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ApacheBookStore.com
Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
--Rich
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 10/06/2014 02:55 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?...
> I suppose you noticed that "Added by" and "last edited by" on the
> front page point to familiar names?
I did, but the signup page has a broken CAPTCHA style security thingy,
and so I can't register to make edits. So I was looking for the person
who can fix it for me. I didn't assume that all of the editors were the
folks in charge. Perhaps they are. I'll ask them.
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?...
I suppose you noticed that "Added by" and "last edited by" on the
front page point to familiar names?
-Bertrand
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by "jleroux@apache.org" <jl...@apache.org>.
And if not, at least show OFBiz books, if the ApacheBookStore gets updated
We have some in the learning section at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books#OFBizRelatedBooks-Learning
As mentioned there, those sold by /Packt pay a percentage of the sales back to the ASF/ (I checked that some years ago)
I tried to update the ApacheBookStore but I have no access with my Confluence credential
Jacques
Le 10/10/2014 12:07, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> Rich,
>
> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
> replacement for the wiki page?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>
>>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>>
>>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>>
>>>> On the front page:
>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>>
>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>>
>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>>
>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>>
>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
>> that link to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>
>>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by "jleroux@apache.org" <jl...@apache.org>.
And if not, at least show OFBiz books, if the ApacheBookStore gets updated
We have some in the learning section at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Related+Books#OFBizRelatedBooks-Learning
As mentioned there, those sold by /Packt pay a percentage of the sales back to the ASF/ (I checked that some years ago)
I tried to update the ApacheBookStore but I have no access with my Confluence credential
Jacques
Le 10/10/2014 12:07, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> Rich,
>
> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
> replacement for the wiki page?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>
>>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>>
>>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>>
>>>> On the front page:
>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>>
>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>>
>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>>
>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>>
>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
>> that link to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>
>>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Roger Whitcomb <Ro...@rbwhitcomb.com>.
Here is a blog about non-profits and "earned" income. It is certainly possible (and common). The two big things to look out for are:
- whether the goods sold are substantially related to the non-profit's purpose
- and how much income is derived relative to other activities
http://www.nonprofitlawblog.com/the-profitable-side-of-nonprofits-part-i-earned-income/
I know others who are more knowledgable can also comment.
~Roger Whitcomb
Apache Pivot PMC
> On Oct 13, 2014, at 8:27 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rich,
>>
>> How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can
>> handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
>>
>> With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
>> promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment
>> (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop
>> shipments.
> Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with our
> non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying
> taxes.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rich,
>>>>
>>>> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
>>>> replacement for the wiki page?
>>>
>>> That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits
>>> to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory?
>>>
>>> Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I
>>> don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to
>> try
>>> to do, if someone wanted to take that project.
>>>
>>> --Rich
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>
>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the front page:
>>>>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>>>>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>>>>>> ->
>> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>>>>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
>>>>> that link to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>>>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>> --
>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 10/14/2014 10:55 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> With everything you have, of course, to consider whether the joy is worth
> the price.
Presumably that's up to the people that want to run the store! :-)
Mostly, I just wanted to be able to update the grossly outdated content
on that site, when I started this thread. Alas, I'm still not getting a
response from anyone that can actually do this.
--Rich
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/13/2014 10:02 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>
>>> True, whether or not to pursue the exploitation of an e-commerce activity
>>> by The ASF is something that needs to analysed thoroughly regarding the
>>> fiscal and social implications.
>>>
>>> But, before such endeavour is undertaken the ASF could use the
>>> capabilities
>>> of OFBiz to showcase the books related to the works of the Apache Projects
>>> (without opening it up to take in orders). This could assist (in a unified
>>> way) in branding the products of the Apache projects. And this can be done
>>> by (delegated to) any interested contributor within any project. And
>>> thereby achieving that the list of books is more up to date than it is
>>> today.
>>>
>> What we have encouraged in the past is for people/companies to set up
>> their own stores and welcomed any donations that they wished to make back
>> to the Foundation from profits. We've never really entertained the notion
>> of an official store.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>
>>
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
With everything you have, of course, to consider whether the joy is worth
the price.
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/13/2014 10:02 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>
>> True, whether or not to pursue the exploitation of an e-commerce activity
>> by The ASF is something that needs to analysed thoroughly regarding the
>> fiscal and social implications.
>>
>> But, before such endeavour is undertaken the ASF could use the
>> capabilities
>> of OFBiz to showcase the books related to the works of the Apache Projects
>> (without opening it up to take in orders). This could assist (in a unified
>> way) in branding the products of the Apache projects. And this can be done
>> by (delegated to) any interested contributor within any project. And
>> thereby achieving that the list of books is more up to date than it is
>> today.
>>
>
> What we have encouraged in the past is for people/companies to set up
> their own stores and welcomed any donations that they wished to make back
> to the Foundation from profits. We've never really entertained the notion
> of an official store.
>
>
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 10/13/2014 10:02 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> True, whether or not to pursue the exploitation of an e-commerce activity
> by The ASF is something that needs to analysed thoroughly regarding the
> fiscal and social implications.
>
> But, before such endeavour is undertaken the ASF could use the capabilities
> of OFBiz to showcase the books related to the works of the Apache Projects
> (without opening it up to take in orders). This could assist (in a unified
> way) in branding the products of the Apache projects. And this can be done
> by (delegated to) any interested contributor within any project. And
> thereby achieving that the list of books is more up to date than it is
> today.
What we have encouraged in the past is for people/companies to set up
their own stores and welcomed any donations that they wished to make
back to the Foundation from profits. We've never really entertained the
notion of an official store.
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
True, whether or not to pursue the exploitation of an e-commerce activity
by The ASF is something that needs to analysed thoroughly regarding the
fiscal and social implications.
But, before such endeavour is undertaken the ASF could use the capabilities
of OFBiz to showcase the books related to the works of the Apache Projects
(without opening it up to take in orders). This could assist (in a unified
way) in branding the products of the Apache projects. And this can be done
by (delegated to) any interested contributor within any project. And
thereby achieving that the list of books is more up to date than it is
today.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they
> can
> > > handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
> > >
> > > With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
> > > promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the
> payment
> > > (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the
> > drop
> > > shipments.
> > >
> > Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with
> our
> > non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying
> > taxes.
> >
>
>
> The ASF will absolutely have to pay taxes and the rules will vary for every
> city in the US (not to mention every other jurisdiction in the world).
>
> Expecting that Apache has the resources to actually run a full-scale
> e-commerce business with reasonable tax and PCI compliance is absolutely
> nuts (in my oh so very humble opinion based on having built 2 substantial
> consumer businesses and been very involved in 2 major anti-fraud
> companies).
>
> Volunteer staffing for any significant e-commerce effort is simply not
> sufficient.
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
True, whether or not to pursue the exploitation of an e-commerce activity
by The ASF is something that needs to analysed thoroughly regarding the
fiscal and social implications.
But, before such endeavour is undertaken the ASF could use the capabilities
of OFBiz to showcase the books related to the works of the Apache Projects
(without opening it up to take in orders). This could assist (in a unified
way) in branding the products of the Apache projects. And this can be done
by (delegated to) any interested contributor within any project. And
thereby achieving that the list of books is more up to date than it is
today.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Rich,
> > >
> > > How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they
> can
> > > handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
> > >
> > > With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
> > > promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the
> payment
> > > (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the
> > drop
> > > shipments.
> > >
> > Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with
> our
> > non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying
> > taxes.
> >
>
>
> The ASF will absolutely have to pay taxes and the rules will vary for every
> city in the US (not to mention every other jurisdiction in the world).
>
> Expecting that Apache has the resources to actually run a full-scale
> e-commerce business with reasonable tax and PCI compliance is absolutely
> nuts (in my oh so very humble opinion based on having built 2 substantial
> consumer businesses and been very involved in 2 major anti-fraud
> companies).
>
> Volunteer staffing for any significant e-commerce effort is simply not
> sufficient.
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can
> > handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
> >
> > With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
> > promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment
> > (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the
> drop
> > shipments.
> >
> Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with our
> non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying
> taxes.
>
The ASF will absolutely have to pay taxes and the rules will vary for every
city in the US (not to mention every other jurisdiction in the world).
Expecting that Apache has the resources to actually run a full-scale
e-commerce business with reasonable tax and PCI compliance is absolutely
nuts (in my oh so very humble opinion based on having built 2 substantial
consumer businesses and been very involved in 2 major anti-fraud companies).
Volunteer staffing for any significant e-commerce effort is simply not
sufficient.
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can
> > handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
> >
> > With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
> > promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment
> > (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the
> drop
> > shipments.
> >
> Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with our
> non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying
> taxes.
>
The ASF will absolutely have to pay taxes and the rules will vary for every
city in the US (not to mention every other jurisdiction in the world).
Expecting that Apache has the resources to actually run a full-scale
e-commerce business with reasonable tax and PCI compliance is absolutely
nuts (in my oh so very humble opinion based on having built 2 substantial
consumer businesses and been very involved in 2 major anti-fraud companies).
Volunteer staffing for any significant e-commerce effort is simply not
sufficient.
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Roger Whitcomb <Ro...@rbwhitcomb.com>.
Here is a blog about non-profits and "earned" income. It is certainly possible (and common). The two big things to look out for are:
- whether the goods sold are substantially related to the non-profit's purpose
- and how much income is derived relative to other activities
http://www.nonprofitlawblog.com/the-profitable-side-of-nonprofits-part-i-earned-income/
I know others who are more knowledgable can also comment.
~Roger Whitcomb
Apache Pivot PMC
> On Oct 13, 2014, at 8:27 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rich,
>>
>> How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can
>> handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
>>
>> With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
>> promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment
>> (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop
>> shipments.
> Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with our
> non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying
> taxes.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rich,
>>>>
>>>> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
>>>> replacement for the wiki page?
>>>
>>> That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits
>>> to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory?
>>>
>>> Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I
>>> don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to
>> try
>>> to do, if someone wanted to take that project.
>>>
>>> --Rich
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>
>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the front page:
>>>>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>>>>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>>>>>> ->
>> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>>>>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
>>>>> that link to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>>>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>> --
>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rich,
>
> How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can
> handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
>
> With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
> promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment
> (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop
> shipments.
>
Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with our
non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying
taxes.
rgds
jan I.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> >
> >> Rich,
> >>
> >> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
> >> replacement for the wiki page?
> >>
> >
> > That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits
> > to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory?
> >
> > Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I
> > don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to
> try
> > to do, if someone wanted to take that project.
> >
> > --Rich
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >>
> >> Pierre Smits
> >>
> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> >> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> >> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> >> Services and Retail & Trade
> >> http://www.orrtiz.com
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On the front page:
> >>>>>
> >>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
> >>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
> >>>> ->
> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
> >>>>
> >>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
> >>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
> >>> that link to it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> >>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > --
> > Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >
> >
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 13 October 2014 16:30, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rich,
>
> How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can
> handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
>
> With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
> promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment
> (credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop
> shipments.
>
Technically I am sure OFBiz can handle it, but how does this work with our
non-profit status, I am not sure we can freely sell goods without paying
taxes.
rgds
jan I.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> >
> >> Rich,
> >>
> >> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
> >> replacement for the wiki page?
> >>
> >
> > That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits
> > to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory?
> >
> > Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I
> > don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to
> try
> > to do, if someone wanted to take that project.
> >
> > --Rich
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >>
> >> Pierre Smits
> >>
> >> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> >> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> >> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> >> Services and Retail & Trade
> >> http://www.orrtiz.com
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On the front page:
> >>>>>
> >>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
> >>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
> >>>> ->
> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
> >>>>
> >>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
> >>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
> >>> that link to it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> >>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > --
> > Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >
> >
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Rich,
How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can
handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment
(credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop
shipments.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>
>> Rich,
>>
>> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
>> replacement for the wiki page?
>>
>
> That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits
> to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory?
>
> Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I
> don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to try
> to do, if someone wanted to take that project.
>
> --Rich
>
>
>
> Regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>>
>>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>>>
>>>>> On the front page:
>>>>>
>>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>>>
>>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>>>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>>>
>>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>>>
>>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
>>> that link to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>>
>>>
>>>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Rich,
How about drop shipments directly from the publishing party, if they can
handle that? That way no inventory would be required.
With OFBiz The ASF can take the ordersin (not only for books, but also
promotion stuff like t-shirts, banners, buttons, etc), accept the payment
(credit card, etc) and send the supply order to the party handling the drop
shipments.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>
>> Rich,
>>
>> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
>> replacement for the wiki page?
>>
>
> That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits
> to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory?
>
> Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I
> don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to try
> to do, if someone wanted to take that project.
>
> --Rich
>
>
>
> Regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>>
>>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>>>
>>>>> On the front page:
>>>>>
>>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>>>
>>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>>>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>>>
>>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>>>
>>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
>>> that link to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>>
>>>
>>>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 10/10/2014 12:07 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
> replacement for the wiki page?
That could be cool - you mean, selling books directly and giving profits
to the ASF? How would we handle shipping/inventory?
Anyways, I haven't heard back from anyone that handles that site, and I
don't have the cycles to pursue it, but it sounds like a good thing to
try to do, if someone wanted to take that project.
--Rich
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>
>>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>>
>>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>>
>>>> On the front page:
>>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>>
>>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>>
>>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>>
>> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>>
>> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
>> that link to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>>
>>
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Rich,
Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
replacement for the wiki page?
Regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>
>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>
>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>
>>> On the front page:
>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>
>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>
>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>
>
> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>
> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
> that link to it.
>
>
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Rich,
Why not consider the eCommerce solution of the Apache OFBiz project as a
replacement for the wiki page?
Regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>
>> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>>
>>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>>
>>> On the front page:
>> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
>> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>>
>> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
>> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>>
>> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
>> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
>>
>
> Thanks. I totally missed those.
>
> Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
> that link to it.
>
>
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 10/06/2014 04:21 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> 2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
>> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>>
> On the front page:
> 1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
> descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
>
> 2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
> -> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
>
> An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
> unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
Thanks. I totally missed those.
Yes, it's completely unmaintained, and we have several project websites
that link to it.
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheBookStore.com
Posted by Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com>.
2014-10-06 17:13 GMT+04:00 Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>:
> Anybody know who manages/owns/whatever ApacheBookStore.com?
>
On the front page:
1. "ASF Committers may add new items to our inventory or edit the item
descriptions." -> contact e-mail address
2. Last line on the front page: "Contact Administrators"
-> http://www.apachebookstore.com/confluence/oss/administrators.action
An interesting effort, but the site looks somewhat outdated and
unmaintained. The latest listed books are from year 2008.
Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko