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Posted to users@flex.apache.org by Kunal Jaura <ku...@crmantra.com> on 2015/11/04 16:03:49 UTC
RE: Flex 4.15.0
Hi Alex,
We've been working on Mobile apps using Flex-AIR for the last 4 years. With all the hoopla around 'Flash dying' my boss has been after me to figure out if we need to move to a new technology with 'more community support'.
The reason I asked about this was to get an idea on what Apache Flex has in terms of a roadmap for enhancements/ new features for Flex. I do see a lot of activity & excitement around FlexJS but haven’t heard much on the Flex SDK side.
I've been a fan of Flex for years now and I guess I'm looking for help from this group to get something to counter my boss's point that 'the support for Flex is diminishing & it’s a dying toolset'.
Cheers
Kunal Jaura | Director of Architecture | www.CRMantra.com | office +1 (415) 839 9672 | mobile +1 (415) 272 4868 | kunal.jaura@CRMantra.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:49 AM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flex 4.15.0
It is “when”, not “if”, but there is no date planned right now. What are you expecting to find in 4.15?
-Alex
From: Kunal Jaura <ku...@crmantra.com>>
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Date: Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 11:16 AM
To: "users@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>" <us...@flex.apache.org>>
Subject: Flex 4.15.0
Hi,
Does anyone know if/ when Flex 4.15.0 will be released?
Cheers
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RE: Flex 4.15.0
Posted by Tom Brazil <tb...@axway.com>.
Agreed. Flex apps on iOS and Android mobile/tablet are really, really powerful. Video of a very fast mobile datagrid on iOS from Flex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm9yGfcwwBo&list=FLtniUcFZpSrdzaStBbsjkKQ
Looking forward to cross-platform with Flexjs
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 2:08 PM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flex 4.15.0
On 11/4/15, 11:54 AM, "Saul Diaz" <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The problem is starting to lose the fight in the desktop
What is winning the fight on the desktop?
>and is very hard to keep fighting in the web.
That is why I’m working hard on FlexJS. Wouldn’t it be awesome of the productivity of MXML and AS could produce HTML/CSS/JS apps?
-Alex
Re: Flex 4.15.0
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/4/15, 11:54 AM, "Saul Diaz" <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>The problem is starting to lose the fight in the desktop
What is winning the fight on the desktop?
>and is very hard to keep fighting in the web.
That is why I’m working hard on FlexJS. Wouldn’t it be awesome of the
productivity of MXML and AS could produce HTML/CSS/JS apps?
-Alex
RE: Flex 4.15.0
Posted by Saul Diaz <cr...@gmail.com>.
The problem is starting to lose the fight in the desktop and is very hard to keep fighting in the web.
Saul
-----Original Message-----
From: omuppi1@gmail.com [mailto:omuppi1@gmail.com] On Behalf Of OmPrakash Muppirala
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 12:32 PM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flex 4.15.0
Kunal,
Flex, especially for Mobile is not going anywhere anytime soon. I have been using Flex Mobile to build graphically intensive, data driven mobile apps for iOS and Android for a while now. Nothing comes close to the power of Flex and AIR in terms for cross platform app devlopment.
Take a look at the talk I gave at ApacheCon 2015 just last month. Slide number 4, especially, talks about the recent momentum and success behind Adobe AIR.
http://www.slideshare.net/bigosmallm/flex-mobile-apachecon-2015
Thanks,
Om
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/4/15, 7:03 AM, "Kunal Jaura" <ku...@crmantra.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi Alex,
> >
> >We've been working on Mobile apps using Flex-AIR for the last 4 years.
> >With all the hoopla around 'Flash dying' my boss has been after me to
> >figure out if we need to move to a new technology with 'more
> >community support'.
> >
> >The reason I asked about this was to get an idea on what Apache Flex
> >has in terms of a roadmap for enhancements/ new features for Flex. I
> >do see a lot of activity & excitement around FlexJS but haven’t heard
> >much on the Flex SDK side.
> >
> >I've been a fan of Flex for years now and I guess I'm looking for
> >help from this group to get something to counter my boss's point that
> >'the support for Flex is diminishing & it’s a dying toolset'.
>
> IMO, one of the main goals of FlexJS is to be the next generation of
> Flex where you can leverage your existing code and truly not have to
> worry about the future of Adobe runtimes (which, as far as I can tell,
> aren’t going away any time soon).
>
> That’s why there is more energy being spent on FlexJS. In theory your
> manager could not have such an opinion of FlexJS was ready to run your app.
>
> I don’t know how much code you have, but consider the cost of trying
> to migrate it to some other language vs making fewer changes and
> getting it to run without Flash/AIR via FlexJS.
>
> One problem we face right now is that we don’t have enough folks
> working on FlexJS to help it mature faster. I wish I could convince
> more managers to let folks like you devote even an hour a week to working with FlexJS.
> It should still be less costly than a full port to another language.
>
> And think about it this way: what could be put into a Flex 4.15.0 that
> would convince your manager to change his mind. If you can, try to
> help your manager see that, unlike a product sold by a for-profit
> company like Adobe, Apache Flex is a project supported by a community,
> and folks like you can become a committer in that community, which
> essentially gives your company true influence on the future of Flex at
> Apache. You can be the one to commit the bug fixes, generate the
> releases, etc. No other company can prevent that from happening.
> That’s why folks like you need to get involved enough to obtain
> committer and PMC member rights. That’s what best guarantees the future of the technology.
>
> HTH,
> -Alex
>
>
>
Re: Flex 4.15.0
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Kunal,
Flex, especially for Mobile is not going anywhere anytime soon. I have
been using Flex Mobile to build graphically intensive, data driven mobile
apps for iOS and Android for a while now. Nothing comes close to the power
of Flex and AIR in terms for cross platform app devlopment.
Take a look at the talk I gave at ApacheCon 2015 just last month. Slide
number 4, especially, talks about the recent momentum and success behind
Adobe AIR.
http://www.slideshare.net/bigosmallm/flex-mobile-apachecon-2015
Thanks,
Om
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/4/15, 7:03 AM, "Kunal Jaura" <ku...@crmantra.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi Alex,
> >
> >We've been working on Mobile apps using Flex-AIR for the last 4 years.
> >With all the hoopla around 'Flash dying' my boss has been after me to
> >figure out if we need to move to a new technology with 'more community
> >support'.
> >
> >The reason I asked about this was to get an idea on what Apache Flex has
> >in terms of a roadmap for enhancements/ new features for Flex. I do see a
> >lot of activity & excitement around FlexJS but haven’t heard much on the
> >Flex SDK side.
> >
> >I've been a fan of Flex for years now and I guess I'm looking for help
> >from this group to get something to counter my boss's point that 'the
> >support for Flex is diminishing & it’s a dying toolset'.
>
> IMO, one of the main goals of FlexJS is to be the next generation of Flex
> where you can leverage your existing code and truly not have to worry
> about the future of Adobe runtimes (which, as far as I can tell, aren’t
> going away any time soon).
>
> That’s why there is more energy being spent on FlexJS. In theory your
> manager could not have such an opinion of FlexJS was ready to run your app.
>
> I don’t know how much code you have, but consider the cost of trying to
> migrate it to some other language vs making fewer changes and getting it
> to run without Flash/AIR via FlexJS.
>
> One problem we face right now is that we don’t have enough folks working
> on FlexJS to help it mature faster. I wish I could convince more managers
> to let folks like you devote even an hour a week to working with FlexJS.
> It should still be less costly than a full port to another language.
>
> And think about it this way: what could be put into a Flex 4.15.0 that
> would convince your manager to change his mind. If you can, try to help
> your manager see that, unlike a product sold by a for-profit company like
> Adobe, Apache Flex is a project supported by a community, and folks like
> you can become a committer in that community, which essentially gives your
> company true influence on the future of Flex at Apache. You can be the
> one to commit the bug fixes, generate the releases, etc. No other company
> can prevent that from happening. That’s why folks like you need to get
> involved enough to obtain committer and PMC member rights. That’s what
> best guarantees the future of the technology.
>
> HTH,
> -Alex
>
>
>
Re: Flex 4.15.0
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 11/4/15, 7:03 AM, "Kunal Jaura" <ku...@crmantra.com> wrote:
>Hi Alex,
>
>We've been working on Mobile apps using Flex-AIR for the last 4 years.
>With all the hoopla around 'Flash dying' my boss has been after me to
>figure out if we need to move to a new technology with 'more community
>support'.
>
>The reason I asked about this was to get an idea on what Apache Flex has
>in terms of a roadmap for enhancements/ new features for Flex. I do see a
>lot of activity & excitement around FlexJS but haven’t heard much on the
>Flex SDK side.
>
>I've been a fan of Flex for years now and I guess I'm looking for help
>from this group to get something to counter my boss's point that 'the
>support for Flex is diminishing & it’s a dying toolset'.
IMO, one of the main goals of FlexJS is to be the next generation of Flex
where you can leverage your existing code and truly not have to worry
about the future of Adobe runtimes (which, as far as I can tell, aren’t
going away any time soon).
That’s why there is more energy being spent on FlexJS. In theory your
manager could not have such an opinion of FlexJS was ready to run your app.
I don’t know how much code you have, but consider the cost of trying to
migrate it to some other language vs making fewer changes and getting it
to run without Flash/AIR via FlexJS.
One problem we face right now is that we don’t have enough folks working
on FlexJS to help it mature faster. I wish I could convince more managers
to let folks like you devote even an hour a week to working with FlexJS.
It should still be less costly than a full port to another language.
And think about it this way: what could be put into a Flex 4.15.0 that
would convince your manager to change his mind. If you can, try to help
your manager see that, unlike a product sold by a for-profit company like
Adobe, Apache Flex is a project supported by a community, and folks like
you can become a committer in that community, which essentially gives your
company true influence on the future of Flex at Apache. You can be the
one to commit the bug fixes, generate the releases, etc. No other company
can prevent that from happening. That’s why folks like you need to get
involved enough to obtain committer and PMC member rights. That’s what
best guarantees the future of the technology.
HTH,
-Alex