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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Howard Cary Morris <Ho...@hotmail.com> on 2018/09/04 00:55:23 UTC

RE: html code generated from Open Office

Sorry, I seem too have deleted a more recent version of this request.
Someone sent me name of module that gets invoked for a save as HTML request.
I also like to compare that with the module that does the print request and the module that does the print preview. What are all those module names.
Where can I download those modules from?

Thanks Howard

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________________________________
From: Howard Morris (aka Col Boogie) <Ho...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 10:36:20 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: html code generated from Open Office

The reason I joined Open Office was to enhance the html code generated from writer.

For now, I have constructed html code to upload an html file generated by Open Office and PHP code to tweak that code and download a better version. Everything I have doe so far is in the attached zzz.zip file. Explanations are in Readme.txt

I would have liked to have done this directly, but when I asked how to get there, I was directed to a site where I could download all the modules one by one, and there seemed to be hundreds of them and no indication what any of them contained with dubious directions how to put them together. This is not how I like to do things, so I went the other way for now.

I seem to have run across documentation that Open Office puts its files internally into a XML format. If I could extract the XML directly from the .odt file I could do everything from there. Assuming that is true, is there an updated copy of https://www.openoffice.org/xml/xml_specification.pdf ? I would hope that whoever is doing the documentation keeps that up to date. It will take me at least 20 hours to read that document, but at least I will retain most of it the first time.

Howard Morris

Re: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 1:27 AM Peter Kovacs <Pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> #include <com/sun/star/form/XForm.hpp> Okay this is special, since it
> refers to Javacode. But I do not know how to find the corresponding Java
> class file.
>

That isn't Java, that is a header file generated from the UNO IDL in
main/offapi/com/sun/star/form/XForm.idl

Re: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Peter Kovacs <Pe...@Apache.org>.
I took a quick glance at the html filter code in writer. Maybe another 
thing why the code is hard to read is that most comments are in german. 
We do translations on demand. If you are interested in a specific file 
then best practice is to write a comment in 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=39199.

Some examples how to read includes:

#include <vcl/svapp.hxx> Check the vcl module -> main/vcl/inc/vcl/svapp.hxx

#include <sfx2/docfile.hxx> check sfx2 module -> 
main/sfx2/inc/sfx2/docfile.hxx

#include <com/sun/star/form/XForm.hpp> Okay this is special, since it 
refers to Javacode. But I do not know how to find the corresponding Java 
class file.

Sadly we are still restoring OpenGrok, so no help there atm. I am 
searching through Eclipse but that takes ages. Maybe someone has an Idea?

HTH

Peter


On 10/1/18 10:07 PM, Howard Cary Morris wrote:
>
> Looked at code, tried to anyway. Way to many includes, which I don’t 
> know how to look up.
>
> I’d be better off with compiled code for modules with all includes 
> expanded.
>
> Included read me text of my server code to convert so far.
>
> While I am thinking of it, saw an earlier email about source of help.
>
> For online help, create with Writer and export as .xhtml file headers 
> and footers not exported.
>
> Tried dumping .odt file. I could not see text or fonts (must be 
> encoded). But other parts were not encoded (like meta data). Seemed to 
> waste a lot of space. Saw a lot of other stuff that made it seem like 
> our files are being fed into a another language (xml?)
>
> May consider combining .html and .xhtml files for better creation.
>
> Howard
>
> *From: *Howard Cary Morris <ma...@hotmail.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:03 AM
> *To: *dev@openoffice.apache.org <ma...@openoffice.apache.org>
> *Cc: *Apache OO <ma...@openoffice.apache.org>
> *Subject: *RE: html code generated from Open Office
>
> Only reason I want to see Print and print preview code is that I want 
> the HTML5 look identical to printed code. I will have additional 
> references to understand the code.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:59:53 PM
> To: Howard Cary Morris
> Cc: Apache OO
> Subject: Re: html code generated from Open Office
>
> Those modules are in our source code, see this link about getting it:
> https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
> Building it is quite involved :-/.
>
> What are you looking for in terms of printing?
>
> ODT files are documented but it's a lot of documentation:
> https://www.oasis-open.org/standards#opendocumentv1.2
>
> Damjan
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM Howard Cary Morris <
> howard_cary_morris@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > OK, where can I get a copy of that module for Writer?
> >
> > Would also like a copy of module that does print and one that does view
> > preprint.
> >
> > (Mainly for comparison purposes.)
> >
> > If there is documentation of the format of the .odt files, I might 
> be able
> > to write the module from scratch.
> >
> >
> >
> > Howard
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
> > *Sent: *Monday, September 3, 2018 11:20 PM
> > *To: *Apache OO <de...@openoffice.apache.org>;
> > Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com
> > *Subject: *Re: html code generated from Open Office
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >
> >
> > If it was me, I said:
> >
> > The code for the "Save As" -> "HTML document" feature seems to be in:
> >
> >
> >
> > main/sc/source/filter/html
> >
> > for Calc, and
> >
> > main/sw/source/filter/html
> >
> > for Writer.
> >
> > (Not sure if there are more?)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your contribution, and please let us know if you need any
> > further help.
> >
> > Damjan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:55 AM Howard Cary Morris <
> > Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I seem too have deleted a more recent version of this request.
> > Someone sent me name of module that gets invoked for a save as HTML
> > request.
> > I also like to compare that with the module that does the print request
> > and the module that does the print preview. What are all those 
> module names.
> > Where can I download those modules from?
> >
> > Thanks Howard
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
> > 
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=%2FM2%2FbybEdfduyk8j%2BkyvRNw26xajYIEYFY9RYC7h6As%3D&reserved=0>>
> > for Windows 10
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Howard Morris (aka Col Boogie) <Ho...@hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 10:36:20 PM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: html code generated from Open Office
> >
> > The reason I joined Open Office was to enhance the html code generated
> > from writer.
> >
> > For now, I have constructed html code to upload an html file 
> generated by
> > Open Office and PHP code to tweak that code and download a better 
> version.
> > Everything I have doe so far is in the attached zzz.zip file. 
> Explanations
> > are in Readme.txt
> >
> > I would have liked to have done this directly, but when I asked how 
> to get
> > there, I was directed to a site where I could download all the 
> modules one
> > by one, and there seemed to be hundreds of them and no indication 
> what any
> > of them contained with dubious directions how to put them together. 
> This is
> > not how I like to do things, so I went the other way for now.
> >
> > I seem to have run across documentation that Open Office puts its files
> > internally into a XML format. If I could extract the XML directly 
> from the
> > .odt file I could do everything from there. Assuming that is true, 
> is there
> > an updated copy of 
> https://www.openoffice.org/xml/xml_specification.pdf 
> <https://www.openoffice.org/xml/xml_specification.pdf>
> > 
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fxml%2Fxml_specification.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=On9HJQQ6lngCY9krxQCHwEa54cHETuTfiJOBwBnew%2BE%3D&reserved=0>
> > ? I would hope that whoever is doing the documentation keeps that up to
> > date. It will take me at least 20 hours to read that document, but 
> at least
> > I will retain most of it the first time.
> >
> > Howard Morris
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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RE: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Howard Cary Morris <ho...@hotmail.com>.
Looked at code, tried to anyway. Way to many includes, which I don’t know how to look up.
I’d be better off with compiled code for modules with all includes expanded.

Included read me text of my server code to convert so far.

While I am thinking of it, saw an earlier email about source of help.
For online help, create with Writer and export as .xhtml file headers and footers not exported.

Tried dumping .odt file. I could not see text or fonts (must be encoded). But other parts were not encoded (like meta data). Seemed to waste a lot of space. Saw a lot of other stuff that made it seem like our files are being fed into a another language (xml?)

May consider combining .html and .xhtml files for better creation.

Howard

From: Howard Cary Morris<ma...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:03 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org<ma...@openoffice.apache.org>
Cc: Apache OO<ma...@openoffice.apache.org>
Subject: RE: html code generated from Open Office

Only reason I want to see Print and print preview code is that I want the HTML5 look identical to printed code. I will have additional references to understand the code.



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________________________________
From: Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:59:53 PM
To: Howard Cary Morris
Cc: Apache OO
Subject: Re: html code generated from Open Office

Those modules are in our source code, see this link about getting it:
https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
Building it is quite involved :-/.

What are you looking for in terms of printing?

ODT files are documented but it's a lot of documentation:
https://www.oasis-open.org/standards#opendocumentv1.2

Damjan


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM Howard Cary Morris <
howard_cary_morris@hotmail.com> wrote:

> OK, where can I get a copy of that module for Writer?
>
> Would also like a copy of module that does print and one that does view
> preprint.
>
> (Mainly for comparison purposes.)
>
> If there is documentation of the format of the .odt files, I might be able
> to write the module from scratch.
>
>
>
> Howard
>
>
>
> *From: *Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, September 3, 2018 11:20 PM
> *To: *Apache OO <de...@openoffice.apache.org>;
> Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com
> *Subject: *Re: html code generated from Open Office
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> If it was me, I said:
>
> The code for the "Save As" -> "HTML document" feature seems to be in:
>
>
>
> main/sc/source/filter/html
>
> for Calc, and
>
> main/sw/source/filter/html
>
> for Writer.
>
> (Not sure if there are more?)
>
>
>
> Thank you for your contribution, and please let us know if you need any
> further help.
>
> Damjan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:55 AM Howard Cary Morris <
> Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I seem too have deleted a more recent version of this request.
> Someone sent me name of module that gets invoked for a save as HTML
> request.
> I also like to compare that with the module that does the print request
> and the module that does the print preview. What are all those module names.
> Where can I download those modules from?
>
> Thanks Howard
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=%2FM2%2FbybEdfduyk8j%2BkyvRNw26xajYIEYFY9RYC7h6As%3D&reserved=0>>
> for Windows 10
>
> ________________________________
> From: Howard Morris (aka Col Boogie) <Ho...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 10:36:20 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: html code generated from Open Office
>
> The reason I joined Open Office was to enhance the html code generated
> from writer.
>
> For now, I have constructed html code to upload an html file generated by
> Open Office and PHP code to tweak that code and download a better version.
> Everything I have doe so far is in the attached zzz.zip file. Explanations
> are in Readme.txt
>
> I would have liked to have done this directly, but when I asked how to get
> there, I was directed to a site where I could download all the modules one
> by one, and there seemed to be hundreds of them and no indication what any
> of them contained with dubious directions how to put them together. This is
> not how I like to do things, so I went the other way for now.
>
> I seem to have run across documentation that Open Office puts its files
> internally into a XML format. If I could extract the XML directly from the
> .odt file I could do everything from there. Assuming that is true, is there
> an updated copy of https://www.openoffice.org/xml/xml_specification.pdf
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fxml%2Fxml_specification.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=On9HJQQ6lngCY9krxQCHwEa54cHETuTfiJOBwBnew%2BE%3D&reserved=0>
> ? I would hope that whoever is doing the documentation keeps that up to
> date. It will take me at least 20 hours to read that document, but at least
> I will retain most of it the first time.
>
> Howard Morris
>
>
>


RE: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Howard Cary Morris <ho...@hotmail.com>.
I created a new project in Source Forge, https://sourceforge.net/projects/open-office-html-4-to-html5/. It contains my latest tested conversion. If you cannot read the files, I’ll add more files to make it easier. Currently my latest in testing version is in http://www.americasfreedompressalliance.us/Howard/Open/ .

To see the source code there use http://www.americasfreedompressalliance.us/Howard/

and on bottom of page may enter

                Open/index.html

                Open/Gen2.php

                Open/ReadMe.txt

After looking at text, may use browser ‘Save Page as’ to get a copy of source.

I could put a shorter version of those programs in Source Forge project.



I have looked at code generated by both filters. The .html filter tries to add the page header and page footer to the generated code. Does a bad job of it, I have cleaned it up some. The .xhtml  filter doesn’t even try. The .xhtml code is true to the page width in Open Office document. The .html filter doesn’t even try. One reason I am trying to make it as print compatible as possible is to make an alternative to PDF. The output is much smaller. In fact, if you compress the output and add the image files, the result is much smaller than the .odt file. Also, some users may want the output to look like a (typed) document.



The ReadMe file tells more of what has been done than what needs to be done.

If I ever get to the table of contents, it will be really amazing.



I was able to get to the source of the .html filter. However with so many includes it was impossible to wade through. As asked before, compiled versions with all the includes expanded would help a lot. There seems to be 4 programs in the filter.



Howard





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________________________________
From: Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 3:24:52 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: html code generated from Open Office

Howard Cary Morris wrote:
> I want the HTML5 look identical to printed code. I will have additional references to understand the code.

I see many mixed ideas in this conversations. Let me give you some
pointers, and sorry for being late at this.

Start here:
https://archive.fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/improving_the_xhtml_export_filter/
The slides you find there will give you all pointers (source code
modules, issues, patches, history) for the XHTML export filter and the
idea to repurpose it as an HTML5 export filter. The presentation is old
(and looks very old indeed!) but it's still accurate: we didn't change
that export in recent years.

As someone already told you, we have two filters, the HTML one and the
XHTML one. They are in different code modules.

The work has to be done in the source code, so whatever you have done in
PHP and HTML (?) will have to be rewritten. But I (and many others) will
be able to read your current work, assuming you are post-processing the
HTML or XHTML output, and we can give feedback if you make it available
somewhere.

There is a fundamental error in the idea of print fidelity: HTML, and
especially HTML5, are not designed with print fidelity in mind. I mean,
the idea to have the printed HTML5 identical to the OpenOffice (say) PDF
export is unfeasible since HTML rendering is done by the user-agent
(browser) and this is by design subject to what the browser decides to
do. If you constrain the browser too much by enforcing specific CSS, all
advantages of an HTML export will be gone. So the idea should be to have
a proper HTML5 export as a start, ignoring the printed output for the
time being. Priority should be on getting the semantic level (tags)
right, and some basic CSS transformations to get the styles right. Our
export is currently using bad HTML style, but the XHTML one is a bit
better than the HTML one.

For print fidelity (but this comes much later)
https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-page/ would be the place to start. It is
wonderful, but support from tools is still quite incomplete. And anyway
implementation will need the ground work above to be completed beforehand.

The way is long, but we are here to help, even though we are all
volunteers and are often less responsive than we would like to.

The first step is building OpenOffice on your system. There is no other
way, unfortunately. Does
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO make
any sense to you? If you are lost, we may be able to help if you
describe your system configuration. Linux is probably the easiest
platform for building.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Howard Cary Morris wrote:
> I want the HTML5 look identical to printed code. I will have additional references to understand the code.

I see many mixed ideas in this conversations. Let me give you some 
pointers, and sorry for being late at this.

Start here:
https://archive.fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/improving_the_xhtml_export_filter/
The slides you find there will give you all pointers (source code 
modules, issues, patches, history) for the XHTML export filter and the 
idea to repurpose it as an HTML5 export filter. The presentation is old 
(and looks very old indeed!) but it's still accurate: we didn't change 
that export in recent years.

As someone already told you, we have two filters, the HTML one and the 
XHTML one. They are in different code modules.

The work has to be done in the source code, so whatever you have done in 
PHP and HTML (?) will have to be rewritten. But I (and many others) will 
be able to read your current work, assuming you are post-processing the 
HTML or XHTML output, and we can give feedback if you make it available 
somewhere.

There is a fundamental error in the idea of print fidelity: HTML, and 
especially HTML5, are not designed with print fidelity in mind. I mean, 
the idea to have the printed HTML5 identical to the OpenOffice (say) PDF 
export is unfeasible since HTML rendering is done by the user-agent 
(browser) and this is by design subject to what the browser decides to 
do. If you constrain the browser too much by enforcing specific CSS, all 
advantages of an HTML export will be gone. So the idea should be to have 
a proper HTML5 export as a start, ignoring the printed output for the 
time being. Priority should be on getting the semantic level (tags) 
right, and some basic CSS transformations to get the styles right. Our 
export is currently using bad HTML style, but the XHTML one is a bit 
better than the HTML one.

For print fidelity (but this comes much later) 
https://www.w3.org/TR/css3-page/ would be the place to start. It is 
wonderful, but support from tools is still quite incomplete. And anyway 
implementation will need the ground work above to be completed beforehand.

The way is long, but we are here to help, even though we are all 
volunteers and are often less responsive than we would like to.

The first step is building OpenOffice on your system. There is no other 
way, unfortunately. Does 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO make 
any sense to you? If you are lost, we may be able to help if you 
describe your system configuration. Linux is probably the easiest 
platform for building.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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RE: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Howard Cary Morris <ho...@hotmail.com>.
Only reason I want to see Print and print preview code is that I want the HTML5 look identical to printed code. I will have additional references to understand the code.



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________________________________
From: Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:59:53 PM
To: Howard Cary Morris
Cc: Apache OO
Subject: Re: html code generated from Open Office

Those modules are in our source code, see this link about getting it:
https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
Building it is quite involved :-/.

What are you looking for in terms of printing?

ODT files are documented but it's a lot of documentation:
https://www.oasis-open.org/standards#opendocumentv1.2

Damjan


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM Howard Cary Morris <
howard_cary_morris@hotmail.com> wrote:

> OK, where can I get a copy of that module for Writer?
>
> Would also like a copy of module that does print and one that does view
> preprint.
>
> (Mainly for comparison purposes.)
>
> If there is documentation of the format of the .odt files, I might be able
> to write the module from scratch.
>
>
>
> Howard
>
>
>
> *From: *Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, September 3, 2018 11:20 PM
> *To: *Apache OO <de...@openoffice.apache.org>;
> Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com
> *Subject: *Re: html code generated from Open Office
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> If it was me, I said:
>
> The code for the "Save As" -> "HTML document" feature seems to be in:
>
>
>
> main/sc/source/filter/html
>
> for Calc, and
>
> main/sw/source/filter/html
>
> for Writer.
>
> (Not sure if there are more?)
>
>
>
> Thank you for your contribution, and please let us know if you need any
> further help.
>
> Damjan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:55 AM Howard Cary Morris <
> Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I seem too have deleted a more recent version of this request.
> Someone sent me name of module that gets invoked for a save as HTML
> request.
> I also like to compare that with the module that does the print request
> and the module that does the print preview. What are all those module names.
> Where can I download those modules from?
>
> Thanks Howard
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=%2FM2%2FbybEdfduyk8j%2BkyvRNw26xajYIEYFY9RYC7h6As%3D&reserved=0>>
> for Windows 10
>
> ________________________________
> From: Howard Morris (aka Col Boogie) <Ho...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 10:36:20 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: html code generated from Open Office
>
> The reason I joined Open Office was to enhance the html code generated
> from writer.
>
> For now, I have constructed html code to upload an html file generated by
> Open Office and PHP code to tweak that code and download a better version.
> Everything I have doe so far is in the attached zzz.zip file. Explanations
> are in Readme.txt
>
> I would have liked to have done this directly, but when I asked how to get
> there, I was directed to a site where I could download all the modules one
> by one, and there seemed to be hundreds of them and no indication what any
> of them contained with dubious directions how to put them together. This is
> not how I like to do things, so I went the other way for now.
>
> I seem to have run across documentation that Open Office puts its files
> internally into a XML format. If I could extract the XML directly from the
> .odt file I could do everything from there. Assuming that is true, is there
> an updated copy of https://www.openoffice.org/xml/xml_specification.pdf
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fxml%2Fxml_specification.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=On9HJQQ6lngCY9krxQCHwEa54cHETuTfiJOBwBnew%2BE%3D&reserved=0>
> ? I would hope that whoever is doing the documentation keeps that up to
> date. It will take me at least 20 hours to read that document, but at least
> I will retain most of it the first time.
>
> Howard Morris
>
>
>

Re: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>.
Those modules are in our source code, see this link about getting it:
https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
Building it is quite involved :-/.

What are you looking for in terms of printing?

ODT files are documented but it's a lot of documentation:
https://www.oasis-open.org/standards#opendocumentv1.2

Damjan


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM Howard Cary Morris <
howard_cary_morris@hotmail.com> wrote:

> OK, where can I get a copy of that module for Writer?
>
> Would also like a copy of module that does print and one that does view
> preprint.
>
> (Mainly for comparison purposes.)
>
> If there is documentation of the format of the .odt files, I might be able
> to write the module from scratch.
>
>
>
> Howard
>
>
>
> *From: *Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, September 3, 2018 11:20 PM
> *To: *Apache OO <de...@openoffice.apache.org>;
> Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com
> *Subject: *Re: html code generated from Open Office
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> If it was me, I said:
>
> The code for the "Save As" -> "HTML document" feature seems to be in:
>
>
>
> main/sc/source/filter/html
>
> for Calc, and
>
> main/sw/source/filter/html
>
> for Writer.
>
> (Not sure if there are more?)
>
>
>
> Thank you for your contribution, and please let us know if you need any
> further help.
>
> Damjan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:55 AM Howard Cary Morris <
> Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I seem too have deleted a more recent version of this request.
> Someone sent me name of module that gets invoked for a save as HTML
> request.
> I also like to compare that with the module that does the print request
> and the module that does the print preview. What are all those module names.
> Where can I download those modules from?
>
> Thanks Howard
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=%2FM2%2FbybEdfduyk8j%2BkyvRNw26xajYIEYFY9RYC7h6As%3D&reserved=0>>
> for Windows 10
>
> ________________________________
> From: Howard Morris (aka Col Boogie) <Ho...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 10:36:20 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: html code generated from Open Office
>
> The reason I joined Open Office was to enhance the html code generated
> from writer.
>
> For now, I have constructed html code to upload an html file generated by
> Open Office and PHP code to tweak that code and download a better version.
> Everything I have doe so far is in the attached zzz.zip file. Explanations
> are in Readme.txt
>
> I would have liked to have done this directly, but when I asked how to get
> there, I was directed to a site where I could download all the modules one
> by one, and there seemed to be hundreds of them and no indication what any
> of them contained with dubious directions how to put them together. This is
> not how I like to do things, so I went the other way for now.
>
> I seem to have run across documentation that Open Office puts its files
> internally into a XML format. If I could extract the XML directly from the
> .odt file I could do everything from there. Assuming that is true, is there
> an updated copy of https://www.openoffice.org/xml/xml_specification.pdf
> <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fxml%2Fxml_specification.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=On9HJQQ6lngCY9krxQCHwEa54cHETuTfiJOBwBnew%2BE%3D&reserved=0>
> ? I would hope that whoever is doing the documentation keeps that up to
> date. It will take me at least 20 hours to read that document, but at least
> I will retain most of it the first time.
>
> Howard Morris
>
>
>

RE: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Howard Cary Morris <ho...@hotmail.com>.
OK, where can I get a copy of that module for Writer?
Would also like a copy of module that does print and one that does view preprint.
(Mainly for comparison purposes.)
If there is documentation of the format of the .odt files, I might be able to write the module from scratch.

Howard

From: Damjan Jovanovic<ma...@apache.org>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 11:20 PM
To: Apache OO<ma...@openoffice.apache.org>; Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com<ma...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: html code generated from Open Office

Hi

If it was me, I said:
The code for the "Save As" -> "HTML document" feature seems to be in:

main/sc/source/filter/html
for Calc, and
main/sw/source/filter/html
for Writer.
(Not sure if there are more?)

Thank you for your contribution, and please let us know if you need any further help.
Damjan

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:55 AM Howard Cary Morris <Ho...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry, I seem too have deleted a more recent version of this request.
Someone sent me name of module that gets invoked for a save as HTML request.
I also like to compare that with the module that does the print request and the module that does the print preview. What are all those module names.
Where can I download those modules from?

Thanks Howard

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=%2FM2%2FbybEdfduyk8j%2BkyvRNw26xajYIEYFY9RYC7h6As%3D&reserved=0>> for Windows 10

________________________________
From: Howard Morris (aka Col Boogie) <Ho...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 10:36:20 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org<ma...@openoffice.apache.org>
Subject: html code generated from Open Office

The reason I joined Open Office was to enhance the html code generated from writer.

For now, I have constructed html code to upload an html file generated by Open Office and PHP code to tweak that code and download a better version. Everything I have doe so far is in the attached zzz.zip file. Explanations are in Readme.txt

I would have liked to have done this directly, but when I asked how to get there, I was directed to a site where I could download all the modules one by one, and there seemed to be hundreds of them and no indication what any of them contained with dubious directions how to put them together. This is not how I like to do things, so I went the other way for now.

I seem to have run across documentation that Open Office puts its files internally into a XML format. If I could extract the XML directly from the .odt file I could do everything from there. Assuming that is true, is there an updated copy of https://www.openoffice.org/xml/xml_specification.pdf<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fxml%2Fxml_specification.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C482eb29f850342906b7608d6121db243%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716316081442734&sdata=On9HJQQ6lngCY9krxQCHwEa54cHETuTfiJOBwBnew%2BE%3D&reserved=0> ? I would hope that whoever is doing the documentation keeps that up to date. It will take me at least 20 hours to read that document, but at least I will retain most of it the first time.

Howard Morris


Re: html code generated from Open Office

Posted by Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>.
Hi

If it was me, I said:
The code for the "Save As" -> "HTML document" feature seems to be in:

main/sc/source/filter/html
for Calc, and
main/sw/source/filter/html
for Writer.
(Not sure if there are more?)

Thank you for your contribution, and please let us know if you need any
further help.
Damjan

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:55 AM Howard Cary Morris <
Howard_Cary_Morris@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I seem too have deleted a more recent version of this request.
> Someone sent me name of module that gets invoked for a save as HTML
> request.
> I also like to compare that with the module that does the print request
> and the module that does the print preview. What are all those module names.
> Where can I download those modules from?
>
> Thanks Howard
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> ________________________________
> From: Howard Morris (aka Col Boogie) <Ho...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 10:36:20 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: html code generated from Open Office
>
> The reason I joined Open Office was to enhance the html code generated
> from writer.
>
> For now, I have constructed html code to upload an html file generated by
> Open Office and PHP code to tweak that code and download a better version.
> Everything I have doe so far is in the attached zzz.zip file. Explanations
> are in Readme.txt
>
> I would have liked to have done this directly, but when I asked how to get
> there, I was directed to a site where I could download all the modules one
> by one, and there seemed to be hundreds of them and no indication what any
> of them contained with dubious directions how to put them together. This is
> not how I like to do things, so I went the other way for now.
>
> I seem to have run across documentation that Open Office puts its files
> internally into a XML format. If I could extract the XML directly from the
> .odt file I could do everything from there. Assuming that is true, is there
> an updated copy of https://www.openoffice.org/xml/xml_specification.pdf ?
> I would hope that whoever is doing the documentation keeps that up to date.
> It will take me at least 20 hours to read that document, but at least I
> will retain most of it the first time.
>
> Howard Morris
>