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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Christopher <ct...@apache.org> on 2016/08/05 22:44:18 UTC
SVN dist question
IPMC,
Can anybody clarify the right location for releases and release candidates
in dist.apache.org while in incubator?
A: For release candidates, would it be:
A1: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/fluo
or
A2: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/fluo
?
B: For releases, is it:
B1: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/fluo
or
B2: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/fluo
?
If the answer for question B is B1, then would releases move to B2 upon
graduation? Or stay in B1 until the first non-incubating release?
I *think* the right answer for A is "doesn't matter", and the right answer
for B is B2, but if that's the case, I'm not sure why /release/incubator
exists.
Thanks for any clarification.
Re: SVN dist question
Posted by Christopher <ct...@apache.org>.
Thank you. Very helpful.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016, 20:57 Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Yes, that's correct.
>
> All projects (incubating or graduated) remove old releases from
> dist/release. See
> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#when-to-archive.
>
> Julian
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Christopher <ct...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:52 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> It’s A1 and B1. By the time you graduate, the old releases will have
> moved
> >> to archive.apache.org/repos/dist/incubator/fluo <
> >> http://archive.apache.org/repos/dist/incubator/fluo>, but same problem.
> >> Incubator releases are not “proper" Apache releases, do not necessarily
> >> meet the high standard expected of Apache releases, so it’s appropriate
> >> that they are forever labeled as not-quite-pristine.
> >>
> >>
> > Thanks. That helps.
> >
> > Just to be clear, I imagine there is often a point of time right after
> > graduation, where only incubating releases exist. The new TLP should
> *NOT*
> > move these from their location in dist/release/incubator (even though
> they
> > still have -incubating in their name), but should instead leave them
> there.
> > Then, when they release their first non-incubating release, they should
> put
> > that in their own dist/release/myNewTLP and remove the incubating
> releases
> > so they are only available in the archive. Is that correct?
>
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Re: SVN dist question
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
Yes, that's correct.
All projects (incubating or graduated) remove old releases from
dist/release. See
http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#when-to-archive.
Julian
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Christopher <ct...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:52 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> It’s A1 and B1. By the time you graduate, the old releases will have moved
>> to archive.apache.org/repos/dist/incubator/fluo <
>> http://archive.apache.org/repos/dist/incubator/fluo>, but same problem.
>> Incubator releases are not “proper" Apache releases, do not necessarily
>> meet the high standard expected of Apache releases, so it’s appropriate
>> that they are forever labeled as not-quite-pristine.
>>
>>
> Thanks. That helps.
>
> Just to be clear, I imagine there is often a point of time right after
> graduation, where only incubating releases exist. The new TLP should *NOT*
> move these from their location in dist/release/incubator (even though they
> still have -incubating in their name), but should instead leave them there.
> Then, when they release their first non-incubating release, they should put
> that in their own dist/release/myNewTLP and remove the incubating releases
> so they are only available in the archive. Is that correct?
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Re: SVN dist question
Posted by Christopher <ct...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:52 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> It’s A1 and B1. By the time you graduate, the old releases will have moved
> to archive.apache.org/repos/dist/incubator/fluo <
> http://archive.apache.org/repos/dist/incubator/fluo>, but same problem.
> Incubator releases are not “proper" Apache releases, do not necessarily
> meet the high standard expected of Apache releases, so it’s appropriate
> that they are forever labeled as not-quite-pristine.
>
>
Thanks. That helps.
Just to be clear, I imagine there is often a point of time right after
graduation, where only incubating releases exist. The new TLP should *NOT*
move these from their location in dist/release/incubator (even though they
still have -incubating in their name), but should instead leave them there.
Then, when they release their first non-incubating release, they should put
that in their own dist/release/myNewTLP and remove the incubating releases
so they are only available in the archive. Is that correct?
Re: SVN dist question
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
It’s A1 and B1. By the time you graduate, the old releases will have moved to archive.apache.org/repos/dist/incubator/fluo <http://archive.apache.org/repos/dist/incubator/fluo>, but same problem. Incubator releases are not “proper" Apache releases, do not necessarily meet the high standard expected of Apache releases, so it’s appropriate that they are forever labeled as not-quite-pristine.
For a concrete example, see http://calcite.apache.org/downloads/ <http://calcite.apache.org/downloads/> and mouse over the ‘tar’ links.
Julian
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Christopher <ct...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> IPMC,
>
> Can anybody clarify the right location for releases and release candidates
> in dist.apache.org while in incubator?
>
> A: For release candidates, would it be:
> A1: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/fluo
> or
> A2: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/fluo
> ?
>
> B: For releases, is it:
> B1: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/fluo
> or
> B2: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/fluo
> ?
>
> If the answer for question B is B1, then would releases move to B2 upon
> graduation? Or stay in B1 until the first non-incubating release?
>
> I *think* the right answer for A is "doesn't matter", and the right answer
> for B is B2, but if that's the case, I'm not sure why /release/incubator
> exists.
>
> Thanks for any clarification.