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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> on 2004/07/31 03:29:29 UTC
[proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
The private branches proposal didn't fly, so let's try again.
Same thing as the previous proposal but with the "whiteboard" name,
"playground" kinda sucks and "research" would scare people way because
it feels too serious.
comments?
--
Stefano.
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 31 Jul 2004, at 08:49, Ugo Cei wrote:
> Il giorno 31/lug/04, alle 03:29, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
>
>> Same thing as the previous proposal but with the "whiteboard" name,
>> "playground" kinda sucks and "research" would scare people way
>> because it feels too serious.
>
> "Whiteboard" sounds fine. We already have a "scratchpad" in the trunk,
> however. What would be the difference between scratchpad and
> whiteboard?
Scratchpad is a block, at the end of the day! :-)
Pier
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com>.
I would suggest that one major difference should be that "whiteboard" lives
as a branch in CVS only; it should not be part of a Cocoon release.
Scratchpad indicates (in my view) something that is a little further along
that users should try out.
Ralph
At 7/31/2004 12:49 AM, Ugo Cei wrote:
>Il giorno 31/lug/04, alle 03:29, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
>
>>Same thing as the previous proposal but with the "whiteboard" name,
>>"playground" kinda sucks and "research" would scare people way because it
>>feels too serious.
>
>"Whiteboard" sounds fine. We already have a "scratchpad" in the trunk,
>however. What would be the difference between scratchpad and whiteboard?
>
>--
>Ugo Cei - http://beblogging.com/
>
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> In order to summarize:
>
> - whiteboard
> The whiteboard can contain revelutionary stuff like Butterfly or other
> one-man-shows. They needn't be based on the current codebase - they
> only have to have some relationship to Cocoon.
> Evolving from whiteboard needs a vote.
>
> - branches
> Branches are based either on previous minor releases (e.g. 2.1.x)
> or they are future, evolutionary developments based on the codebase
> that is available at the time of branching. Branches are supported
> by the community and fixes go into all branches that activly developed.
>
> - scratchpad (block)
> Small contributions that don't require a new branch and you want
> to indicate that this is not supported by the community at the
> time of committing it. Examples are new components.
> They still need a vote to be moved into a stable block or into
> Cocoon core.
Sounds good, with the addition that scratchpad is a kind of incubator
for unstable features that will go into the core rather than in their
own block (either because of their small size or because of their
core-related nature).
Sylvain
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Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>.
On 01.08.2004 15:20, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> In order to summarize:
>
> - whiteboard
> ...
>
> - branches
> ...
>
> - scratchpad (block)
> ...
>
> WDOT?
+1
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>.
On 1 Aug 2004, at 14:20, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> In order to summarize:
>
> - whiteboard
> The whiteboard can contain revelutionary stuff like Butterfly or
> other
> one-man-shows. They needn't be based on the current codebase - they
> only have to have some relationship to Cocoon.
> Evolving from whiteboard needs a vote.
+1
expanding: one man shows, proposals, stuff not tied to cocoon directly
but we might want to track down their development anyhow, anything
which is not cocoon-prime and that doesn't fit in a block, for which
the scratchpad block is used...
> - branches
> Branches are based either on previous minor releases (e.g. 2.1.x)
> or they are future, evolutionary developments based on the codebase
> that is available at the time of branching. Branches are supported
> by the community and fixes go into all branches that activly
> developed.
+1
> - scratchpad (block)
> Small contributions that don't require a new branch and you want
> to indicate that this is not supported by the community at the
> time of committing it. Examples are new components.
> They still need a vote to be moved into a stable block or into
> Cocoon core.
+1
well said that we need a vote to move somehting out of scratchpad into
a stable block, as from an unstable to a stable one.
Does this make +3 overall from me? :-P
Pier
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Ugo Cei <ug...@apache.org>.
Il giorno 01/ago/04, alle 15:20, Reinhard Poetz ha scritto:
> In order to summarize:
>
> - whiteboard
> The whiteboard can contain revelutionary stuff like Butterfly or
> other
> one-man-shows. They needn't be based on the current codebase - they
> only have to have some relationship to Cocoon.
> Evolving from whiteboard needs a vote.
>
> - branches
> Branches are based either on previous minor releases (e.g. 2.1.x)
> or they are future, evolutionary developments based on the codebase
> that is available at the time of branching. Branches are supported
> by the community and fixes go into all branches that activly
> developed.
>
> - scratchpad (block)
> Small contributions that don't require a new branch and you want
> to indicate that this is not supported by the community at the
> time of committing it. Examples are new components.
> They still need a vote to be moved into a stable block or into
> Cocoon core.
+1
--
Ugo Cei - http://beblogging.com/
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Reinhard Poetz dijo:
> Ugo Cei wrote:
>
>> Il giorno 31/lug/04, alle 03:29, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
>>
>>> Same thing as the previous proposal but with the "whiteboard" name,
>>> "playground" kinda sucks and "research" would scare people way
>>> because it feels too serious.
>>
>>
>> "Whiteboard" sounds fine. We already have a "scratchpad" in the trunk,
>> however. What would be the difference between scratchpad and whiteboard?
>
>
> In order to summarize:
>
> - whiteboard
> The whiteboard can contain revelutionary stuff like Butterfly or other
> one-man-shows. They needn't be based on the current codebase - they
> only have to have some relationship to Cocoon.
> Evolving from whiteboard needs a vote.
>
> - branches
> Branches are based either on previous minor releases (e.g. 2.1.x)
> or they are future, evolutionary developments based on the codebase
> that is available at the time of branching. Branches are supported
> by the community and fixes go into all branches that activly developed.
>
> - scratchpad (block)
> Small contributions that don't require a new branch and you want
> to indicate that this is not supported by the community at the
> time of committing it. Examples are new components.
> They still need a vote to be moved into a stable block or into
> Cocoon core.
>
>
> WDOT?
+1
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Ugo Cei wrote:
> Il giorno 31/lug/04, alle 03:29, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
>
>> Same thing as the previous proposal but with the "whiteboard" name,
>> "playground" kinda sucks and "research" would scare people way
>> because it feels too serious.
>
>
> "Whiteboard" sounds fine. We already have a "scratchpad" in the trunk,
> however. What would be the difference between scratchpad and whiteboard?
In order to summarize:
- whiteboard
The whiteboard can contain revelutionary stuff like Butterfly or other
one-man-shows. They needn't be based on the current codebase - they
only have to have some relationship to Cocoon.
Evolving from whiteboard needs a vote.
- branches
Branches are based either on previous minor releases (e.g. 2.1.x)
or they are future, evolutionary developments based on the codebase
that is available at the time of branching. Branches are supported
by the community and fixes go into all branches that activly developed.
- scratchpad (block)
Small contributions that don't require a new branch and you want
to indicate that this is not supported by the community at the
time of committing it. Examples are new components.
They still need a vote to be moved into a stable block or into
Cocoon core.
WDOT?
--
Reinhard
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by Ugo Cei <ug...@apache.org>.
Il giorno 31/lug/04, alle 03:29, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
> Same thing as the previous proposal but with the "whiteboard" name,
> "playground" kinda sucks and "research" would scare people way because
> it feels too serious.
"Whiteboard" sounds fine. We already have a "scratchpad" in the trunk,
however. What would be the difference between scratchpad and
whiteboard?
--
Ugo Cei - http://beblogging.com/
Re: [proposal - take 2] Whiteboard Branches
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> The private branches proposal didn't fly, so let's try again.
>
> Same thing as the previous proposal but with the "whiteboard" name,
> "playground" kinda sucks and "research" would scare people way because
> it feels too serious.
>
> comments?
The term "whiteboard" is excellent. It has the connotation
of demonstrating to one's peers so that they can get a
clear picture.
We would need a "status" note in each whiteboard so that
people know when it is no longer in use. Or do whiteboards
get deleted when finished?
They are not necessarily only "branches". A whiteboard
can be anything.
--
David Crossley