Access to mailing list... (was Re: POLL: JDK 1.5)

[Olaf Kock <ok...@abstrakt.de>]

Hi,

just having accidentally posted using the wrong account - one that has
not been pested by spam yet - I'd like to ask for opinion (or action) on
limiting posts on this list to accounts that also receive mail posted here.

I suppose, that my other account finally will be spammed too after
appearing in any archives here, but others might benefit from such a
limitation.

I know that it's a weak protection against spam senders who might use
sender addresses as they please, but it would protect people like me
from their own stupidity...

If somebody also has access to any archive I'd appreciate deleting my
last mail regarding the JDK 1.5 poll, but I believe it's too late for
that...

Cheers + thanks,
Olaf

Re: Access to mailing list...

[Olaf Kock <ok...@abstrakt.de>]

Janne Jalkanen schrieb:
>> Actually, most email Apache email lists are moderated
[...]
> Yes, they are, but as a moderator I personally don't remember all the 
> correct email addresses of all the people who have subscribed to the 
> mailing lists.  I doubt anyone does.

I wish I had offered some pills or other money related things in that 
mail, obviously it would have saved that account from becoming public. I 
hope to remember that the next time I post from the wrong account :*)

Thanks for the answers - I won't take any more action but wait for my 
deserved punishment. I believe I wouldn't get removed from all archives 
anyway.

Cheers,
Olaf

Re: Access to mailing list... (was Re: POLL: JDK 1.5)

[Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>]

And for the record, the purpose of moderation is to keep spam from  
showing up on the lists. It's not to restrict messages from specific  
users. As a moderator, if I see a message that appears to be relevant  
to the group, I'll allow it regardless of what email address it comes  
from. I might look closer at a message that comes from a suspicious  
address (like only allow that one message) but I'm certainly not  
filtering messages to keep email addresses private.

Craig

On Jan 14, 2008, at 12:22 AM, Janne Jalkanen wrote:

>> Actually, most email Apache email lists are moderated, and emails  
>> from
>> non-subscribed users do not go through to the list unless the  
>> moderator
>> approves it. There is just too much spam around to allow non- 
>> subscribed
>> posts. I'm surprised to hear that jspwiki lists do not have  
>> moderation
>> configured.
>
> Yes, they are, but as a moderator I personally don't remember all  
> the correct email addresses of all the people who have subscribed  
> to the mailing lists.  I doubt anyone does.
>
> /Janne

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

Re: Access to mailing list... (was Re: POLL: JDK 1.5)

[Janne Jalkanen <Ja...@ecyrd.com>]

> Actually, most email Apache email lists are moderated, and emails from
> non-subscribed users do not go through to the list unless the  
> moderator
> approves it. There is just too much spam around to allow non- 
> subscribed
> posts. I'm surprised to hear that jspwiki lists do not have moderation
> configured.

Yes, they are, but as a moderator I personally don't remember all the  
correct email addresses of all the people who have subscribed to the  
mailing lists.  I doubt anyone does.

/Janne

Re: Access to mailing list... (was Re: POLL: JDK 1.5)

[Simon Kitching <sk...@ops.co.at>]

Janne Jalkanen schrieb:
>
> Olaf,
>
> try contacting infrastructure@apache.org for these kinds of removal
> requests.  They should be able to help you out!
>
> However, I don't think that it's according to Apache customs to close
> mailing lists in such a way.  People regularly Cc relevant developer
> mailing lists, from what I've seen.

Actually, most email Apache email lists are moderated, and emails from
non-subscribed users do not go through to the list unless the moderator
approves it. There is just too much spam around to allow non-subscribed
posts. I'm surprised to hear that jspwiki lists do not have moderation
configured.

Re: Access to mailing list... (was Re: POLL: JDK 1.5)

[Janne Jalkanen <Ja...@ecyrd.com>]

Olaf,

try contacting infrastructure@apache.org for these kinds of removal  
requests.  They should be able to help you out!

However, I don't think that it's according to Apache customs to close  
mailing lists in such a way.  People regularly Cc relevant developer  
mailing lists, from what I've seen.

[I think this mailing list is monitored also by Nabble and some other  
services, so you might be out of luck...]

/Janne

On 12 Jan 2008, at 22:46, Olaf Kock wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> just having accidentally posted using the wrong account - one that has
> not been pested by spam yet - I'd like to ask for opinion (or  
> action) on
> limiting posts on this list to accounts that also receive mail  
> posted here.
>
> I suppose, that my other account finally will be spammed too after
> appearing in any archives here, but others might benefit from such a
> limitation.
>
> I know that it's a weak protection against spam senders who might use
> sender addresses as they please, but it would protect people like me
> from their own stupidity...
>
> If somebody also has access to any archive I'd appreciate deleting my
> last mail regarding the JDK 1.5 poll, but I believe it's too late for
> that...
>
> Cheers + thanks,
> Olaf
>
>