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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com> on 2006/07/07 10:53:09 UTC
Re: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel classes?
On 7 July 2006 at 12:55, "Alexey Varlamov" <al...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I know the topic of test layouts is too popular here, but let me offer
> some more grounds :)
>
> I think classlib tests should include a suite for VM-independent
> kernel tests, like recently created testcases in H-765 and H-721. The
> latter has gone to drlvm/vm/tests/smoke suite, which also has a number
> of good candidates for moving to a common place.
>
> I see classlib/luni-kernel as the most natural location for now, but
> maybe it worths a separate module altogether?
Yes. I think tests that should pass on any VM's kernel classes should
live in the classlib modules (luni-kernel or security-kernel).
Regards,
Mark.
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Re: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel
classes?
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
This is something I think we should do sooner rather than later...
geir
Tim Ellison wrote:
> Vladimir Gorr wrote:
>> Agree. However we should have the possibility to run the class library
>> tests
>> against any VM.
>>
>> AFAIK we cannot provide this thing right now (java launcher requests the
>> clearvm library).
>
> That is the default name, but you can change it with a command line
> option -vm: and put it in a directory specified by -vmdir:,
>
> e.g. java -vmdir:drlvm -vm:foo
>
> look in jre/bin/drlvm for a library called foo.[so|dll] that exports the
> JNI_CreateJavaVM etc.
>
> The idea is that you can have multiple VMs in deploy and choose which
> you use at runtime.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>> All class library tests are run under J9 as default VM. I'd be not bad to
>> start running these tests
>>
>> against DRLVM as well. Otherwise the tests for the JIRA issues mentioned in
>> this thread
>>
>> will be useless if we put them on the class lib modules. Correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vladimir.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel
classes?
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
:)
Nathan Beyer wrote:
> Sorry. :(
>
> Sometimes these discussions get so deep my brain can't parse all of the >
> characters.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
>>
>> Nathan Beyer wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tim Ellison [mailto:t.p.ellison@gmail.com]
>>>>
>>>> That is the default name, but you can change it with a command line
>>>> option -vm: and put it in a directory specified by -vmdir:,
>>>>
>>>> e.g. java -vmdir:drlvm -vm:foo
>>> Does this work for DRLVM now?
>> No, which is why I said "This is something I think we should do sooner
>> rather than later" :)
>>
>>> I tried this method two weeks ago and couldn't
>>> get it to work. Is there anyway to configure the VM by an INI file or
>>> something? I'd prefer to use the DRLVM, but until I can just drop the
>>> binaries in place like the IBM VME it just seems like a pain.
>> Yep. We should get this done sooner rather than later :)
>>
>> geir
>>
>>> -Nathan
>>>
>>>> look in jre/bin/drlvm for a library called foo.[so|dll] that exports
>> the
>>>> JNI_CreateJavaVM etc.
>>>>
>>>> The idea is that you can have multiple VMs in deploy and choose which
>>>> you use at runtime.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>
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RE: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel classes?
Posted by Nathan Beyer <nb...@kc.rr.com>.
Sorry. :(
Sometimes these discussions get so deep my brain can't parse all of the >
characters.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
>
> Nathan Beyer wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tim Ellison [mailto:t.p.ellison@gmail.com]
> >>
> >> That is the default name, but you can change it with a command line
> >> option -vm: and put it in a directory specified by -vmdir:,
> >>
> >> e.g. java -vmdir:drlvm -vm:foo
> >
> > Does this work for DRLVM now?
>
> No, which is why I said "This is something I think we should do sooner
> rather than later" :)
>
> > I tried this method two weeks ago and couldn't
> > get it to work. Is there anyway to configure the VM by an INI file or
> > something? I'd prefer to use the DRLVM, but until I can just drop the
> > binaries in place like the IBM VME it just seems like a pain.
>
> Yep. We should get this done sooner rather than later :)
>
> geir
>
> >
> > -Nathan
> >
> >> look in jre/bin/drlvm for a library called foo.[so|dll] that exports
> the
> >> JNI_CreateJavaVM etc.
> >>
> >> The idea is that you can have multiple VMs in deploy and choose which
> >> you use at runtime.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tim
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel
classes?
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
Nathan Beyer wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Ellison [mailto:t.p.ellison@gmail.com]
>>
>> That is the default name, but you can change it with a command line
>> option -vm: and put it in a directory specified by -vmdir:,
>>
>> e.g. java -vmdir:drlvm -vm:foo
>
> Does this work for DRLVM now?
No, which is why I said "This is something I think we should do sooner
rather than later" :)
> I tried this method two weeks ago and couldn't
> get it to work. Is there anyway to configure the VM by an INI file or
> something? I'd prefer to use the DRLVM, but until I can just drop the
> binaries in place like the IBM VME it just seems like a pain.
Yep. We should get this done sooner rather than later :)
geir
>
> -Nathan
>
>> look in jre/bin/drlvm for a library called foo.[so|dll] that exports the
>> JNI_CreateJavaVM etc.
>>
>> The idea is that you can have multiple VMs in deploy and choose which
>> you use at runtime.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>>
>
>
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RE: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel classes?
Posted by Nathan Beyer <nb...@kc.rr.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Ellison [mailto:t.p.ellison@gmail.com]
>
> That is the default name, but you can change it with a command line
> option -vm: and put it in a directory specified by -vmdir:,
>
> e.g. java -vmdir:drlvm -vm:foo
Does this work for DRLVM now? I tried this method two weeks ago and couldn't
get it to work. Is there anyway to configure the VM by an INI file or
something? I'd prefer to use the DRLVM, but until I can just drop the
binaries in place like the IBM VME it just seems like a pain.
-Nathan
>
> look in jre/bin/drlvm for a library called foo.[so|dll] that exports the
> JNI_CreateJavaVM etc.
>
> The idea is that you can have multiple VMs in deploy and choose which
> you use at runtime.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
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Re: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel
classes?
Posted by Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>.
Vladimir Gorr wrote:
> Agree. However we should have the possibility to run the class library
> tests
> against any VM.
>
> AFAIK we cannot provide this thing right now (java launcher requests the
> clearvm library).
That is the default name, but you can change it with a command line
option -vm: and put it in a directory specified by -vmdir:,
e.g. java -vmdir:drlvm -vm:foo
look in jre/bin/drlvm for a library called foo.[so|dll] that exports the
JNI_CreateJavaVM etc.
The idea is that you can have multiple VMs in deploy and choose which
you use at runtime.
Regards,
Tim
> All class library tests are run under J9 as default VM. I'd be not bad to
> start running these tests
>
> against DRLVM as well. Otherwise the tests for the JIRA issues mentioned in
> this thread
>
> will be useless if we put them on the class lib modules. Correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vladimir.
>
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel classes?
Posted by Vladimir Gorr <vv...@gmail.com>.
On 7/7/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Vladimir Gorr wrote:
> > On 7/7/06, Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7 July 2006 at 12:55, "Alexey Varlamov" <alexey.v.varlamov@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I know the topic of test layouts is too popular here, but let me
> offer
> >> > some more grounds :)
> >> >
> >> > I think classlib tests should include a suite for VM-independent
> >> > kernel tests, like recently created testcases in H-765 and H-721. The
> >> > latter has gone to drlvm/vm/tests/smoke suite, which also has a
> number
> >> > of good candidates for moving to a common place.
> >> >
> >> > I see classlib/luni-kernel as the most natural location for now, but
> >> > maybe it worths a separate module altogether?
> >>
> >> Yes. I think tests that should pass on any VM's kernel classes should
> >> live in the classlib modules (luni-kernel or security-kernel).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Agree. However we should have the possibility to run the class library
> > tests
> > against any VM.
>
> Yah, I was pondering the same question, and thinking that we should put
> spec and intergration-ish tests outside of classlib, maybe in the
> if-I-keep-wishing-it-will-happen /testing subcomponent, but I don't
> really care too strongly.
>
> >
> > AFAIK we cannot provide this thing right now (java launcher requests the
> > clearvm library).
> >
> > All class library tests are run under J9 as default VM. I'd be not bad
> to
> > start running these tests
> >
> > against DRLVM as well. Otherwise the tests for the JIRA issues mentioned
> in
> > this thread
>
> The tests don't care. I've been playing with running things under DRLVM.
I have no doubts it was done.
>
> > will be useless if we put them on the class lib modules. Correct?
>
> I don't actually see why.
I thought we cannot run the class library tests under DRLVM. I mean *
automatically*.
Now I see there is such way (thanks Mark for coaching). Therefore moving the
VM-independent test
to the luni-kernel module is very useful thingJ.
Thanks,
Vladimir.
geir
>
>
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Re: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel
classes?
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
Vladimir Gorr wrote:
> On 7/7/06, Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 7 July 2006 at 12:55, "Alexey Varlamov" <al...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I know the topic of test layouts is too popular here, but let me offer
>> > some more grounds :)
>> >
>> > I think classlib tests should include a suite for VM-independent
>> > kernel tests, like recently created testcases in H-765 and H-721. The
>> > latter has gone to drlvm/vm/tests/smoke suite, which also has a number
>> > of good candidates for moving to a common place.
>> >
>> > I see classlib/luni-kernel as the most natural location for now, but
>> > maybe it worths a separate module altogether?
>>
>> Yes. I think tests that should pass on any VM's kernel classes should
>> live in the classlib modules (luni-kernel or security-kernel).
>
>
>
>
> Agree. However we should have the possibility to run the class library
> tests
> against any VM.
Yah, I was pondering the same question, and thinking that we should put
spec and intergration-ish tests outside of classlib, maybe in the
if-I-keep-wishing-it-will-happen /testing subcomponent, but I don't
really care too strongly.
>
> AFAIK we cannot provide this thing right now (java launcher requests the
> clearvm library).
>
> All class library tests are run under J9 as default VM. I'd be not bad to
> start running these tests
>
> against DRLVM as well. Otherwise the tests for the JIRA issues mentioned in
> this thread
The tests don't care. I've been playing with running things under DRLVM.
>
> will be useless if we put them on the class lib modules. Correct?
I don't actually see why.
geir
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Re: [vm-kernel][testing] Where to put VM-agnostic tests for kernel classes?
Posted by Vladimir Gorr <vv...@gmail.com>.
On 7/7/06, Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 7 July 2006 at 12:55, "Alexey Varlamov" <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I know the topic of test layouts is too popular here, but let me offer
> > some more grounds :)
> >
> > I think classlib tests should include a suite for VM-independent
> > kernel tests, like recently created testcases in H-765 and H-721. The
> > latter has gone to drlvm/vm/tests/smoke suite, which also has a number
> > of good candidates for moving to a common place.
> >
> > I see classlib/luni-kernel as the most natural location for now, but
> > maybe it worths a separate module altogether?
>
> Yes. I think tests that should pass on any VM's kernel classes should
> live in the classlib modules (luni-kernel or security-kernel).
Agree. However we should have the possibility to run the class library tests
against any VM.
AFAIK we cannot provide this thing right now (java launcher requests the
clearvm library).
All class library tests are run under J9 as default VM. I'd be not bad to
start running these tests
against DRLVM as well. Otherwise the tests for the JIRA issues mentioned in
this thread
will be useless if we put them on the class lib modules. Correct?
Thanks,
Vladimir.
> Regards,
> Mark.
>
>
>
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