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Posted to users@tomee.apache.org by COURTAULT Francois <fr...@thalesgroup.com.INVALID> on 2023/04/01 10:18:42 UTC
RE: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Hello Richard,
You haven't the choice right ? You have to do that: qualifying TomEE 9.x on Tomcat 10.1.x.
In order to avoid any confusion, it could be also nice to align on the version meaning TomEE 10 runing Tomcat 10.1.x and TomEE 11 runing Tomcat 11 (M4 as of today). Just my 2 cents.
Best Regards.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
Sent: vendredi 31 mars 2023 15:07
To: users@tomee.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Hi,
we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot eol 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any security/bug fixes.
We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
Any help with it is welcome.
Gruß
Richard
Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
> Hello TomEE users,
>
> is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
> I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
> process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
> support for 9.x is given.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
>
>
>
> BR,
> Manuel
RE: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by COURTAULT Francois <fr...@thalesgroup.com.INVALID>.
Hello Jean-Louis,
If I have understood:
- TomEE 9 currently uses Tomcat 10.0.x and is aligned with Jakarta EE 9.1 and µProfile 5.0 fine
- TomEE10 would use Tomcat 10.1.x and would be aligned with Jakarta EE 10 and µProfile 6.0?
- TomEE11 would use Tomcat 11.0.x and would be aligned with Jakarta EE 11
But Richard wrote: " TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x " because of the Tomcat 10.0.x EOL.
This is where there is confusion according to me because if TomEE 9 will use Tomcat 10.1.x instead => TomEE 9 would have some Jakarta EE 10 stuff due to Tomcat 10.1.x usage.
So maybe TomEE 9 would be a temporary release and the focus could be to start TomEE 10.x relying on Tomcat 10.1.x as soon as possible.
It's just my point of view of course.
I have seen that ActiveMQ has released 5.18.0 version which is JMS 2.0 certified :-)
When would you include this version in TomEE ? and in which TomEE version ?
Best Regards.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>
Sent: dimanche 2 avril 2023 16:47
To: users@tomee.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
-1 to change naming convention.
TomEE version is aligned with the EE version implemented. Way either for users. TomEE 9 implements EE 9, TomEE 10 implements EE 11, etc
We use Tomcat, Hibernate, OpenJPA, CXF, OpenWebBeans, and they all have their own rules we don't get to decide or say a word. So we want to stay away. Tomcat, as you mentioned, has Tomcat 10.x and 10.1.x and Tomcat 11.x.
It's not the first time, there was also Tomcat 8.5.x. Some get discontinued, some versions get added in the middle as it fits the project and that's ok.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 12:18 PM COURTAULT Francois <fr...@thalesgroup.com.invalid> wrote:
> Hello Richard,
>
> You haven't the choice right ? You have to do that: qualifying TomEE
> 9.x on Tomcat 10.1.x.
>
> In order to avoid any confusion, it could be also nice to align on the
> version meaning TomEE 10 runing Tomcat 10.1.x and TomEE 11 runing
> Tomcat
> 11 (M4 as of today). Just my 2 cents.
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
> Sent: vendredi 31 mars 2023 15:07
> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
>
> Hi,
>
> we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot
> eol 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
>
> The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the
> basis for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any
> security/bug fixes.
>
> We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x
> (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
>
> To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the
> TCK signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
>
> Any help with it is welcome.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
> Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
> > Hello TomEE users,
> >
> > is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
> > I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
> > process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
> > support for 9.x is given.
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
> >
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Manuel
>
>
Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
Posted by Jean-Louis Monteiro <jl...@tomitribe.com>.
-1 to change naming convention.
TomEE version is aligned with the EE version implemented. Way either for
users. TomEE 9 implements EE 9, TomEE 10 implements EE 11, etc
We use Tomcat, Hibernate, OpenJPA, CXF, OpenWebBeans, and they all have
their own rules we don't get to decide or say a word. So we want to stay
away. Tomcat, as you mentioned, has Tomcat 10.x and 10.1.x and Tomcat 11.x.
It's not the first time, there was also Tomcat 8.5.x. Some get
discontinued, some versions get added in the middle as it fits the project
and that's ok.
--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com
On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 12:18 PM COURTAULT Francois
<fr...@thalesgroup.com.invalid> wrote:
> Hello Richard,
>
> You haven't the choice right ? You have to do that: qualifying TomEE 9.x
> on Tomcat 10.1.x.
>
> In order to avoid any confusion, it could be also nice to align on the
> version meaning TomEE 10 runing Tomcat 10.1.x and TomEE 11 runing Tomcat
> 11 (M4 as of today). Just my 2 cents.
>
> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Zowalla <rz...@apache.org>
> Sent: vendredi 31 mars 2023 15:07
> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Approx. release date for TomEE 10.x
>
> Hi,
>
> we had some discussion on various lists, that we most likely cannot eol
> 9.x before having a 10.x ready - otherwise ppl won't migrate ;)
>
> The bad thing is, that Tomcat 10.0.x (targeting EE9), which is the basis
> for TomEE 9, got eol'ed by the Tomcat team and won't receive any
> security/bug fixes.
>
> We still need to figure out, if upgrading TomEE 9 to use Tomcat 10.1.x
> (targeting EE10) will have a significant impact on the EE9.1 tck results.
>
> To determine a first impact level on the tck side, we need to run the TCK
> signature tests on a TomEE 9.x build with a Tomcat 10.1.x under the covers.
>
> Any help with it is welcome.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 29.03.2023 um 12:42 +0000 schrieb
> Manuel.Gamerdinger@t-systems.com:
> > Hello TomEE users,
> >
> > is there already an approximate date when TomEE 10.x will be released?
> > I have read this thread with interest and attention. We are in the
> > process of migrating to 9.x and the question is now how long the
> > support for 9.x is given.
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/jz4y20q039cckcv436xvtgzr1ofmostj
> >
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Manuel
>
>