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Posted to solr-dev@lucene.apache.org by mi...@pricejunkie.com on 2006/03/08 20:41:36 UTC
Windows/IIS user
I currently run all my projects on Windows Server/IIS/C# and I use the C# dotnetlucene version.
After reviewing solr I am excited about trying it out however I am a windows guy. I am going to try and set up solr using Tomcat/ISAP_Redirector/J2EE AND even try to use the original lucene(java version).
Since I am somewhat new to java as well, could someone give me requirements to develop with solr/lucene for java? For example: is eclipse ok as the development tool and is tomcat the preferred container?
Also, what drawbacks or limitations do you see if I use windows server/IIS with Tomcat/sobr?
Thanks,
Mike Austin
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
Really? Good to know. My mistake, my apologies ;)
Yoav
On 3/8/06, Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
>
> : You need a JDK, preferably 1.4 and higher. Any Servlet 2.3 compliant
>
> Actually, java 1.5 is required to run solr.
>
>
> -Hoss
>
>
--
Yoav Shapira
Senior Architect
Nimalex LLC
1 Mifflin Place, Suite 310
Cambridge, MA, USA
yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: You need a JDK, preferably 1.4 and higher. Any Servlet 2.3 compliant
Actually, java 1.5 is required to run solr.
-Hoss
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>.
Hola,
> After reviewing solr I am excited about trying it out however I am a windows guy. I am >going to try and set up solr using Tomcat/ISAP_Redirector/J2EE AND even try to use the >original lucene(java version).
Know that although the ISAP_Redirector is a stable and mature piece of
software, it's not super-actively maintained. Bugs are fixed and new
features added, but only very occassionally.
> Since I am somewhat new to java as well, could someone give me requirements to >develop with solr/lucene for java? For example: is eclipse ok as the development tool and >is tomcat the preferred container?
You need a JDK, preferably 1.4 and higher. Any Servlet 2.3 compliant
container should work, so Tomcat 5.x or later, Jetty 5.x or later,
recent (<3 years old) versions of WebSphere or Weblogic, all should be
fine. I'm biased towards Tomcat as the preferred container, but
that's just me ;)
Eclipse should also be OK as a development platform,
> Also, what drawbacks or limitations do you see if I use windows server/IIS with >Tomcat/sobr?
Drawbacks or limitations compared to what other approach?
Yoav
--
Yoav Shapira
Senior Architect
Nimalex LLC
1 Mifflin Place, Suite 310
Cambridge, MA, USA
yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by Ian Holsman <Ia...@Holsman.net>.
we're probably floating a bit off topic here, but yes.. if you have
DHCP in your network
it should auto-detect it.
On 3/9/06, Mike.Austin <Mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> Hmm.. this seems tougher than I thought it would be. I'm going to do some
> research on this.. Also, I'm running 2 AMD opteron 64bit processors and I'm
> seeing that most of the main linux distribs support 64bit. Free would be
> best in my situation.
>
> For most linux distributions, is hooking up to networks and the internet
> easy?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yonik Seeley" <ys...@gmail.com>
> To: <so...@lucene.apache.org>; <ia...@holsman.net>
> Cc: "Mike. Austin" <Mi...@pricejunkie.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Windows/IIS user
>
>
> I agree, stick with some kind of RedHat variant, esp if you aren't a UNIX
> pro.
> If you haven't purchased hardware, AMD64 currently gives the best bang
> for the buck (by far).
>
> Fedora Core is RedHat's free/community/desktop/bleeding_edge distribution.
> CentOS is based on RHEL (RedHat Enterprise Linux) which is more
> conservative and focuses more on stability, with a longer release
> cycle.
>
> -Yonik
>
>
> On 3/8/06, Ian Holsman <kr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you are not familiar with linux I would go with RedHat enterprise
> > (or something like CentOS which is a clone).
> >
> > It really depends on you, other people swear by ubuntu and debian.
> >
> > regards
> > Ian
> >
> > On 3/9/06, Mike.Austin <Mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> > > What free Linux distribution is best or would you recommend for fast web
> > > application or for solr in particular? Which one is most commonly used
> > > for
> > > full open-source high-volume ecommerce sites?
>
>
--
Ian@Holsman.net -- blog: http://feh.holsman.net/ -- PH: ++61-3-9877-0909
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough. -
Mario Andretti
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by Yonik Seeley <ys...@gmail.com>.
So by the direction you are going, I assume you need multiple
searchers with index distribution/replication? If not, stick with
Windows since you are familiar with it.
-Yonik
On 3/8/06, Mike.Austin <Mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> Hmm.. this seems tougher than I thought it would be. I'm going to do some
> research on this.. Also, I'm running 2 AMD opteron 64bit processors and I'm
> seeing that most of the main linux distribs support 64bit. Free would be
> best in my situation.
>
> For most linux distributions, is hooking up to networks and the internet
> easy?
These days, yes. As long as your hardware isn't exotic.
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by "Mike.Austin" <Mi...@pricejunkie.com>.
Hmm.. this seems tougher than I thought it would be. I'm going to do some
research on this.. Also, I'm running 2 AMD opteron 64bit processors and I'm
seeing that most of the main linux distribs support 64bit. Free would be
best in my situation.
For most linux distributions, is hooking up to networks and the internet
easy?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yonik Seeley" <ys...@gmail.com>
To: <so...@lucene.apache.org>; <ia...@holsman.net>
Cc: "Mike. Austin" <Mi...@pricejunkie.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Windows/IIS user
I agree, stick with some kind of RedHat variant, esp if you aren't a UNIX
pro.
If you haven't purchased hardware, AMD64 currently gives the best bang
for the buck (by far).
Fedora Core is RedHat's free/community/desktop/bleeding_edge distribution.
CentOS is based on RHEL (RedHat Enterprise Linux) which is more
conservative and focuses more on stability, with a longer release
cycle.
-Yonik
On 3/8/06, Ian Holsman <kr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you are not familiar with linux I would go with RedHat enterprise
> (or something like CentOS which is a clone).
>
> It really depends on you, other people swear by ubuntu and debian.
>
> regards
> Ian
>
> On 3/9/06, Mike.Austin <Mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> > What free Linux distribution is best or would you recommend for fast web
> > application or for solr in particular? Which one is most commonly used
> > for
> > full open-source high-volume ecommerce sites?
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by Yonik Seeley <ys...@gmail.com>.
I agree, stick with some kind of RedHat variant, esp if you aren't a UNIX pro.
If you haven't purchased hardware, AMD64 currently gives the best bang
for the buck (by far).
Fedora Core is RedHat's free/community/desktop/bleeding_edge distribution.
CentOS is based on RHEL (RedHat Enterprise Linux) which is more
conservative and focuses more on stability, with a longer release
cycle.
-Yonik
On 3/8/06, Ian Holsman <kr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you are not familiar with linux I would go with RedHat enterprise
> (or something like CentOS which is a clone).
>
> It really depends on you, other people swear by ubuntu and debian.
>
> regards
> Ian
>
> On 3/9/06, Mike.Austin <Mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> > What free Linux distribution is best or would you recommend for fast web
> > application or for solr in particular? Which one is most commonly used for
> > full open-source high-volume ecommerce sites?
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by Ian Holsman <kr...@gmail.com>.
If you are not familiar with linux I would go with RedHat enterprise
(or something like CentOS which is a clone).
It really depends on you, other people swear by ubuntu and debian.
regards
Ian
On 3/9/06, Mike.Austin <Mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> What free Linux distribution is best or would you recommend for fast web
> application or for solr in particular? Which one is most commonly used for
> full open-source high-volume ecommerce sites?
>
> thanks
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yonik Seeley" <ys...@gmail.com>
> To: <so...@lucene.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Windows/IIS user
>
>
> On 3/8/06, mike.austin@pricejunkie.com <mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> > Also, what drawbacks or limitations do you see if I use windows server/IIS
> > with Tomcat/sobr?
>
> The snapshot & replication strategy for high availability is designed
> for UNIX (or filesystems with UNIX/posix semantics: esp hard links).
>
> So if you want multiple search boxes using Solr, you need to figure
> out an alternate way.
> Some alternatives:
> 1) run a separate Linux/UNIX search tier running Solr, making requests
> from the Windows boxes when search is needed.
> 2) send index updates to multiple searchers simultaneously.
> 3) do index distribution by hand (doable if you only need to see
> changes once a day or so).
>
> > Since I am somewhat new to java as well, could someone give me
> > requirements to develop with solr/lucene for java?
>
> To use Solr, you don't necessarily need to do any Java development.
> By default, it's a standalone server that is updated and queried via
> HTTP and XML. Check out the tutorial if you haven't yet.
>
> In the near future, we want to make updating easier by being able to
> point Solr at a database, specify some SQL, and have things
> automatically indexed.
>
> -Yonik
>
>
--
Ian@Holsman.net -- blog: http://feh.holsman.net/ -- PH: ++61-3-9877-0909
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough. -
Mario Andretti
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by "Mike.Austin" <Mi...@pricejunkie.com>.
What free Linux distribution is best or would you recommend for fast web
application or for solr in particular? Which one is most commonly used for
full open-source high-volume ecommerce sites?
thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yonik Seeley" <ys...@gmail.com>
To: <so...@lucene.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Windows/IIS user
On 3/8/06, mike.austin@pricejunkie.com <mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> Also, what drawbacks or limitations do you see if I use windows server/IIS
> with Tomcat/sobr?
The snapshot & replication strategy for high availability is designed
for UNIX (or filesystems with UNIX/posix semantics: esp hard links).
So if you want multiple search boxes using Solr, you need to figure
out an alternate way.
Some alternatives:
1) run a separate Linux/UNIX search tier running Solr, making requests
from the Windows boxes when search is needed.
2) send index updates to multiple searchers simultaneously.
3) do index distribution by hand (doable if you only need to see
changes once a day or so).
> Since I am somewhat new to java as well, could someone give me
> requirements to develop with solr/lucene for java?
To use Solr, you don't necessarily need to do any Java development.
By default, it's a standalone server that is updated and queried via
HTTP and XML. Check out the tutorial if you haven't yet.
In the near future, we want to make updating easier by being able to
point Solr at a database, specify some SQL, and have things
automatically indexed.
-Yonik
Re: Windows/IIS user
Posted by Yonik Seeley <ys...@gmail.com>.
On 3/8/06, mike.austin@pricejunkie.com <mi...@pricejunkie.com> wrote:
> Also, what drawbacks or limitations do you see if I use windows server/IIS with Tomcat/sobr?
The snapshot & replication strategy for high availability is designed
for UNIX (or filesystems with UNIX/posix semantics: esp hard links).
So if you want multiple search boxes using Solr, you need to figure
out an alternate way.
Some alternatives:
1) run a separate Linux/UNIX search tier running Solr, making requests
from the Windows boxes when search is needed.
2) send index updates to multiple searchers simultaneously.
3) do index distribution by hand (doable if you only need to see
changes once a day or so).
> Since I am somewhat new to java as well, could someone give me requirements to develop with solr/lucene for java?
To use Solr, you don't necessarily need to do any Java development.
By default, it's a standalone server that is updated and queried via
HTTP and XML. Check out the tutorial if you haven't yet.
In the near future, we want to make updating easier by being able to
point Solr at a database, specify some SQL, and have things
automatically indexed.
-Yonik