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Posted to users@servicemix.apache.org by Chris Jölly <ch...@unycom.com> on 2009/07/02 16:15:26 UTC
Integrating / evaluating servicemix
Hello all,
I have some questions regarding the efforts needed to integrate servicemix
into an application and how much time is needed to get the first results
when e.g. connecting servicemix via web services to an SOAP adapter of
an SAP XI system.
What I want to do is to evaluate some of this integration platforms and
compare each other. Sure, this efforts depends on the skills of the developers
and the concrete use cases, but someone who uses servicemix could possible
give a rough figure for this efforts which is sufficient for my needs by now. J
And, maybe someone has evaluated other tools like Swordfish or Mule and
has figures for these platforms too?
thanks, Chris
Re: Integrating / evaluating servicemix
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Chris,
sorry for my late answer.
In your case, if you can deploy a WebService on your SAP platform, you
can create a HTTP provider in SMX and contact this service.
It's very simple and mainly configuration based (in the xbean.xml if you
use the JBI packaging).
The main workload will be in the message transformation between the in
message and the backend component endpoint.
It's not easy to provide a real days man amount :)
For example, if you use a servicemix-bean based endpoint behind your
HTTP provider, you need to get the in message extract content as you
expect and fire some actions.
Regards
JB
Chris Jölly wrote:
> Hi JB,
>
> thanks for your reply and clarification :-) The ESB world is rather
> huge, that’s basically the reason why I'm asking of the efforts evaluating
> these technologies...
>
> So, if I use servicemix as our integration layer, and I have to export
> our business objects to foreign systems like SAP Purchasing, SAP CRM, SAP
> SRM, SAP BW and so on, or trigger external workflows like PO sign-off,
> I have to transform our business objects to a format servicemix is able to
> process. And I have to configure servicemix for the message routing to
> the correct external business application using ServiceMix HTTP or CXF BC?
>
> So, back to my first question: how much effort should I expect to get a
> usable integration layer for let's say one - very famous :) - use case,
> creating PO in SAP, up and running?
>
> Regards
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 02. Juli 2009 17:42
> To: users@servicemix.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Integrating / evaluating servicemix
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> first of all, basicly, I think that the purpose of ServiceMix is not to
> be integrate in one application. The ESBs like ServiceMix are mostly
> made to integrate several applications (using different media channel)
> via a kind of backbone: the ESB.
>
> Nevertheless, ServiceMix can be a new module of your application,
> dedicated to the integration layer. In this case, you are responsible of
> exposing your business service into ServiceMix and the integration needs
> will be put into ServiceMix.
>
> In your case, if the SAP XI system provides a SOAP URI to you, you can
> use the ServiceMix HTTP or CXF BC to post and get message to/from SAP.
>
> I have made the same investigation as you. It was two years ago and I
> have benchmarked:
> - SMX
> - OpenESB
> - Mule
> Each have skills and issues. I have made the choice of ServiceMix and
> begin to contribute on it. So I think that you have my point of view on
> this topic :)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Chris Jölly wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have some questions regarding the efforts needed to integrate servicemix
>>
>> into an application and how much time is needed to get the first results
>>
>> when e.g. connecting servicemix via web services to an SOAP adapter of
>>
>> an SAP XI system.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I want to do is to evaluate some of this integration platforms and
>>
>> compare each other. Sure, this efforts depends on the skills of the developers
>>
>> and the concrete use cases, but someone who uses servicemix could possible
>>
>> give a rough figure for this efforts which is sufficient for my needs by now. J
>>
>>
>>
>> And, maybe someone has evaluated other tools like Swordfish or Mule and
>>
>> has figures for these platforms too?
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks, Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Integrating / evaluating servicemix
Posted by Chris Jölly <ch...@unycom.com>.
Hi JB,
thanks for your reply and clarification :-) The ESB world is rather
huge, that’s basically the reason why I'm asking of the efforts evaluating
these technologies...
So, if I use servicemix as our integration layer, and I have to export
our business objects to foreign systems like SAP Purchasing, SAP CRM, SAP
SRM, SAP BW and so on, or trigger external workflows like PO sign-off,
I have to transform our business objects to a format servicemix is able to
process. And I have to configure servicemix for the message routing to
the correct external business application using ServiceMix HTTP or CXF BC?
So, back to my first question: how much effort should I expect to get a
usable integration layer for let's say one - very famous :) - use case,
creating PO in SAP, up and running?
Regards
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:jb@nanthrax.net]
Sent: Donnerstag, 02. Juli 2009 17:42
To: users@servicemix.apache.org
Subject: Re: Integrating / evaluating servicemix
Hi Chris,
first of all, basicly, I think that the purpose of ServiceMix is not to
be integrate in one application. The ESBs like ServiceMix are mostly
made to integrate several applications (using different media channel)
via a kind of backbone: the ESB.
Nevertheless, ServiceMix can be a new module of your application,
dedicated to the integration layer. In this case, you are responsible of
exposing your business service into ServiceMix and the integration needs
will be put into ServiceMix.
In your case, if the SAP XI system provides a SOAP URI to you, you can
use the ServiceMix HTTP or CXF BC to post and get message to/from SAP.
I have made the same investigation as you. It was two years ago and I
have benchmarked:
- SMX
- OpenESB
- Mule
Each have skills and issues. I have made the choice of ServiceMix and
begin to contribute on it. So I think that you have my point of view on
this topic :)
Regards
JB
Chris Jölly wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I have some questions regarding the efforts needed to integrate servicemix
>
> into an application and how much time is needed to get the first results
>
> when e.g. connecting servicemix via web services to an SOAP adapter of
>
> an SAP XI system.
>
>
>
> What I want to do is to evaluate some of this integration platforms and
>
> compare each other. Sure, this efforts depends on the skills of the developers
>
> and the concrete use cases, but someone who uses servicemix could possible
>
> give a rough figure for this efforts which is sufficient for my needs by now. J
>
>
>
> And, maybe someone has evaluated other tools like Swordfish or Mule and
>
> has figures for these platforms too?
>
>
>
> thanks, Chris
>
>
>
>
Re: Integrating / evaluating servicemix
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Chris,
first of all, basicly, I think that the purpose of ServiceMix is not to
be integrate in one application. The ESBs like ServiceMix are mostly
made to integrate several applications (using different media channel)
via a kind of backbone: the ESB.
Nevertheless, ServiceMix can be a new module of your application,
dedicated to the integration layer. In this case, you are responsible of
exposing your business service into ServiceMix and the integration needs
will be put into ServiceMix.
In your case, if the SAP XI system provides a SOAP URI to you, you can
use the ServiceMix HTTP or CXF BC to post and get message to/from SAP.
I have made the same investigation as you. It was two years ago and I
have benchmarked:
- SMX
- OpenESB
- Mule
Each have skills and issues. I have made the choice of ServiceMix and
begin to contribute on it. So I think that you have my point of view on
this topic :)
Regards
JB
Chris Jölly wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I have some questions regarding the efforts needed to integrate servicemix
>
> into an application and how much time is needed to get the first results
>
> when e.g. connecting servicemix via web services to an SOAP adapter of
>
> an SAP XI system.
>
>
>
> What I want to do is to evaluate some of this integration platforms and
>
> compare each other. Sure, this efforts depends on the skills of the developers
>
> and the concrete use cases, but someone who uses servicemix could possible
>
> give a rough figure for this efforts which is sufficient for my needs by now. J
>
>
>
> And, maybe someone has evaluated other tools like Swordfish or Mule and
>
> has figures for these platforms too?
>
>
>
> thanks, Chris
>
>
>
>