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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> on 2017/04/28 06:28:12 UTC
Github messages on dev list
Hi,
See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
We are now getting all these messages from Github on dev@cloudstack.apache.org
We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many messages from Github.
Anybody else feeling that way?
Wido
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by "Tutkowski, Mike" <Mi...@netapp.com>.
I don’t know…I like waking up to about 200 e-mails that I need to delete. ;)
On 4/28/17, 7:52 AM, "Nicolas Vazquez" <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
I personally prefer the way it worked before, where Github username was
shown in From field and not in Subject. That way mails could be grouped by
PR
2017-04-28 8:08 GMT-03:00 Will Stevens <wi...@gmail.com>:
> I would be +1 for moving them to commits@.
>
> In the current implementation, I find it is not nearly as useful at a
> glance. The info I care about (PR number and user) are not visible when I
> scroll through the list. Ideally we could change the subject format to move
> the important info to the start of the message.
>
> Something like:
> Git #2062 (swill): whatever message about...
>
> On Apr 28, 2017 4:24 AM, "Rene Moser" <ma...@renemoser.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Wido
> >
> > There have been messages from github in the past (you probably had a
> > filter?). I already wrote I don't like it and suggested to use
> > commits@cloudstack.apache.org for automated and bot messages.
> >
> > But a few devs insisted they like to keep them here that filtering would
> > be an option (for all others). So I created a filter (although I still
> > thing my suggestion would be the cleaner solution). The filter is not
> > matching anymore, I also have to adjust it.
> >
> > I am still +1 for moving them to commits@ and whoever needs them can
> > subscribe to this list. Opt-In.
> >
> > René
> >
> > On 04/28/2017 08:28 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
> > >
> > > We are now getting all these messages from Github on
> > dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > >
> > > We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
> > >
> > > Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many
> > messages from Github.
> > >
> > > Anybody else feeling that way?
> > >
> > > Wido
> > >
> >
>
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by Nicolas Vazquez <ni...@gmail.com>.
I personally prefer the way it worked before, where Github username was
shown in From field and not in Subject. That way mails could be grouped by
PR
2017-04-28 8:08 GMT-03:00 Will Stevens <wi...@gmail.com>:
> I would be +1 for moving them to commits@.
>
> In the current implementation, I find it is not nearly as useful at a
> glance. The info I care about (PR number and user) are not visible when I
> scroll through the list. Ideally we could change the subject format to move
> the important info to the start of the message.
>
> Something like:
> Git #2062 (swill): whatever message about...
>
> On Apr 28, 2017 4:24 AM, "Rene Moser" <ma...@renemoser.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Wido
> >
> > There have been messages from github in the past (you probably had a
> > filter?). I already wrote I don't like it and suggested to use
> > commits@cloudstack.apache.org for automated and bot messages.
> >
> > But a few devs insisted they like to keep them here that filtering would
> > be an option (for all others). So I created a filter (although I still
> > thing my suggestion would be the cleaner solution). The filter is not
> > matching anymore, I also have to adjust it.
> >
> > I am still +1 for moving them to commits@ and whoever needs them can
> > subscribe to this list. Opt-In.
> >
> > René
> >
> > On 04/28/2017 08:28 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
> > >
> > > We are now getting all these messages from Github on
> > dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > >
> > > We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
> > >
> > > Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many
> > messages from Github.
> > >
> > > Anybody else feeling that way?
> > >
> > > Wido
> > >
> >
>
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by Will Stevens <wi...@gmail.com>.
I would be +1 for moving them to commits@.
In the current implementation, I find it is not nearly as useful at a
glance. The info I care about (PR number and user) are not visible when I
scroll through the list. Ideally we could change the subject format to move
the important info to the start of the message.
Something like:
Git #2062 (swill): whatever message about...
On Apr 28, 2017 4:24 AM, "Rene Moser" <ma...@renemoser.net> wrote:
> Hi Wido
>
> There have been messages from github in the past (you probably had a
> filter?). I already wrote I don't like it and suggested to use
> commits@cloudstack.apache.org for automated and bot messages.
>
> But a few devs insisted they like to keep them here that filtering would
> be an option (for all others). So I created a filter (although I still
> thing my suggestion would be the cleaner solution). The filter is not
> matching anymore, I also have to adjust it.
>
> I am still +1 for moving them to commits@ and whoever needs them can
> subscribe to this list. Opt-In.
>
> René
>
> On 04/28/2017 08:28 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
> >
> > We are now getting all these messages from Github on
> dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >
> > We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
> >
> > Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many
> messages from Github.
> >
> > Anybody else feeling that way?
> >
> > Wido
> >
>
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by Will Stevens <wi...@gmail.com>.
Will the current setting of "commits" show messages for commits to PRs, or
only tracked branches in the apache repo?
If it doesn't, I wonder if we could get a notification if the status of a
PR changes. This would highlight if new code has been introduced or if
Travis has been kicked off again.
This would reduce the 'noise' and would focus on actionable changes to the
PRs which should be reviewed.
Is something like this possible?
On May 1, 2017 8:15 PM, "Wido den Hollander" <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
> > Op 1 mei 2017 om 9:41 schreef Daan Hoogland <daan.hoogland@shapeblue.com
> >:
> >
> >
> > Sorry to poop the party late but I am really opposed to commits@clo… To
> me this one is only for commits on potential release branches not for all
> the work in progress. I’d rather see either a separate list or people
> subscribing themselves to PRs on github.
> >
>
> I would go for the latter. Another lists seems like creating a list with a
> lot of noise. The amount of messages which came in were just to high imho.
>
> > I do agree the dev@ is polluted and could do without. On the other hand
> technical decisions tend to move to github and so a mirror on dev@ makes
> sense.
> >
>
> Yes, but having every update from Github on dev@ wasn't really useful
> either.
>
> INFRA set it to commits for now.
>
> Wido
>
> > Hate me!
> >
> > On 30/04/17 20:09, "Wido den Hollander" <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Op 28 april 2017 om 10:24 schreef Rene Moser <ma...@renemoser.net>:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Wido
> > >
> > > There have been messages from github in the past (you probably had
> a
> > > filter?). I already wrote I don't like it and suggested to use
> > > commits@cloudstack.apache.org for automated and bot messages.
> > >
> > > But a few devs insisted they like to keep them here that filtering
> would
> > > be an option (for all others). So I created a filter (although I
> still
> > > thing my suggestion would be the cleaner solution). The filter is
> not
> > > matching anymore, I also have to adjust it.
> > >
> > > I am still +1 for moving them to commits@ and whoever needs them
> can
> > > subscribe to this list. Opt-In.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, let me ask for that at infra. The commits list seems like the
> right place for this.
> >
> > I rather don't filter any messages since it might scare people away
> from the dev list when they get so many messages.
> >
> > Wido
> >
> > > René
> > >
> > > On 04/28/2017 08:28 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
> > > >
> > > > We are now getting all these messages from Github on
> dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
> > > >
> > > > Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so
> many messages from Github.
> > > >
> > > > Anybody else feeling that way?
> > > >
> > > > Wido
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > daan.hoogland@shapeblue.com
> > www.shapeblue.com
> > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
> > @shapeblue
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>.
> Op 1 mei 2017 om 9:41 schreef Daan Hoogland <da...@shapeblue.com>:
>
>
> Sorry to poop the party late but I am really opposed to commits@clo… To me this one is only for commits on potential release branches not for all the work in progress. I’d rather see either a separate list or people subscribing themselves to PRs on github.
>
I would go for the latter. Another lists seems like creating a list with a lot of noise. The amount of messages which came in were just to high imho.
> I do agree the dev@ is polluted and could do without. On the other hand technical decisions tend to move to github and so a mirror on dev@ makes sense.
>
Yes, but having every update from Github on dev@ wasn't really useful either.
INFRA set it to commits for now.
Wido
> Hate me!
>
> On 30/04/17 20:09, "Wido den Hollander" <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
>
> > Op 28 april 2017 om 10:24 schreef Rene Moser <ma...@renemoser.net>:
> >
> >
> > Hi Wido
> >
> > There have been messages from github in the past (you probably had a
> > filter?). I already wrote I don't like it and suggested to use
> > commits@cloudstack.apache.org for automated and bot messages.
> >
> > But a few devs insisted they like to keep them here that filtering would
> > be an option (for all others). So I created a filter (although I still
> > thing my suggestion would be the cleaner solution). The filter is not
> > matching anymore, I also have to adjust it.
> >
> > I am still +1 for moving them to commits@ and whoever needs them can
> > subscribe to this list. Opt-In.
> >
>
> Yes, let me ask for that at infra. The commits list seems like the right place for this.
>
> I rather don't filter any messages since it might scare people away from the dev list when they get so many messages.
>
> Wido
>
> > René
> >
> > On 04/28/2017 08:28 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
> > >
> > > We are now getting all these messages from Github on dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > >
> > > We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
> > >
> > > Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many messages from Github.
> > >
> > > Anybody else feeling that way?
> > >
> > > Wido
> > >
>
>
>
> daan.hoogland@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@shapeblue.com>.
Sorry to poop the party late but I am really opposed to commits@clo… To me this one is only for commits on potential release branches not for all the work in progress. I’d rather see either a separate list or people subscribing themselves to PRs on github.
I do agree the dev@ is polluted and could do without. On the other hand technical decisions tend to move to github and so a mirror on dev@ makes sense.
Hate me!
On 30/04/17 20:09, "Wido den Hollander" <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
> Op 28 april 2017 om 10:24 schreef Rene Moser <ma...@renemoser.net>:
>
>
> Hi Wido
>
> There have been messages from github in the past (you probably had a
> filter?). I already wrote I don't like it and suggested to use
> commits@cloudstack.apache.org for automated and bot messages.
>
> But a few devs insisted they like to keep them here that filtering would
> be an option (for all others). So I created a filter (although I still
> thing my suggestion would be the cleaner solution). The filter is not
> matching anymore, I also have to adjust it.
>
> I am still +1 for moving them to commits@ and whoever needs them can
> subscribe to this list. Opt-In.
>
Yes, let me ask for that at infra. The commits list seems like the right place for this.
I rather don't filter any messages since it might scare people away from the dev list when they get so many messages.
Wido
> René
>
> On 04/28/2017 08:28 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
> >
> > We are now getting all these messages from Github on dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >
> > We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
> >
> > Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many messages from Github.
> >
> > Anybody else feeling that way?
> >
> > Wido
> >
daan.hoogland@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>.
> Op 28 april 2017 om 10:24 schreef Rene Moser <ma...@renemoser.net>:
>
>
> Hi Wido
>
> There have been messages from github in the past (you probably had a
> filter?). I already wrote I don't like it and suggested to use
> commits@cloudstack.apache.org for automated and bot messages.
>
> But a few devs insisted they like to keep them here that filtering would
> be an option (for all others). So I created a filter (although I still
> thing my suggestion would be the cleaner solution). The filter is not
> matching anymore, I also have to adjust it.
>
> I am still +1 for moving them to commits@ and whoever needs them can
> subscribe to this list. Opt-In.
>
Yes, let me ask for that at infra. The commits list seems like the right place for this.
I rather don't filter any messages since it might scare people away from the dev list when they get so many messages.
Wido
> René
>
> On 04/28/2017 08:28 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
> >
> > We are now getting all these messages from Github on dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >
> > We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
> >
> > Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many messages from Github.
> >
> > Anybody else feeling that way?
> >
> > Wido
> >
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by Rene Moser <ma...@renemoser.net>.
Hi Wido
There have been messages from github in the past (you probably had a
filter?). I already wrote I don't like it and suggested to use
commits@cloudstack.apache.org for automated and bot messages.
But a few devs insisted they like to keep them here that filtering would
be an option (for all others). So I created a filter (although I still
thing my suggestion would be the cleaner solution). The filter is not
matching anymore, I also have to adjust it.
I am still +1 for moving them to commits@ and whoever needs them can
subscribe to this list. Opt-In.
Ren�
On 04/28/2017 08:28 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> Hi,
>
> See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
>
> We are now getting all these messages from Github on dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>
> We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
>
> Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many messages from Github.
>
> Anybody else feeling that way?
>
> Wido
>
Re: Github messages on dev list
Posted by Boris Stoyanov <bo...@shapeblue.com>.
+1,
I like the way it was showing who made the comment in FROM field, now just shows git at github dot com.
Is there a way we can change this setting?
Thanks,
Boris Stoyanov
boris.stoyanov@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
> On Apr 28, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13929
>
> We are now getting all these messages from Github on dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>
> We didn't have this before. Do we want this?
>
> Personally I find it very annoying that my inbox now gets so many messages from Github.
>
> Anybody else feeling that way?
>
> Wido