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Posted to dev@servicemix.apache.org by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> on 2012/08/31 09:31:59 UTC
Old website still mixed with new - People seeing old stuff
Hi
Its a bit unfortunate that the SMX website still seems to have some of
the old pages mixed, which can have people see out of date content.
Some people may type /download to get the download page
http://servicemix.apache.org/download.html
Or if you get to a /home page, its also out of date
http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html
But the *real* and updated page ends with an s, so its should be
http://servicemix.apache.org/downloads.html
How can we get all the old cruft removed to ensure the site is up to date?
Would it be possible to remove everything, and republish the site?
--
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
FuseSource
Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
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Re: Old website still mixed with new - People seeing old stuff
Posted by Henryk Konsek <he...@gmail.com>.
> Its a bit unfortunate that the SMX website still seems to have some of
> the old pages mixed, which can have people see out of date content.
Yeah, the SMX site a terrible place. Actually it is sometime a problem
when I endorse ServiceMix to be used in a new project - client googles
for the SMX and sees this horrible, outdated site :| . This is the one
of the reasons why I recommend Fuse ESB now :P . Fuse site looks so
pro :) .
Fixing the ServiceMix site is something that I've wanted to do for a
long time. In is somewhere in my private "after-hours" backlog.
Unfortunately there are many things in it :) .
But yeah, SMX site should be fixed. At least not to include deprecated
content which misleads people (with download[s] site being the
prominent example of it).
--
Henryk Konsek
http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com
Re: Old website still mixed with new - People seeing old stuff
Posted by Gert Vanthienen <ge...@gmail.com>.
L.S.,
Good catch and thanks for letting us know - I'll make sure that gets
fixed today!
Regards,
Gert Vanthienen
------------------------
FuseSource
Web: http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Ge@@ru <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I found yet this errors on webpage
> http://servicemix.apache.org/downloads/servicemix-4.4.2
>
> link to jira ticket are wrong. It is needed a s/active/jira/ ;)
>
> Bye
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 11:31 +0200, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
>> L.S.,
>>
>>
>> Excellent suggestion, I added redirect configurations for those two
>> pages to the .htaccess file so people are now being sent to the proper
>> location instead. Just let me know if there are other pages that
>> require the same workaround (until we have migrated to svnpubsub) and
>> I'll add those as well.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gert Vanthienen
>> ------------------------
>> FuseSource
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Ruwan Linton <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I think the (old) URLs might be useful for people who keep them bookmarked
>> > etc. (well I guess Google indexes will be much valuable than that) So you
>> > might want to consider a re-direction, if not HTTP re-direct, even a bare
>> > HTML page and a javascript redirect on page load [1] under those old URLs,
>> > would work.
>> >
>> > [1] - http://www.tizag.com/javascriptT/javascriptredirect.php
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ruwan
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Gert Vanthienen
>> > <ge...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> L.S.,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I manually removed those files from people.apache.org a while ago -
>> >> just verified it to make sure I didn't miss them, but both home.html
>> >> and download.html are no longer there, so I'll get in touch with
>> >> infra@ to ask about why these files are not getting deleted from the
>> >> actual web servers.
>> >>
>> >> I've been planning to look into migrating to svnpubsub for the
>> >> ServiceMix website because we have to do that before the end of the
>> >> year, so perhaps I should bump that up on my todo list, because at
>> >> that point in time, the contents of the website should always match
>> >> whatever HTML pages we have committed in SVN.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Gert Vanthienen
>> >> ------------------------
>> >> FuseSource
>> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> >> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi
>> >> >
>> >> > Its a bit unfortunate that the SMX website still seems to have some of
>> >> > the old pages mixed, which can have people see out of date content.
>> >> >
>> >> > Some people may type /download to get the download page
>> >> > http://servicemix.apache.org/download.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Or if you get to a /home page, its also out of date
>> >> > http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > But the *real* and updated page ends with an s, so its should be
>> >> > http://servicemix.apache.org/downloads.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > How can we get all the old cruft removed to ensure the site is up to
>> >> date?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Would it be possible to remove everything, and republish the site?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Claus Ibsen
>> >> > -----------------
>> >> > FuseSource
>> >> > Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>> >> > Web: http://fusesource.com
>> >> > Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
>> >> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> >> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ruwan Linton
>> > Member, Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org
>> > Director of Engineering; http://adroitlogic.org
>> >
>> > phone: +94 11 251 6899
>> > email: ruwan@adroitlogic.com; cell: +94 77 341 3097
>> > blog: http://blog.ruwan.org
>> > linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ruwanlinton
>> > google: http://www.google.com/profiles/ruwan.linton
>> > tweet: http://twitter.com/ruwanlinton
>
>
Re: Old website still mixed with new - People seeing old stuff
Posted by "Ge@@ru" <ge...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I found yet this errors on webpage
http://servicemix.apache.org/downloads/servicemix-4.4.2
link to jira ticket are wrong. It is needed a s/active/jira/ ;)
Bye
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 11:31 +0200, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
> L.S.,
>
>
> Excellent suggestion, I added redirect configurations for those two
> pages to the .htaccess file so people are now being sent to the proper
> location instead. Just let me know if there are other pages that
> require the same workaround (until we have migrated to svnpubsub) and
> I'll add those as well.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gert Vanthienen
> ------------------------
> FuseSource
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Ruwan Linton <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think the (old) URLs might be useful for people who keep them bookmarked
> > etc. (well I guess Google indexes will be much valuable than that) So you
> > might want to consider a re-direction, if not HTTP re-direct, even a bare
> > HTML page and a javascript redirect on page load [1] under those old URLs,
> > would work.
> >
> > [1] - http://www.tizag.com/javascriptT/javascriptredirect.php
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ruwan
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Gert Vanthienen
> > <ge...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> L.S.,
> >>
> >>
> >> I manually removed those files from people.apache.org a while ago -
> >> just verified it to make sure I didn't miss them, but both home.html
> >> and download.html are no longer there, so I'll get in touch with
> >> infra@ to ask about why these files are not getting deleted from the
> >> actual web servers.
> >>
> >> I've been planning to look into migrating to svnpubsub for the
> >> ServiceMix website because we have to do that before the end of the
> >> year, so perhaps I should bump that up on my todo list, because at
> >> that point in time, the contents of the website should always match
> >> whatever HTML pages we have committed in SVN.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Gert Vanthienen
> >> ------------------------
> >> FuseSource
> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > Its a bit unfortunate that the SMX website still seems to have some of
> >> > the old pages mixed, which can have people see out of date content.
> >> >
> >> > Some people may type /download to get the download page
> >> > http://servicemix.apache.org/download.html
> >> >
> >> > Or if you get to a /home page, its also out of date
> >> > http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > But the *real* and updated page ends with an s, so its should be
> >> > http://servicemix.apache.org/downloads.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > How can we get all the old cruft removed to ensure the site is up to
> >> date?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Would it be possible to remove everything, and republish the site?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Claus Ibsen
> >> > -----------------
> >> > FuseSource
> >> > Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> >> > Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> > Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
> >> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ruwan Linton
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org
> > Director of Engineering; http://adroitlogic.org
> >
> > phone: +94 11 251 6899
> > email: ruwan@adroitlogic.com; cell: +94 77 341 3097
> > blog: http://blog.ruwan.org
> > linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ruwanlinton
> > google: http://www.google.com/profiles/ruwan.linton
> > tweet: http://twitter.com/ruwanlinton
Re: Old website still mixed with new - People seeing old stuff
Posted by Gert Vanthienen <ge...@gmail.com>.
L.S.,
Excellent suggestion, I added redirect configurations for those two
pages to the .htaccess file so people are now being sent to the proper
location instead. Just let me know if there are other pages that
require the same workaround (until we have migrated to svnpubsub) and
I'll add those as well.
Regards,
Gert Vanthienen
------------------------
FuseSource
Web: http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Ruwan Linton <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the (old) URLs might be useful for people who keep them bookmarked
> etc. (well I guess Google indexes will be much valuable than that) So you
> might want to consider a re-direction, if not HTTP re-direct, even a bare
> HTML page and a javascript redirect on page load [1] under those old URLs,
> would work.
>
> [1] - http://www.tizag.com/javascriptT/javascriptredirect.php
>
> Thanks,
> Ruwan
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Gert Vanthienen
> <ge...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> L.S.,
>>
>>
>> I manually removed those files from people.apache.org a while ago -
>> just verified it to make sure I didn't miss them, but both home.html
>> and download.html are no longer there, so I'll get in touch with
>> infra@ to ask about why these files are not getting deleted from the
>> actual web servers.
>>
>> I've been planning to look into migrating to svnpubsub for the
>> ServiceMix website because we have to do that before the end of the
>> year, so perhaps I should bump that up on my todo list, because at
>> that point in time, the contents of the website should always match
>> whatever HTML pages we have committed in SVN.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gert Vanthienen
>> ------------------------
>> FuseSource
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > Its a bit unfortunate that the SMX website still seems to have some of
>> > the old pages mixed, which can have people see out of date content.
>> >
>> > Some people may type /download to get the download page
>> > http://servicemix.apache.org/download.html
>> >
>> > Or if you get to a /home page, its also out of date
>> > http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html
>> >
>> >
>> > But the *real* and updated page ends with an s, so its should be
>> > http://servicemix.apache.org/downloads.html
>> >
>> >
>> > How can we get all the old cruft removed to ensure the site is up to
>> date?
>> >
>> >
>> > Would it be possible to remove everything, and republish the site?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Claus Ibsen
>> > -----------------
>> > FuseSource
>> > Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
>> > Web: http://fusesource.com
>> > Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ruwan Linton
> Member, Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org
> Director of Engineering; http://adroitlogic.org
>
> phone: +94 11 251 6899
> email: ruwan@adroitlogic.com; cell: +94 77 341 3097
> blog: http://blog.ruwan.org
> linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ruwanlinton
> google: http://www.google.com/profiles/ruwan.linton
> tweet: http://twitter.com/ruwanlinton
Re: Old website still mixed with new - People seeing old stuff
Posted by Ruwan Linton <ru...@gmail.com>.
I think the (old) URLs might be useful for people who keep them bookmarked
etc. (well I guess Google indexes will be much valuable than that) So you
might want to consider a re-direction, if not HTTP re-direct, even a bare
HTML page and a javascript redirect on page load [1] under those old URLs,
would work.
[1] - http://www.tizag.com/javascriptT/javascriptredirect.php
Thanks,
Ruwan
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Gert Vanthienen
<ge...@gmail.com>wrote:
> L.S.,
>
>
> I manually removed those files from people.apache.org a while ago -
> just verified it to make sure I didn't miss them, but both home.html
> and download.html are no longer there, so I'll get in touch with
> infra@ to ask about why these files are not getting deleted from the
> actual web servers.
>
> I've been planning to look into migrating to svnpubsub for the
> ServiceMix website because we have to do that before the end of the
> year, so perhaps I should bump that up on my todo list, because at
> that point in time, the contents of the website should always match
> whatever HTML pages we have committed in SVN.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gert Vanthienen
> ------------------------
> FuseSource
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Its a bit unfortunate that the SMX website still seems to have some of
> > the old pages mixed, which can have people see out of date content.
> >
> > Some people may type /download to get the download page
> > http://servicemix.apache.org/download.html
> >
> > Or if you get to a /home page, its also out of date
> > http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html
> >
> >
> > But the *real* and updated page ends with an s, so its should be
> > http://servicemix.apache.org/downloads.html
> >
> >
> > How can we get all the old cruft removed to ensure the site is up to
> date?
> >
> >
> > Would it be possible to remove everything, and republish the site?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > -----------------
> > FuseSource
> > Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> > Web: http://fusesource.com
> > Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>
--
Ruwan Linton
Member, Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org
Director of Engineering; http://adroitlogic.org
phone: +94 11 251 6899
email: ruwan@adroitlogic.com; cell: +94 77 341 3097
blog: http://blog.ruwan.org
linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ruwanlinton
google: http://www.google.com/profiles/ruwan.linton
tweet: http://twitter.com/ruwanlinton
Re: Old website still mixed with new - People seeing old stuff
Posted by Gert Vanthienen <ge...@gmail.com>.
L.S.,
I manually removed those files from people.apache.org a while ago -
just verified it to make sure I didn't miss them, but both home.html
and download.html are no longer there, so I'll get in touch with
infra@ to ask about why these files are not getting deleted from the
actual web servers.
I've been planning to look into migrating to svnpubsub for the
ServiceMix website because we have to do that before the end of the
year, so perhaps I should bump that up on my todo list, because at
that point in time, the contents of the website should always match
whatever HTML pages we have committed in SVN.
Regards,
Gert Vanthienen
------------------------
FuseSource
Web: http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Its a bit unfortunate that the SMX website still seems to have some of
> the old pages mixed, which can have people see out of date content.
>
> Some people may type /download to get the download page
> http://servicemix.apache.org/download.html
>
> Or if you get to a /home page, its also out of date
> http://servicemix.apache.org/home.html
>
>
> But the *real* and updated page ends with an s, so its should be
> http://servicemix.apache.org/downloads.html
>
>
> How can we get all the old cruft removed to ensure the site is up to date?
>
>
> Would it be possible to remove everything, and republish the site?
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> FuseSource
> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen