Jini.net domain

[Peter <ji...@zeus.net.au>]

The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.

I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?

Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?

Peter.

Re: Jini.net domain

[Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>]

We've currently got an org.apache.river.api namespace for new stuff.

I think a rename would need an additional motivator.

At some point, I suspect around Java 8's release, classdep may begin 
having issues finding dependencies.

I modified classdep (with help from Tim Blackman) to add support for 
generics in order to support Java 5, however classdep has a clunky 
antique feel about it now, I think Rio has a good deployment strategy we 
could all learn from.

Cheers,

Peter.


On 12/03/2013 8:13 PM, Dan Creswell wrote:
> "But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg."
>
> Shouldn't we talk the grand "River rename"? I mean we've said before
> now that we'd treat net.jini as an old compatibility namespace and
> define some new ones over time....
>
> Just raising a topic, not prosecuting an agenda.
>
> On 12 March 2013 01:39, Greg Trasuk<tr...@stratuscom.com>  wrote:
>> I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
>> Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
>> registration?
>>
>> If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
>> name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
>> renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
>> content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
>> my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Greg.
>>
>> On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
>>> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>>>
>>> Peter.

Re: Jini.net domain

[Greg Trasuk <tr...@stratuscom.com>]

On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 06:13, Dan Creswell wrote:
> "But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg."
> 
> Shouldn't we talk the grand "River rename"? I mean we've said before
> now that we'd treat net.jini as an old compatibility namespace and
> define some new ones over time....
> 

Hmmm...  My impression has always been that we were going to keep the
"net.jini" namespace and just move away from "com.sun" (which we should
probably get on with).  I'm not sure why I have that impression. 
Nostalgia, perhaps, but I still feel like if everything is in
"org.apache.river", then it seems like a "project" (e.g. Struts) as
opposed to a "technology" (e.g. JSF).

I suppose part of it is that the Jini name at least has some name
recognition and a place in history ("Jini was doing SOA before anybody
called it SOA"), whereas to promote River seems like starting from
scratch ("so how do you compare to Hadoop, Camel, JBI, JSON, CORBA, RMI,
and a hundred other technologies).

> Just raising a topic, not prosecuting an agenda.
> 

Cheers,

Greg.

> On 12 March 2013 01:39, Greg Trasuk <tr...@stratuscom.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
> > Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
> > registration?
> >
> > If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
> > name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
> > renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
> > content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
> > my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Greg.
> >
> > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
> >> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
> >>
> >> Peter.
> >

Re: Jini.net domain

[Dan Creswell <da...@gmail.com>]

"But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg."

Shouldn't we talk the grand "River rename"? I mean we've said before
now that we'd treat net.jini as an old compatibility namespace and
define some new ones over time....

Just raising a topic, not prosecuting an agenda.

On 12 March 2013 01:39, Greg Trasuk <tr...@stratuscom.com> wrote:
>
> I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
> Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
> registration?
>
> If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
> name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
> renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
> content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
> my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg.
>
> On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
>> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>>
>> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>>
>> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>>
>> Peter.
>

Re: Jini.net domain

[Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>]

The issue raised to transfer this domain to the Apache foundation is 
unresolved, I gave up after there was an issue with the transfer and I 
got no further responses.

I accept your proposal ;)

Cheers,

Peter.

On 12/03/2013 12:03 PM, Dennis Reedy wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I'll go halfsies with you.
>
> Dennis
>
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 939PM, Greg Trasuk wrote:
>
>> I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
>> Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
>> registration?
>>
>> If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
>> name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
>> renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
>> content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
>> my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Greg.
>>
>> On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
>>> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>>>
>>> Peter.

Re: Jini.net domain

[Gregg Wonderly <gr...@gmail.com>]

If we can put up a page somewhere which just has a redirect to the apache site, that might be useful too.

Gregg

On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Dennis Reedy <de...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greg,
> 
> I'll go halfsies with you. 
> 
> Dennis
> 
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 939PM, Greg Trasuk wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
>> Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
>> registration?
>> 
>> If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
>> name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
>> renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
>> content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
>> my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Greg.
>> 
>> On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
>>> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>>> 
>>> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>>> 
>>> Peter.
>> 
> 

Re: Jini.net domain

[Dennis Reedy <de...@gmail.com>]

Greg,

I'll go halfsies with you. 

Dennis

On Mar 11, 2013, at 939PM, Greg Trasuk wrote:

> 
> I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
> Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
> registration?
> 
> If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
> name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
> renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
> content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
> my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Greg.
> 
> On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
>> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>> 
>> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>> 
>> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>> 
>> Peter.
> 

Re: Jini.net domain

[Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>]

I agree with Gregs's reasoning here. Using a domain name one controls 
for package naming is an important Java convention.

Patricia

On 3/11/2013 6:39 PM, Greg Trasuk wrote:
>
> I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
> Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
> registration?
>
> If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
> name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
> renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
> content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
> my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg.
>
> On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
>> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>>
>> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>>
>> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>>
>> Peter.
>

Re: Jini.net domain

["De Groot, Cees" <cd...@marktplaats.nl>]

More than happy to contribute some North American pesos. I agree that as
long as the packages are net.jini, at the very least the domain should be
under control. 

On 2013-03-12 2:39 AM, "Greg Trasuk" <tr...@stratuscom.com> wrote:

>
>I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
>Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
>registration?
>
>If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
>name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
>renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
>content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
>my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Greg.
>
>On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
>> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>> 
>> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>> 
>> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>> 
>> Peter.
>

Re: Jini.net domain

[Greg Trasuk <tr...@stratuscom.com>]

I'm confused - wasn't that domain transferred to the Apache Software
Foundation?  And if so, shouldn't the foundation be renewing the domain
registration?

If not, I suspect that we should maintain it simply because our package
name starts with "net.jini".  Who currently owns it?  I'll chip in to
renew the domain registration, although I'm in agreement that any
content hosting can stop.  If it helps, I can host a placeholder page on
my server.  But I do think we ought to keep the domain reg.

Cheers,

Greg.

On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:52, Peter wrote:
> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
> 
> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
> 
> Peter.

Re: Jini.net domain

[Dan Creswell <da...@gmail.com>]

Time to stop holding onto our past....dump it.

On 11 March 2013 21:52, Peter <ji...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>
> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>
> Peter.

Re: Jini.net domain

[Luis Matta <le...@uol.com.br>]

I think it is time to die :)
Farewell jini.net

(I was pretty involved with the wiki, and I believe it is over)


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Peter <ji...@zeus.net.au> wrote:

> The jini.net domain name registration has come up for renewal again.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone wants to take over as custodian?
>
> Does anyone have any time or ideas to do something useful with jini.net?
>
> Peter.
>