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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com.INVALID> on 2016/09/07 21:01:59 UTC
finding a Champion
Hello,this is my first email on this mailing list. I'm looking for a champion to incubate a project. I wrote to a couple of people from projects which have some relation, but neither replied, so I suspect I'm doing something wrong. At this stage I'm looking for feedback on whether there might be interest, and if so whether the project should be incubated right now, or at a later stage.
Any feedback on how to find somebody to discuss this with is welcome.
Thanks,
Roberto
Re: finding a Champion
Posted by Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi Jake,yes, I'm aware of it. I have done an Integration of HTrace with some proprietary tracing framework. There are some fundamental aspect of the tracing model in HTrace (as well as the OpenTrace API) which I find limiting.
Thanks, Roberto
From: Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com>
Cc: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: finding a Champion
Hey RobertoHave you looked into Apache HTrace (incubating)?
-Jake
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
Hi John,thanks for your reply. Here is a brief description of the project and its current state.
Project Description
The project consists of a framework for concurrent and distributed tracing. I've been working on tracing at CISCO and Facebook for the last few years, and am now in the process of moving somewhere else, hence I'm interested in consolidating the experience I've accumulated into a new, open source framework with clean room implementation.
The framework comprises of:
- a producer API to instrument distributed system with, with support for all major programming languages. The API allows for pluggable sinks to target generation of traces in local files, integration with Kafka, or other event buses.in case of use of an event bus, a distributed service that consumes from it and stores in a persistent storage. The service will provide support for event storage, integrating with various storage, including Apache HBase
- A distributed service for batch trace analysis. This service continuously runs analysis script on traces flowing through the event bus. scripts can be dynamically added by users.
- A set of trace visualization tools.
One of the goals for this framework is the ability to scale from single-host applications, where it would not require running any server, to large scale distributed environment where it would allow running a fault-tolerant set of services.
Process State
The framework is in its early stage of development, but one element exist that will serve as bases for one the visualization tools. MSCViewer is and open source, trace visualization and analysis tool on Github. The tool is currently in use inside CiSCO. See https://github.com/rattias/ mscviewer, and it's manual: https://github.com/rattias/ mscviewer/blob/master/doc/ manual/mscviewer.pdf
What I'm looking for
At this stage I'm looking for mainly for feedback on whether a project in this early stage can or should be an Apache Incubation Project, and if so how to find a champion for it. If projects have to be more mature to enter the incubation stage I'll keep working on it and come back later.
Thanks, Roberto
From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
To: general@incubator.apache.org; Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: finding a Champion
HI Roberto & Welcome!
It might be a good thing to post some information about your project, what it does, if theres any existing source or community point links to it. Seeing something vibrant and functioning will definitely draw out a champion.
John
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:05 PM Roberto Attias <roberto_attias@yahoo.com. invalid> wrote:
Hello,this is my first email on this mailing list. I'm looking for a champion to incubate a project. I wrote to a couple of people from projects which have some relation, but neither replied, so I suspect I'm doing something wrong. At this stage I'm looking for feedback on whether there might be interest, and if so whether the project should be incubated right now, or at a later stage.
Any feedback on how to find somebody to discuss this with is welcome.
Thanks,
Roberto
Re: finding a Champion
Posted by Jake Farrell <jf...@apache.org>.
Hey Roberto
Have you looked into Apache HTrace (incubating)?
-Jake
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Roberto Attias <
roberto_attias@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> Hi John,thanks for your reply. Here is a brief description of the project
> and its current state.
>
> Project Description
> The project consists of a framework for concurrent and distributed
> tracing. I've been working on tracing at CISCO and Facebook for the last
> few years, and am now in the process of moving somewhere else, hence I'm
> interested in consolidating the experience I've accumulated into a new,
> open source framework with clean room implementation.
>
> The framework comprises of:
> - a producer API to instrument distributed system with, with support
> for all major programming languages. The API allows for pluggable sinks to
> target generation of traces in local files, integration with Kafka, or
> other event buses.in case of use of an event bus, a distributed service
> that consumes from it and stores in a persistent storage. The service will
> provide support for event storage, integrating with various storage,
> including Apache HBase
>
> - A distributed service for batch trace analysis. This service
> continuously runs analysis script on traces flowing through the event bus.
> scripts can be dynamically added by users.
> - A set of trace visualization tools.
>
>
> One of the goals for this framework is the ability to scale from
> single-host applications, where it would not require running any server, to
> large scale distributed environment where it would allow running a
> fault-tolerant set of services.
> Process State
> The framework is in its early stage of development, but one element exist
> that will serve as bases for one the visualization tools. MSCViewer is and
> open source, trace visualization and analysis tool on Github. The tool is
> currently in use inside CiSCO. See https://github.com/rattias/mscviewer,
> and it's manual: https://github.com/rattias/mscviewer/blob/master/doc/
> manual/mscviewer.pdf
>
> What I'm looking for
> At this stage I'm looking for mainly for feedback on whether a project in
> this early stage can or should be an Apache Incubation Project, and if so
> how to find a champion for it. If projects have to be more mature to enter
> the incubation stage I'll keep working on it and come back later.
> Thanks, Roberto
>
> From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org; Roberto Attias <
> roberto_attias@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: finding a Champion
>
> HI Roberto & Welcome!
> It might be a good thing to post some information about your project, what
> it does, if theres any existing source or community point links to it.
> Seeing something vibrant and functioning will definitely draw out a
> champion.
> John
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:05 PM Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,this is my first email on this mailing list. I'm looking for a
> champion to incubate a project. I wrote to a couple of people from projects
> which have some relation, but neither replied, so I suspect I'm doing
> something wrong. At this stage I'm looking for feedback on whether there
> might be interest, and if so whether the project should be incubated right
> now, or at a later stage.
>
> Any feedback on how to find somebody to discuss this with is welcome.
> Thanks,
> Roberto
>
>
>
>
>
Re: finding a Champion
Posted by Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi John,thanks for your reply. Here is a brief description of the project and its current state.
Project Description
The project consists of a framework for concurrent and distributed tracing. I've been working on tracing at CISCO and Facebook for the last few years, and am now in the process of moving somewhere else, hence I'm interested in consolidating the experience I've accumulated into a new, open source framework with clean room implementation.
The framework comprises of:
- a producer API to instrument distributed system with, with support for all major programming languages. The API allows for pluggable sinks to target generation of traces in local files, integration with Kafka, or other event buses.in case of use of an event bus, a distributed service that consumes from it and stores in a persistent storage. The service will provide support for event storage, integrating with various storage, including Apache HBase
- A distributed service for batch trace analysis. This service continuously runs analysis script on traces flowing through the event bus. scripts can be dynamically added by users.
- A set of trace visualization tools.
One of the goals for this framework is the ability to scale from single-host applications, where it would not require running any server, to large scale distributed environment where it would allow running a fault-tolerant set of services.
Process State
The framework is in its early stage of development, but one element exist that will serve as bases for one the visualization tools. MSCViewer is and open source, trace visualization and analysis tool on Github. The tool is currently in use inside CiSCO. See https://github.com/rattias/mscviewer, and it's manual: https://github.com/rattias/mscviewer/blob/master/doc/manual/mscviewer.pdf
What I'm looking for
At this stage I'm looking for mainly for feedback on whether a project in this early stage can or should be an Apache Incubation Project, and if so how to find a champion for it. If projects have to be more mature to enter the incubation stage I'll keep working on it and come back later.
Thanks, Roberto
From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
To: general@incubator.apache.org; Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: finding a Champion
HI Roberto & Welcome!
It might be a good thing to post some information about your project, what it does, if theres any existing source or community point links to it. Seeing something vibrant and functioning will definitely draw out a champion.
John
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:05 PM Roberto Attias <ro...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
Hello,this is my first email on this mailing list. I'm looking for a champion to incubate a project. I wrote to a couple of people from projects which have some relation, but neither replied, so I suspect I'm doing something wrong. At this stage I'm looking for feedback on whether there might be interest, and if so whether the project should be incubated right now, or at a later stage.
Any feedback on how to find somebody to discuss this with is welcome.
Thanks,
Roberto
Re: finding a Champion
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
HI Roberto & Welcome!
It might be a good thing to post some information about your project, what
it does, if theres any existing source or community point links to it.
Seeing something vibrant and functioning will definitely draw out a
champion.
John
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:05 PM Roberto Attias
<ro...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> Hello,this is my first email on this mailing list. I'm looking for a
> champion to incubate a project. I wrote to a couple of people from projects
> which have some relation, but neither replied, so I suspect I'm doing
> something wrong. At this stage I'm looking for feedback on whether there
> might be interest, and if so whether the project should be incubated right
> now, or at a later stage.
>
> Any feedback on how to find somebody to discuss this with is welcome.
> Thanks,
> Roberto
>
>