMC (including the chair)
>>>>
>>>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to
>>>> invite
>>>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to
>>>> raise
>>>> hands
>>>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider
>>>> for now
>>>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar
>>>> for
>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later).
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal
>>>> asap, but
>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX:
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform
>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>>
>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project",
>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is
>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>> related to XXXXXXX; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache
>>>> Karaf" be
>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the
>>>> chair
>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary
>>>> responsibility
>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it
>>>> further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>> Apache Karaf Project:
>>>>
>>>> * xxx <xx...@apache.org>>
>>>> * ...
>>>>
>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX
>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>>>> Karaf, to
>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is
>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in
>>>> the
>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby
>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the
>>>> Apache
>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further
>>>>
>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the
>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf
>>>>> community as
>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks
>>>>> that
>>>>> none
>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in
>>>>> Karaf. I
>>>>> really
>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not
>>>>> the same
>>>>> (not sure
>>>>> where they actually diverge though).
>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing
>>>>> being
>>>>> part
>>>>> of Felix, so
>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html
>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
--
Freeman Fang
------------------------
Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, sounds even better.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:55, Alasdair Nottingham <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How about "an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise servers". To me the word assembling implies that everything you need exists in Karaf and it is just a case of pulling different bits from Karaf together. I don't think this is what is intended.
>
> My 2 cents worth.
> Alasdair
>
> Alasdair Nottingham
>
> On 1 Jun 2010, at 08:12, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why would we limit Karaf to the integration world ?
>> Karaf may be used as the base platform for ActiveMQ, Directory,
>> James, Geronimo, ServiceMix. All of those are not necesseraly geared
>> toward integration imho, and even if they were, Karaf itself does not
>> have anything specific to this area imho.
>>
>> I still think David's the best choice so far:
>>
>> "an OSGI based runtime for assembling enterprise servers"
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:06, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Here is a new suggestion based on remarks :
>>>
>>> "an OSGI-based runtime for assembling enterprise server applications
>>> integration oriented"
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>
>>> Senior Enterprise Architect (J2EE, .NET, SOA)
>>> Apache Camel/ServiceMix Committer
>>>
>>> *******************************************************************
>>> - Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>> - Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
>>> - Linkedlin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> And here is my +1 for moving karaf to a TLP.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Freeman
>>>> On 2010-5-31, at 下午5:14, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> L.S.,
>>>>>
>>>>> Adding my (late) +1 for moving Karaf to a TLP
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if you're still looking for someone to take an initial stab
>>>>> at the project goal or if that's being discussed on the Felix PMC at
>>>>> the moment, but here's my proposal anyway:
>>>>> "... for the creation and maintenance of
>>>>> a small, extensible and enterprise-ready OSGi-based server runtime,
>>>>> capable of being a base framework for building other enterprise
>>>>> server applications,
>>>>> as well as the necessary tools, add-ons and components to facilitate
>>>>> building these applications"
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gert Vanthienen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 May 2010 22:53, Lukasz Dywicki <lu...@dywicki.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to say 'yes' for TLP (even if my vote doesn't count).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I try contribute Karaf from time to time and I wish continue doing that,
>>>>>> when it will move to top level too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me it does not make sense to try close all OSGi releated things in
>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>> project. At this moment we have Aries which is also very closer to OSGi
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> it's not a part of Felix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Lukasz Dywicki
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jarek Gawor-2 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to be involved with this TLP as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jarek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst
>>>>>>>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really
>>>>>>>> expressed any opinion).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the
>>>>>>>> board,
>>>>>>>> which would include:
>>>>>>>> * the project goal
>>>>>>>> * the project PMC (including the chair)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite
>>>>>>>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise
>>>>>>>> hands
>>>>>>>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now
>>>>>>>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for
>>>>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but
>>>>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform
>>>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project",
>>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is
>>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>>> related to XXXXXXX; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be
>>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * xxx <xx...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>>> * ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX
>>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to
>>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby
>>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the
>>>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>>>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as
>>>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that
>>>>>>>>> none
>>>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> (not sure
>>>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though).
>>>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being
>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>> of Felix, so
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html
>>>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Freeman Fang
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Posted by Alasdair Nottingham <no...@apache.org>.
Hi,
How about "an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise servers". To me the word assembling implies that everything you need exists in Karaf and it is just a case of pulling different bits from Karaf together. I don't think this is what is intended.
My 2 cents worth.
Alasdair
Alasdair Nottingham
On 1 Jun 2010, at 08:12, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why would we limit Karaf to the integration world ?
> Karaf may be used as the base platform for ActiveMQ, Directory,
> James, Geronimo, ServiceMix. All of those are not necesseraly geared
> toward integration imho, and even if they were, Karaf itself does not
> have anything specific to this area imho.
>
> I still think David's the best choice so far:
>
> "an OSGI based runtime for assembling enterprise servers"
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:06, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> Here is a new suggestion based on remarks :
>>
>> "an OSGI-based runtime for assembling enterprise server applications
>> integration oriented"
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Charles Moulliard
>>
>> Senior Enterprise Architect (J2EE, .NET, SOA)
>> Apache Camel/ServiceMix Committer
>>
>> *******************************************************************
>> - Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>> - Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
>> - Linkedlin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> And here is my +1 for moving karaf to a TLP.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Freeman
>>> On 2010-5-31, at 下午5:14, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
>>>
>>>> L.S.,
>>>>
>>>> Adding my (late) +1 for moving Karaf to a TLP
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if you're still looking for someone to take an initial stab
>>>> at the project goal or if that's being discussed on the Felix PMC at
>>>> the moment, but here's my proposal anyway:
>>>> "... for the creation and maintenance of
>>>> a small, extensible and enterprise-ready OSGi-based server runtime,
>>>> capable of being a base framework for building other enterprise
>>>> server applications,
>>>> as well as the necessary tools, add-ons and components to facilitate
>>>> building these applications"
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Gert Vanthienen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 May 2010 22:53, Lukasz Dywicki <lu...@dywicki.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to say 'yes' for TLP (even if my vote doesn't count).
>>>>>
>>>>> I try contribute Karaf from time to time and I wish continue doing that,
>>>>> when it will move to top level too.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me it does not make sense to try close all OSGi releated things in
>>>>> Felix
>>>>> project. At this moment we have Aries which is also very closer to OSGi
>>>>> but
>>>>> it's not a part of Felix.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Lukasz Dywicki
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jarek Gawor-2 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to be involved with this TLP as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jarek
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst
>>>>>>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really
>>>>>>> expressed any opinion).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the
>>>>>>> board,
>>>>>>> which would include:
>>>>>>> * the project goal
>>>>>>> * the project PMC (including the chair)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite
>>>>>>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise
>>>>>>> hands
>>>>>>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now
>>>>>>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for
>>>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but
>>>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform
>>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project",
>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is
>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>> related to XXXXXXX; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be
>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * xxx <xx...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX
>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to
>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby
>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the
>>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as
>>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that
>>>>>>>> none
>>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> (not sure
>>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though).
>>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being
>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>> of Felix, so
>>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html
>>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Freeman Fang
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
You are right : "integration" is too restrictive ;-)
Kind regards,
Charles Moulliard
Senior Enterprise Architect (J2EE, .NET, SOA)
Apache Camel/ServiceMix Committer
*******************************************************************
- Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
- Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
- Linkedlin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why would we limit Karaf to the integration world ?
> Karaf may be used as the base platform for ActiveMQ, Directory,
> James, Geronimo, ServiceMix. All of those are not necesseraly geared
> toward integration imho, and even if they were, Karaf itself does not
> have anything specific to this area imho.
>
> I still think David's the best choice so far:
>
> "an OSGI based runtime for assembling enterprise servers"
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:06, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> Here is a new suggestion based on remarks :
>>
>> "an OSGI-based runtime for assembling enterprise server applications
>> integration oriented"
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Charles Moulliard
>>
>> Senior Enterprise Architect (J2EE, .NET, SOA)
>> Apache Camel/ServiceMix Committer
>>
>> *******************************************************************
>> - Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>> - Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
>> - Linkedlin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> And here is my +1 for moving karaf to a TLP.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Freeman
>>> On 2010-5-31, at 下午5:14, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
>>>
>>>> L.S.,
>>>>
>>>> Adding my (late) +1 for moving Karaf to a TLP
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if you're still looking for someone to take an initial stab
>>>> at the project goal or if that's being discussed on the Felix PMC at
>>>> the moment, but here's my proposal anyway:
>>>> "... for the creation and maintenance of
>>>> a small, extensible and enterprise-ready OSGi-based server runtime,
>>>> capable of being a base framework for building other enterprise
>>>> server applications,
>>>> as well as the necessary tools, add-ons and components to facilitate
>>>> building these applications"
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Gert Vanthienen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 May 2010 22:53, Lukasz Dywicki <lu...@dywicki.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to say 'yes' for TLP (even if my vote doesn't count).
>>>>>
>>>>> I try contribute Karaf from time to time and I wish continue doing that,
>>>>> when it will move to top level too.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me it does not make sense to try close all OSGi releated things in
>>>>> Felix
>>>>> project. At this moment we have Aries which is also very closer to OSGi
>>>>> but
>>>>> it's not a part of Felix.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Lukasz Dywicki
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jarek Gawor-2 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to be involved with this TLP as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jarek
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst
>>>>>>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really
>>>>>>> expressed any opinion).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the
>>>>>>> board,
>>>>>>> which would include:
>>>>>>> * the project goal
>>>>>>> * the project PMC (including the chair)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite
>>>>>>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise
>>>>>>> hands
>>>>>>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now
>>>>>>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for
>>>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but
>>>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform
>>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project",
>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is
>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>> related to XXXXXXX; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be
>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * xxx <xx...@apache.org>>
>>>>>>> * ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX
>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to
>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby
>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the
>>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as
>>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that
>>>>>>>> none
>>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> (not sure
>>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though).
>>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being
>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>> of Felix, so
>>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html
>>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Freeman Fang
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Why would we limit Karaf to the integration world ?
Karaf may be used as the base platform for ActiveMQ, Directory,
James, Geronimo, ServiceMix. All of those are not necesseraly geared
toward integration imho, and even if they were, Karaf itself does not
have anything specific to this area imho.
I still think David's the best choice so far:
"an OSGI based runtime for assembling enterprise servers"
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:06, Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> Here is a new suggestion based on remarks :
>
> "an OSGI-based runtime for assembling enterprise server applications
> integration oriented"
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Charles Moulliard
>
> Senior Enterprise Architect (J2EE, .NET, SOA)
> Apache Camel/ServiceMix Committer
>
> *******************************************************************
> - Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> - Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
> - Linkedlin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> And here is my +1 for moving karaf to a TLP.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Freeman
>> On 2010-5-31, at 下午5:14, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
>>
>>> L.S.,
>>>
>>> Adding my (late) +1 for moving Karaf to a TLP
>>>
>>> Not sure if you're still looking for someone to take an initial stab
>>> at the project goal or if that's being discussed on the Felix PMC at
>>> the moment, but here's my proposal anyway:
>>> "... for the creation and maintenance of
>>> a small, extensible and enterprise-ready OSGi-based server runtime,
>>> capable of being a base framework for building other enterprise
>>> server applications,
>>> as well as the necessary tools, add-ons and components to facilitate
>>> building these applications"
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gert Vanthienen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2010 22:53, Lukasz Dywicki <lu...@dywicki.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to say 'yes' for TLP (even if my vote doesn't count).
>>>>
>>>> I try contribute Karaf from time to time and I wish continue doing that,
>>>> when it will move to top level too.
>>>>
>>>> For me it does not make sense to try close all OSGi releated things in
>>>> Felix
>>>> project. At this moment we have Aries which is also very closer to OSGi
>>>> but
>>>> it's not a part of Felix.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Lukasz Dywicki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jarek Gawor-2 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to be involved with this TLP as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jarek
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst
>>>>>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really
>>>>>> expressed any opinion).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the
>>>>>> board,
>>>>>> which would include:
>>>>>> * the project goal
>>>>>> * the project PMC (including the chair)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite
>>>>>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise
>>>>>> hands
>>>>>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now
>>>>>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for
>>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but
>>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform
>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project",
>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is
>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>> related to XXXXXXX; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be
>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * xxx <xx...@apache.org>>
>>>>>> * ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX
>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to
>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby
>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the
>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as
>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that
>>>>>>> none
>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> (not sure
>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though).
>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> of Felix, so
>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html
>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Freeman Fang
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>>
>>
>
--
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
------------------------
Open Source SOA
http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Posted by Charles Moulliard <cm...@gmail.com>.
+1
Here is a new suggestion based on remarks :
"an OSGI-based runtime for assembling enterprise server applications
integration oriented"
Kind regards,
Charles Moulliard
Senior Enterprise Architect (J2EE, .NET, SOA)
Apache Camel/ServiceMix Committer
*******************************************************************
- Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
- Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard
- Linkedlin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And here is my +1 for moving karaf to a TLP.
>
> Best Regards
> Freeman
> On 2010-5-31, at 下午5:14, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
>
>> L.S.,
>>
>> Adding my (late) +1 for moving Karaf to a TLP
>>
>> Not sure if you're still looking for someone to take an initial stab
>> at the project goal or if that's being discussed on the Felix PMC at
>> the moment, but here's my proposal anyway:
>> "... for the creation and maintenance of
>> a small, extensible and enterprise-ready OSGi-based server runtime,
>> capable of being a base framework for building other enterprise
>> server applications,
>> as well as the necessary tools, add-ons and components to facilitate
>> building these applications"
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gert Vanthienen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30 May 2010 22:53, Lukasz Dywicki <lu...@dywicki.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to say 'yes' for TLP (even if my vote doesn't count).
>>>
>>> I try contribute Karaf from time to time and I wish continue doing that,
>>> when it will move to top level too.
>>>
>>> For me it does not make sense to try close all OSGi releated things in
>>> Felix
>>> project. At this moment we have Aries which is also very closer to OSGi
>>> but
>>> it's not a part of Felix.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Lukasz Dywicki
>>>
>>>
>>> Jarek Gawor-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would like to be involved with this TLP as well.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jarek
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst
>>>>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really
>>>>> expressed any opinion).
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the
>>>>> board,
>>>>> which would include:
>>>>> * the project goal
>>>>> * the project PMC (including the chair)
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite
>>>>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise
>>>>> hands
>>>>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now
>>>>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for
>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but
>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX:
>>>>>
>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform
>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project",
>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>> Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is
>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>> related to XXXXXXX; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be
>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>> Apache Karaf Project:
>>>>>
>>>>> * xxx <xx...@apache.org>>
>>>>> * ...
>>>>>
>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX
>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to
>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is
>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby
>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further
>>>>>
>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the
>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as
>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that
>>>>>> none
>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> (not sure
>>>>>> where they actually diverge though).
>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being
>>>>>> part
>>>>>> of Felix, so
>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html
>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Freeman Fang
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
>
>