Re: Eclipse vs. Swing (Re: [jira] Commented: (CAY-762) ERDiagram for Object Entities in Cayenne Modeler)

[Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>]

On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Andrey Razumovsky wrote:

> Once again, I'm all for Cayenne-Eclipse plugin, but I'm sceptical  
> about its
> future in current state of Cayenne community

I agree with this assessment.

On the other hand there is a chance that starting a prototype will  
cause interest in the community and we'll get dedicated participants.  
This is a case of "build it and they'll come". E.g. Apache Click  
project has a simple Cayenne plugin. Maybe we can collaborate with  
them somehow. So there's hope (and there's also Summer of Code next  
year ;-)).

I am no Eclipse platform guru either, and have very little time, but I  
am interested enough to start poking and prototype a plugin that does  
something that Modeler doesn't. So that it will be a nice-to-have  
plugin for Cayenne users, even though it does not substitute the  
Modeler. This may generate some interest (or not).

But yeah, I agree with you, and let's step carefully and try not to  
overcommit ourselves to something that we can't deliver.

Andrus

Re: Eclipse vs. Swing (Re: [jira] Commented: (CAY-762) ERDiagram for Object Entities in Cayenne Modeler)

[Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>]

On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Bob Schellink wrote:

>  Preferences > General > Workspace > Refresh Automatically

Haven't tried it, but looks like something that would cause race  
conditions, conflicting with command line builds, git updates, etc.

Andrus

Re: Eclipse vs. Swing (Re: [jira] Commented: (CAY-762) ERDiagram for Object Entities in Cayenne Modeler)

[Bob Schellink <sa...@gmail.com>]

You guys probably know this already but Eclipse does have support for refreshing files outside the 
IDE. It uses polling though, so it far from perfect:

   Preferences > General > Workspace > Refresh Automatically

Not sure about IDEA but Netbeans also supports this feature.

kind regards

bob

Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> 
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Andrey Razumovsky wrote:
> 
>> Once again, I'm all for Cayenne-Eclipse plugin, but I'm sceptical 
>> about its
>> future in current state of Cayenne community
> 
> I agree with this assessment.
> 
> On the other hand there is a chance that starting a prototype will cause 
> interest in the community and we'll get dedicated participants. This is 
> a case of "build it and they'll come". E.g. Apache Click project has a 
> simple Cayenne plugin. Maybe we can collaborate with them somehow. So 
> there's hope (and there's also Summer of Code next year ;-)).
> 
> I am no Eclipse platform guru either, and have very little time, but I 
> am interested enough to start poking and prototype a plugin that does 
> something that Modeler doesn't. So that it will be a nice-to-have plugin 
> for Cayenne users, even though it does not substitute the Modeler. This 
> may generate some interest (or not).
> 
> But yeah, I agree with you, and let's step carefully and try not to 
> overcommit ourselves to something that we can't deliver.
> 
> Andrus
> 
> 

Re: Eclipse vs. Swing (Re: [jira] Commented: (CAY-762) ERDiagram for Object Entities in Cayenne Modeler)

[Andrey Razumovsky <ra...@gmail.com>]

In the meanwhile, I'll continue my research with JGraph. Nobody knows, what
will come out of this plugin idea. After all, provided it is constanly
improved, CM can become a "studio" that plugin will never be

2009/11/2 Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>

>
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Andrey Razumovsky wrote:
>
>  Once again, I'm all for Cayenne-Eclipse plugin, but I'm sceptical about
>> its
>> future in current state of Cayenne community
>>
>
> I agree with this assessment.
>
> On the other hand there is a chance that starting a prototype will cause
> interest in the community and we'll get dedicated participants. This is a
> case of "build it and they'll come". E.g. Apache Click project has a simple
> Cayenne plugin. Maybe we can collaborate with them somehow. So there's hope
> (and there's also Summer of Code next year ;-)).
>
> I am no Eclipse platform guru either, and have very little time, but I am
> interested enough to start poking and prototype a plugin that does something
> that Modeler doesn't. So that it will be a nice-to-have plugin for Cayenne
> users, even though it does not substitute the Modeler. This may generate
> some interest (or not).
>
> But yeah, I agree with you, and let's step carefully and try not to
> overcommit ourselves to something that we can't deliver.
>
> Andrus
>
>


-- 
Andrey