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Posted to wsrp4j-user@portals.apache.org by ge...@r-it.at on 2005/02/01 07:23:14 UTC
further actions in wsrp4j - project
Hi.
Does anybody know the further actions in wsrp4j-project ? Is there a
roadmap to a first release ? Does anybody know, when wsrp4j will leave
"incubator" status
and become a real apache project ?
gtx
Gerald
Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
Posted by Diego Louzán <di...@metalicana.org>.
Is it so easy as to ask for it? I have spent some time reading struts & other
apache lists and I thought that it was a «meritocracy», the main committers of
the project selected new committers. It would be an honour becoming committer
of this project and I think it would be good, because I'm spending next 6
months (at least) working with WSRP4J for my own project. I don't know if I'm
good enough to commit, but surely I'll spend some time fixing bugs every day.
Now all I have is a "patched WSRP4J" in my HD, not the cvs version. Please give
me some guidelines.
Regards.
Diego.
Julie MacNaught wrote:
> You could ask to become a committer.
>
> Diego Louzán wrote:
>
>> I understand the situation, I'm not criticizing WSRP4J, I'm only
>> showing its deficiencies in an objective manner. The problem is I
>> don't see any movement from IBM committers (who seem to have full
>> control over it), so no new committer can be added. I've seen a couple
>> of people on this list using WSRP4J and adding entries and patches in
>> JIRA, but none of these bugs is being resolved. What should one do to
>> commit changes then?
>>
>> Julie MacNaught wrote:
>>
>>> Lots of people use it, but nobody wants to work on it in public. We
>>> don't have enough non-IBM committers to go forward with a vote to
>>> graduate from the incubator. We need the committer community to grow
>>> so that the project can move forward.
>>>
>>> Diego Louzán wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, IMHO it's only a toy now. I haven't seem the IBM commercial
>>>> implementation but WSRP4J implements only a subset of the
>>>> specification and has lots of bugs, Producer Templates are not
>>>> supported, Pluto is tightly coupled with WSRP4J, ... It's good for
>>>> practicing and investigating (I'm doing my master thesis using it),
>>>> but not for a production environment.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Diego.
>>>>
>>>> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds not so good.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the experinces with wsrp4j ? Is ist yet stable enough to
>>>>> use it in
>>>>> production environment ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> diegolouzan@metalicana.org
>>>>> An:
>>>>> wsrp4j-user@ws.apache.org
>>>>> 02.02.2005 11:41
>>>>> Kopie:
>>>>> Bitte antworten an wsrp4j-user
>>>>> Blindkopie:
>>>>> Thema:
>>>>> Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been developing with wsrp4j & contributing to lists since
>>>>> september
>>>>> and no
>>>>> movement...
>>>>>
>>>>> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anybody know the further actions in wsrp4j-project ? Is there a
>>>>>> roadmap to a first release ? Does anybody know, when wsrp4j will
>>>>>> leave
>>>>>> "incubator" status
>>>>>> and become a real apache project ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gtx
>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
Posted by Julie MacNaught <jm...@apache.org>.
You could ask to become a committer.
Diego Louzán wrote:
> I understand the situation, I'm not criticizing WSRP4J, I'm only showing
> its deficiencies in an objective manner. The problem is I don't see any
> movement from IBM committers (who seem to have full control over it), so
> no new committer can be added. I've seen a couple of people on this list
> using WSRP4J and adding entries and patches in JIRA, but none of these
> bugs is being resolved. What should one do to commit changes then?
>
> Julie MacNaught wrote:
>
>> Lots of people use it, but nobody wants to work on it in public. We
>> don't have enough non-IBM committers to go forward with a vote to
>> graduate from the incubator. We need the committer community to grow
>> so that the project can move forward.
>>
>> Diego Louzán wrote:
>>
>>> No, IMHO it's only a toy now. I haven't seem the IBM commercial
>>> implementation but WSRP4J implements only a subset of the
>>> specification and has lots of bugs, Producer Templates are not
>>> supported, Pluto is tightly coupled with WSRP4J, ... It's good for
>>> practicing and investigating (I'm doing my master thesis using it),
>>> but not for a production environment.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Diego.
>>>
>>> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds not so good.
>>>>
>>>> What are the experinces with wsrp4j ? Is ist yet stable enough to
>>>> use it in
>>>> production environment ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> diegolouzan@metalicana.org
>>>> An:
>>>> wsrp4j-user@ws.apache.org
>>>> 02.02.2005 11:41
>>>> Kopie:
>>>> Bitte antworten an wsrp4j-user
>>>> Blindkopie:
>>>> Thema: Re:
>>>> further actions in wsrp4j - project
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been developing with wsrp4j & contributing to lists since
>>>> september
>>>> and no
>>>> movement...
>>>>
>>>> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody know the further actions in wsrp4j-project ? Is there a
>>>>> roadmap to a first release ? Does anybody know, when wsrp4j will leave
>>>>> "incubator" status
>>>>> and become a real apache project ?
>>>>>
>>>>> gtx
>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Julie MacNaught
IBM Research
jmacna@apache.org
jmacna@us.ibm.com
DADB E3B5 8CB7 6B9B F4A0 8BF7 E830 1848 16A8 D3AB
Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
Posted by Diego Louzán <di...@metalicana.org>.
I understand the situation, I'm not criticizing WSRP4J, I'm only showing its
deficiencies in an objective manner. The problem is I don't see any movement
from IBM committers (who seem to have full control over it), so no new
committer can be added. I've seen a couple of people on this list using WSRP4J
and adding entries and patches in JIRA, but none of these bugs is being
resolved. What should one do to commit changes then?
Julie MacNaught wrote:
> Lots of people use it, but nobody wants to work on it in public. We
> don't have enough non-IBM committers to go forward with a vote to
> graduate from the incubator. We need the committer community to grow so
> that the project can move forward.
>
> Diego Louzán wrote:
>
>> No, IMHO it's only a toy now. I haven't seem the IBM commercial
>> implementation but WSRP4J implements only a subset of the
>> specification and has lots of bugs, Producer Templates are not
>> supported, Pluto is tightly coupled with WSRP4J, ... It's good for
>> practicing and investigating (I'm doing my master thesis using it),
>> but not for a production environment.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Diego.
>>
>> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds not so good.
>>>
>>> What are the experinces with wsrp4j ? Is ist yet stable enough to use
>>> it in
>>> production environment ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> diegolouzan@metalicana.org
>>> An:
>>> wsrp4j-user@ws.apache.org
>>> 02.02.2005 11:41
>>> Kopie:
>>> Bitte antworten an wsrp4j-user
>>> Blindkopie:
>>> Thema: Re:
>>> further actions in wsrp4j - project
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been developing with wsrp4j & contributing to lists since september
>>> and no
>>> movement...
>>>
>>> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody know the further actions in wsrp4j-project ? Is there a
>>>> roadmap to a first release ? Does anybody know, when wsrp4j will leave
>>>> "incubator" status
>>>> and become a real apache project ?
>>>>
>>>> gtx
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
Posted by Julie MacNaught <jm...@apache.org>.
Lots of people use it, but nobody wants to work on it in public. We
don't have enough non-IBM committers to go forward with a vote to
graduate from the incubator. We need the committer community to grow so
that the project can move forward.
Diego Louzán wrote:
> No, IMHO it's only a toy now. I haven't seem the IBM commercial
> implementation but WSRP4J implements only a subset of the specification
> and has lots of bugs, Producer Templates are not supported, Pluto is
> tightly coupled with WSRP4J, ... It's good for practicing and
> investigating (I'm doing my master thesis using it), but not for a
> production environment.
>
> Regards.
> Diego.
>
> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>
>> Sounds not so good.
>>
>> What are the experinces with wsrp4j ? Is ist yet stable enough to use
>> it in
>> production environment ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> diegolouzan@metalicana.org
>> An:
>> wsrp4j-user@ws.apache.org
>> 02.02.2005 11:41
>> Kopie:
>> Bitte antworten an wsrp4j-user
>> Blindkopie:
>> Thema: Re:
>> further actions in wsrp4j - project
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been developing with wsrp4j & contributing to lists since september
>> and no
>> movement...
>>
>> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know the further actions in wsrp4j-project ? Is there a
>>> roadmap to a first release ? Does anybody know, when wsrp4j will leave
>>> "incubator" status
>>> and become a real apache project ?
>>>
>>> gtx
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
Julie MacNaught
IBM Research
jmacna@apache.org
jmacna@us.ibm.com
DADB E3B5 8CB7 6B9B F4A0 8BF7 E830 1848 16A8 D3AB
Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
Posted by Diego Louzán <di...@metalicana.org>.
No, IMHO it's only a toy now. I haven't seem the IBM commercial implementation
but WSRP4J implements only a subset of the specification and has lots of bugs,
Producer Templates are not supported, Pluto is tightly coupled with WSRP4J, ...
It's good for practicing and investigating (I'm doing my master thesis using
it), but not for a production environment.
Regards.
Diego.
gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
> Sounds not so good.
>
> What are the experinces with wsrp4j ? Is ist yet stable enough to use it in
> production environment ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> diegolouzan@metalicana.org
> An: wsrp4j-user@ws.apache.org
> 02.02.2005 11:41 Kopie:
> Bitte antworten an wsrp4j-user Blindkopie:
> Thema: Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
>
>
>
>
>
> I've been developing with wsrp4j & contributing to lists since september
> and no
> movement...
>
> gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
>
>>Hi.
>>
>>Does anybody know the further actions in wsrp4j-project ? Is there a
>>roadmap to a first release ? Does anybody know, when wsrp4j will leave
>>"incubator" status
>>and become a real apache project ?
>>
>>gtx
>>Gerald
>>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
Posted by ge...@r-it.at.
Sounds not so good.
What are the experinces with wsrp4j ? Is ist yet stable enough to use it in
production environment ?
diegolouzan@metalicana.org
An: wsrp4j-user@ws.apache.org
02.02.2005 11:41 Kopie:
Bitte antworten an wsrp4j-user Blindkopie:
Thema: Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
I've been developing with wsrp4j & contributing to lists since september
and no
movement...
gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Does anybody know the further actions in wsrp4j-project ? Is there a
> roadmap to a first release ? Does anybody know, when wsrp4j will leave
> "incubator" status
> and become a real apache project ?
>
> gtx
> Gerald
>
Re: further actions in wsrp4j - project
Posted by Diego Louzán <di...@metalicana.org>.
I've been developing with wsrp4j & contributing to lists since september and no
movement...
gerald.kahrer@r-it.at wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Does anybody know the further actions in wsrp4j-project ? Is there a
> roadmap to a first release ? Does anybody know, when wsrp4j will leave
> "incubator" status
> and become a real apache project ?
>
> gtx
> Gerald
>