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Incubator voting status page
A while ago I proposed we should have a status page showing current
pending votes.
To this end I've begun writing a simple script that parses the
general@incubator Atom feed from Markmail and creates a static web page
with information gleaned from there (it keeps longer-term data in a
SQLite database).
The script is here:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/incuvoter
and the current results are here:
http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator-votes.html
That page (should) get updated every 4 hours. It will also list closed
votes up to 30 days old.
There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having
a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term
and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using
the current month's worth of data from Markmail.
Eventually I'd like to integrate this into the incubator pages, and add
logic to the scripts so they'd yell at general@incubator if votes are
overdue.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Thats cool. I have something like that in mind before a couple of
days. Now its here. Its like Christmas. Thank you.
Our tool "Marvin" sens out mails for reports already; maybe it can be
used for reminders to vote too. If you find the code of Marvin, pls
let me know. I wanted to change the recipients of the reminders to
general@. But I haven't had so much time recently and didn't find
Marvin quickly
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> A while ago I proposed we should have a status page showing current
> pending votes.
>
> To this end I've begun writing a simple script that parses the
> general@incubator Atom feed from Markmail and creates a static web page
> with information gleaned from there (it keeps longer-term data in a
> SQLite database).
>
> The script is here:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/incuvoter
>
> and the current results are here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator-votes.html
>
> That page (should) get updated every 4 hours. It will also list closed
> votes up to 30 days old.
>
> There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having
> a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term
> and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using
> the current month's worth of data from Markmail.
>
> Eventually I'd like to integrate this into the incubator pages, and add
> logic to the scripts so they'd yell at general@incubator if votes are
> overdue.
>
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 02.02.2013 19:05, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 18:06:11 +0100:
>> On 02.02.2013 16:29, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 11:01:42 +0100:
>>>> I'm all for moving this from minotaur to whimsy, and do suggest we
>>> whimsy doesn't have the public-arch tree locally.
>> Thanks for reminding me again ... silly me.
>>
>>>> change the incubator.a.o server config so that the votes table can be
>>>> fetched from there.
>>>>
>>> Not specific enough to comment on. (Change how?)
>> Either:
>>
>> LoadModule headers_module /.../mod_headers.so
>>
>> I've already put the following in the .htaccess file:
>>
>> <IfModule mod_headers.c>
>> # Allow remote content from people.apache.org in order to fetch vote status
>> Header set Access-Control-Allow-Origin "http://people.apache.org"
>> </IfModule>
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> ProxyPass /remote/embedded-votes.html http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/embedded-votes.html
>>
>> and I'll change the URL of the generated table in votes.xml.
>>
>> A simple redirect will of course not work, as it triggers the same
>> access restriction. The proxy solution doesn't open the door as wide,
>> but I expect it's slightly more expensive than adding a header to the
>> response. Either way should work.
> Thanks for the config snippets, but my opinion is unchanged: if this is
> to be available via http://incubator.apache.org/, it should get
> committed somewhere. (This will be consistent with how every docroot on
> the www box works) For your use-case it would be ok have a cron'd
> buildbot job that commits directly to the production tree --- that's how
> the twitter feed on www.apache.org gets updated.
>
> The alternative would be to leave the code on people.a.o or add some
> "rsync minotaur:public-arch/ ./" calls and move it to whimsy.
>
> Or feel free to ask site-dev@ or infra@ for other opinions.
I solved it by removing the embedded page and leaving only the
standalone one. I've spent too much time on this as it is. If anyone
wants to pick it up, they can
svn merge -c-1441791 ^/incubator/public/trunk
and take it from there.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 18:06:11 +0100:
> On 02.02.2013 16:29, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 11:01:42 +0100:
> >> I'm all for moving this from minotaur to whimsy, and do suggest we
> > whimsy doesn't have the public-arch tree locally.
>
> Thanks for reminding me again ... silly me.
>
> >> change the incubator.a.o server config so that the votes table can be
> >> fetched from there.
> >>
> > Not specific enough to comment on. (Change how?)
>
> Either:
>
> LoadModule headers_module /.../mod_headers.so
>
> I've already put the following in the .htaccess file:
>
> <IfModule mod_headers.c>
> # Allow remote content from people.apache.org in order to fetch vote status
> Header set Access-Control-Allow-Origin "http://people.apache.org"
> </IfModule>
>
> Or:
>
> ProxyPass /remote/embedded-votes.html http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/embedded-votes.html
>
> and I'll change the URL of the generated table in votes.xml.
>
> A simple redirect will of course not work, as it triggers the same
> access restriction. The proxy solution doesn't open the door as wide,
> but I expect it's slightly more expensive than adding a header to the
> response. Either way should work.
Thanks for the config snippets, but my opinion is unchanged: if this is
to be available via http://incubator.apache.org/, it should get
committed somewhere. (This will be consistent with how every docroot on
the www box works) For your use-case it would be ok have a cron'd
buildbot job that commits directly to the production tree --- that's how
the twitter feed on www.apache.org gets updated.
The alternative would be to leave the code on people.a.o or add some
"rsync minotaur:public-arch/ ./" calls and move it to whimsy.
Or feel free to ask site-dev@ or infra@ for other opinions.
Daniel
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 02.02.2013 16:29, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 11:01:42 +0100:
>> I'm all for moving this from minotaur to whimsy, and do suggest we
> whimsy doesn't have the public-arch tree locally.
Thanks for reminding me again ... silly me.
>> change the incubator.a.o server config so that the votes table can be
>> fetched from there.
>>
> Not specific enough to comment on. (Change how?)
Either:
LoadModule headers_module /.../mod_headers.so
I've already put the following in the .htaccess file:
<IfModule mod_headers.c>
# Allow remote content from people.apache.org in order to fetch vote status
Header set Access-Control-Allow-Origin "http://people.apache.org"
</IfModule>
Or:
ProxyPass /remote/embedded-votes.html http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/embedded-votes.html
and I'll change the URL of the generated table in votes.xml.
A simple redirect will of course not work, as it triggers the same
access restriction. The proxy solution doesn't open the door as wide,
but I expect it's slightly more expensive than adding a header to the
response. Either way should work.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 11:01:42 +0100:
> On 01.02.2013 18:05, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:29:45 +0100:
> >> I think updating the httpd config is the more realistic option, since it
> >> doesn't presume a ssh tunnel between minotaur and the site server.
> > The only supported way to get content to the web servers is to commit it
> > to svn and have svnpubsub pull it to them.
> >
> > So, just have a cronjob on minotaur commit the changes. You can get
> > a username+password for that by asking.
>
> Surely it doesn't make sense to commit this transient table. If I wanted
> that, I'd be generating (and committing) all of content/votes.xml
> instead. But I really think the voting status page should be updated
> more often than once a day, hence the current architecture that doesn't
> depend on incubator site updated.
>
> I'm all for moving this from minotaur to whimsy, and do suggest we
whimsy doesn't have the public-arch tree locally.
> change the incubator.a.o server config so that the votes table can be
> fetched from there.
>
Not specific enough to comment on. (Change how?)
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 1 February 2013 17:05, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:29:45 +0100:
>> I think updating the httpd config is the more realistic option, since it
>> doesn't presume a ssh tunnel between minotaur and the site server.
>
> The only supported way to get content to the web servers is to commit it
> to svn and have svnpubsub pull it to them.
>
> So, just have a cronjob on minotaur commit the changes. You can get
> a username+password for that by asking.
It's going to be awkward to maintain long-term if the crontab runs in
a personal account.
There's already a regular crontab in apsite (used to create people and
projects).
Would it be worth extending that - or adding another job - and have
that commit the file?
Alternatively, is there a buildbot for building the incubator website?
I thought it ran daily even if there were no SVN changes?
BTW, seems to me that a daily scan of the mailing lists would be enough.
There's no need to do it every few hours, as the recent messages
should be fresh in people's minds.
It's the longer term ignored votes that are important.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 01.02.2013 18:05, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:29:45 +0100:
>> I think updating the httpd config is the more realistic option, since it
>> doesn't presume a ssh tunnel between minotaur and the site server.
> The only supported way to get content to the web servers is to commit it
> to svn and have svnpubsub pull it to them.
>
> So, just have a cronjob on minotaur commit the changes. You can get
> a username+password for that by asking.
Surely it doesn't make sense to commit this transient table. If I wanted
that, I'd be generating (and committing) all of content/votes.xml
instead. But I really think the voting status page should be updated
more often than once a day, hence the current architecture that doesn't
depend on incubator site updated.
I'm all for moving this from minotaur to whimsy, and do suggest we
change the incubator.a.o server config so that the votes table can be
fetched from there.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 17:29:45 +0100:
> I think updating the httpd config is the more realistic option, since it
> doesn't presume a ssh tunnel between minotaur and the site server.
The only supported way to get content to the web servers is to commit it
to svn and have svnpubsub pull it to them.
So, just have a cronjob on minotaur commit the changes. You can get
a username+password for that by asking.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 1 February 2013 19:48, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 February 2013 16:29, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 01.02.2013 17:01, sebb wrote:
>>> On 1 February 2013 10:29, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 31.01.2013 17:18, Branko Čibej wrote:
>>>>> On 31.01.2013 16:51, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>>>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100:
>>>>>>> I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
>>>>>>> probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
>>>>>>> know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
>>>>>> The first issue I see is that your script assumes it has local access to
>>>>>> the public-arch tree, so it can only run on minotaur (or on the
>>>>>> mail-archives.a.o box).
>>>>> Ah, that's a good enough point for doing the dynamic-include thing.
>>>>> Initially I thought I'd be downloading the mboxes from mail-archives,
>>>>> but ... local access is soo much faster and easier.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll make it work as Christian suggested then.
>>>> And it's done. An embedded status page is created on minotaur and
>>>> dynamically embedded into the new vote status page. There are only two
>>>> issues:
>>>>
>>>> * It'll take a while for this to show up, since the incubator site
>>>> refreshes once a day (?); in the meantime, the embedded status link
>>>> will be dead.
>>> It updates immediately, provided that you publish any changes.
>>>
>>>> * The embedded content gets loaded from people.apache.org, not
>>>> incubator.apache.org; AIUI that'll cause browsers to portend
>>>> disaster and in some cases refuse to load the vote status. This
>>>> should be fixed, suggestions welcome.
>>> The use of target=_blank causes a new window to created each time the
>>> link is clicked; that seems wrong.
>>
>> Yes, I just noticed that; copy-paste bug from the standalone page link,
>> will fix.
>>
>>> Also, it does not work in Firefox. Or Chrome. Or Opera. Or IE.
>>
>> That's caused by the the access control constraints, as I point out in
>> the text you quoted. I tried circumventing that in .htaccess, but the
>> incubator site config doesn't load mod_headers, so that won't help.
>
> However, in that case surely it ought to display an error message?
>
> There is some code that looks as though it tries to report the error:
>
> if (fragment_loader.status != 200)
> html = "<p>Content is not available</p>";
> else {
> container = document.getElementById("voter").parentNode;
> container.innerHTML = fragment_loader.responseText;
> }
>
> That looks wrong - why is the error written to a different variable?
> Should it not be something like:
>
> container = document.getElementById("voter").parentNode;
> if (fragment_loader.status != 200) {
> container.innerHTML = "<p>Content is not available</p>";
> } else {
> container.innerHTML = fragment_loader.responseText;
> }
Fixed.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 01.02.2013 20:48, sebb wrote:
> On 1 February 2013 16:29, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 01.02.2013 17:01, sebb wrote:
>>> On 1 February 2013 10:29, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 31.01.2013 17:18, Branko Čibej wrote:
>>>>> On 31.01.2013 16:51, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>>>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100:
>>>>>>> I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
>>>>>>> probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
>>>>>>> know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
>>>>>> The first issue I see is that your script assumes it has local access to
>>>>>> the public-arch tree, so it can only run on minotaur (or on the
>>>>>> mail-archives.a.o box).
>>>>> Ah, that's a good enough point for doing the dynamic-include thing.
>>>>> Initially I thought I'd be downloading the mboxes from mail-archives,
>>>>> but ... local access is soo much faster and easier.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll make it work as Christian suggested then.
>>>> And it's done. An embedded status page is created on minotaur and
>>>> dynamically embedded into the new vote status page. There are only two
>>>> issues:
>>>>
>>>> * It'll take a while for this to show up, since the incubator site
>>>> refreshes once a day (?); in the meantime, the embedded status link
>>>> will be dead.
>>> It updates immediately, provided that you publish any changes.
>>>
>>>> * The embedded content gets loaded from people.apache.org, not
>>>> incubator.apache.org; AIUI that'll cause browsers to portend
>>>> disaster and in some cases refuse to load the vote status. This
>>>> should be fixed, suggestions welcome.
>>> The use of target=_blank causes a new window to created each time the
>>> link is clicked; that seems wrong.
>> Yes, I just noticed that; copy-paste bug from the standalone page link,
>> will fix.
>>
>>> Also, it does not work in Firefox. Or Chrome. Or Opera. Or IE.
>> That's caused by the the access control constraints, as I point out in
>> the text you quoted. I tried circumventing that in .htaccess, but the
>> incubator site config doesn't load mod_headers, so that won't help.
> However, in that case surely it ought to display an error message?
>
> There is some code that looks as though it tries to report the error:
>
> if (fragment_loader.status != 200)
> html = "<p>Content is not available</p>";
> else {
> container = document.getElementById("voter").parentNode;
> container.innerHTML = fragment_loader.responseText;
> }
>
> That looks wrong - why is the error written to a different variable?
Meh, another bug. Thanks for catching it and fixing it.
(Apparently I'm not at my best these days ... only this morning I
started wondering why that error message wasn't showing up. Sigh.)
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 1 February 2013 16:29, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 01.02.2013 17:01, sebb wrote:
>> On 1 February 2013 10:29, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 31.01.2013 17:18, Branko Čibej wrote:
>>>> On 31.01.2013 16:51, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100:
>>>>>> I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
>>>>>> probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
>>>>>> know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
>>>>> The first issue I see is that your script assumes it has local access to
>>>>> the public-arch tree, so it can only run on minotaur (or on the
>>>>> mail-archives.a.o box).
>>>> Ah, that's a good enough point for doing the dynamic-include thing.
>>>> Initially I thought I'd be downloading the mboxes from mail-archives,
>>>> but ... local access is soo much faster and easier.
>>>>
>>>> I'll make it work as Christian suggested then.
>>> And it's done. An embedded status page is created on minotaur and
>>> dynamically embedded into the new vote status page. There are only two
>>> issues:
>>>
>>> * It'll take a while for this to show up, since the incubator site
>>> refreshes once a day (?); in the meantime, the embedded status link
>>> will be dead.
>> It updates immediately, provided that you publish any changes.
>>
>>> * The embedded content gets loaded from people.apache.org, not
>>> incubator.apache.org; AIUI that'll cause browsers to portend
>>> disaster and in some cases refuse to load the vote status. This
>>> should be fixed, suggestions welcome.
>> The use of target=_blank causes a new window to created each time the
>> link is clicked; that seems wrong.
>
> Yes, I just noticed that; copy-paste bug from the standalone page link,
> will fix.
>
>> Also, it does not work in Firefox. Or Chrome. Or Opera. Or IE.
>
> That's caused by the the access control constraints, as I point out in
> the text you quoted. I tried circumventing that in .htaccess, but the
> incubator site config doesn't load mod_headers, so that won't help.
However, in that case surely it ought to display an error message?
There is some code that looks as though it tries to report the error:
if (fragment_loader.status != 200)
html = "<p>Content is not available</p>";
else {
container = document.getElementById("voter").parentNode;
container.innerHTML = fragment_loader.responseText;
}
That looks wrong - why is the error written to a different variable?
Should it not be something like:
container = document.getElementById("voter").parentNode;
if (fragment_loader.status != 200) {
container.innerHTML = "<p>Content is not available</p>";
} else {
container.innerHTML = fragment_loader.responseText;
}
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 01.02.2013 17:01, sebb wrote:
> On 1 February 2013 10:29, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 31.01.2013 17:18, Branko Čibej wrote:
>>> On 31.01.2013 16:51, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100:
>>>>> I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
>>>>> probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
>>>>> know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
>>>> The first issue I see is that your script assumes it has local access to
>>>> the public-arch tree, so it can only run on minotaur (or on the
>>>> mail-archives.a.o box).
>>> Ah, that's a good enough point for doing the dynamic-include thing.
>>> Initially I thought I'd be downloading the mboxes from mail-archives,
>>> but ... local access is soo much faster and easier.
>>>
>>> I'll make it work as Christian suggested then.
>> And it's done. An embedded status page is created on minotaur and
>> dynamically embedded into the new vote status page. There are only two
>> issues:
>>
>> * It'll take a while for this to show up, since the incubator site
>> refreshes once a day (?); in the meantime, the embedded status link
>> will be dead.
> It updates immediately, provided that you publish any changes.
>
>> * The embedded content gets loaded from people.apache.org, not
>> incubator.apache.org; AIUI that'll cause browsers to portend
>> disaster and in some cases refuse to load the vote status. This
>> should be fixed, suggestions welcome.
> The use of target=_blank causes a new window to created each time the
> link is clicked; that seems wrong.
Yes, I just noticed that; copy-paste bug from the standalone page link,
will fix.
> Also, it does not work in Firefox. Or Chrome. Or Opera. Or IE.
That's caused by the the access control constraints, as I point out in
the text you quoted. I tried circumventing that in .htaccess, but the
incubator site config doesn't load mod_headers, so that won't help.
We'll either have to change the httpd config for that site -- load
mod_headers, or set up a proxy to the real status page --or come up with
a way to copy the updated status page directly from minotaur to the live
site.
I think updating the httpd config is the more realistic option, since it
doesn't presume a ssh tunnel between minotaur and the site server.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 1 February 2013 10:29, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 31.01.2013 17:18, Branko Čibej wrote:
>> On 31.01.2013 16:51, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100:
>>>> I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
>>>> probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
>>>> know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
>>> The first issue I see is that your script assumes it has local access to
>>> the public-arch tree, so it can only run on minotaur (or on the
>>> mail-archives.a.o box).
>> Ah, that's a good enough point for doing the dynamic-include thing.
>> Initially I thought I'd be downloading the mboxes from mail-archives,
>> but ... local access is soo much faster and easier.
>>
>> I'll make it work as Christian suggested then.
>
> And it's done. An embedded status page is created on minotaur and
> dynamically embedded into the new vote status page. There are only two
> issues:
>
> * It'll take a while for this to show up, since the incubator site
> refreshes once a day (?); in the meantime, the embedded status link
> will be dead.
It updates immediately, provided that you publish any changes.
> * The embedded content gets loaded from people.apache.org, not
> incubator.apache.org; AIUI that'll cause browsers to portend
> disaster and in some cases refuse to load the vote status. This
> should be fixed, suggestions welcome.
The use of target=_blank causes a new window to created each time the
link is clicked; that seems wrong.
Also, it does not work in Firefox. Or Chrome. Or Opera. Or IE.
> In the meantime I managed to speed up mbox parsing by several orders of
> magnitude, so I now update the status page once every hour.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 31.01.2013 17:18, Branko Čibej wrote:
> On 31.01.2013 16:51, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100:
>>> I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
>>> probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
>>> know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
>> The first issue I see is that your script assumes it has local access to
>> the public-arch tree, so it can only run on minotaur (or on the
>> mail-archives.a.o box).
> Ah, that's a good enough point for doing the dynamic-include thing.
> Initially I thought I'd be downloading the mboxes from mail-archives,
> but ... local access is soo much faster and easier.
>
> I'll make it work as Christian suggested then.
And it's done. An embedded status page is created on minotaur and
dynamically embedded into the new vote status page. There are only two
issues:
* It'll take a while for this to show up, since the incubator site
refreshes once a day (?); in the meantime, the embedded status link
will be dead.
* The embedded content gets loaded from people.apache.org, not
incubator.apache.org; AIUI that'll cause browsers to portend
disaster and in some cases refuse to load the vote status. This
should be fixed, suggestions welcome.
In the meantime I managed to speed up mbox parsing by several orders of
magnitude, so I now update the status page once every hour.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 31.01.2013 16:51, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100:
>> I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
>> probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
>> know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
> The first issue I see is that your script assumes it has local access to
> the public-arch tree, so it can only run on minotaur (or on the
> mail-archives.a.o box).
Ah, that's a good enough point for doing the dynamic-include thing.
Initially I thought I'd be downloading the mboxes from mail-archives,
but ... local access is soo much faster and easier.
I'll make it work as Christian suggested then.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 16:40:14 +0100:
> I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
> probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
> know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
The first issue I see is that your script assumes it has local access to
the public-arch tree, so it can only run on minotaur (or on the
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 31.01.2013 15:12, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 31.01.2013 10:59, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
>>>> preview at
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
>>>>
>>>> By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
>>>> The page is updated every 4 hours.
>>> It looks very cool.
>>>
>>> What if whimsy would generate the html and we would "include" it with
>>> a small javascript snipped? I can provide such a snippet, if wanted
>> Personally I'd rather have whatever process is updating the regular
>> Incubator site create the vote status page in-place. I added a separate
>> target to the Ant build file specifically for that purpose -- so that
>> only that page can be updated without affecting the rest of the site,
>> and therefore this can be done more often than once a day.
> So you would commit this page all four hours automatically?
Not at all. Notice that the embedded example is /not/ the real incubator
site but a copy in my homedir on minotaur. The idea is obviously to not
commit either the generated XML template, nor the even-more-generated
HTML file.
>> That way you don't have to keep track of stylesheet changes, etc.
> The same is true for including a HTML snipped. I am speaking of
> including the raw table only and leave the formatting to the main
> incubator page.
> however, if you like to do it otherwise go for it. Every saved minute
> is good for me :-)
Most of the rest of the site is nice and static. It'd be a shame not to
keep it so.
I guess it's best if I ping infra and ask about getting this done (or
probably file an INFRA ticket). Infra are also in the best position to
know if we can have the page regenerated more often, e.g., once an hour.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 31.01.2013 10:59, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
>>> preview at
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
>>>
>>> By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
>>> The page is updated every 4 hours.
>> It looks very cool.
>>
>> What if whimsy would generate the html and we would "include" it with
>> a small javascript snipped? I can provide such a snippet, if wanted
>
> Personally I'd rather have whatever process is updating the regular
> Incubator site create the vote status page in-place. I added a separate
> target to the Ant build file specifically for that purpose -- so that
> only that page can be updated without affecting the rest of the site,
> and therefore this can be done more often than once a day.
So you would commit this page all four hours automatically?
> That way you don't have to keep track of stylesheet changes, etc.
The same is true for including a HTML snipped. I am speaking of
including the raw table only and leave the formatting to the main
incubator page.
however, if you like to do it otherwise go for it. Every saved minute
is good for me :-)
Cheers
Christian
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 31.01.2013 10:59, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
>> preview at
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
>>
>> By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
>> The page is updated every 4 hours.
> It looks very cool.
>
> What if whimsy would generate the html and we would "include" it with
> a small javascript snipped? I can provide such a snippet, if wanted
Personally I'd rather have whatever process is updating the regular
Incubator site create the vote status page in-place. I added a separate
target to the Ant build file specifically for that purpose -- so that
only that page can be updated without affecting the rest of the site,
and therefore this can be done more often than once a day.
That way you don't have to keep track of stylesheet changes, etc.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
> preview at
>
> http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
>
> By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
> The page is updated every 4 hours.
It looks very cool.
What if whimsy would generate the html and we would "include" it with
a small javascript snipped? I can provide such a snippet, if wanted
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
FWIW, I am definitively +1 to have it included in the incubator site
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
> preview at
>
> http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
>
> By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
> The page is updated every 4 hours.
>
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 31.01.2013 14:13, Branko Čibej wrote:
> On 31.01.2013 11:02, sebb wrote:
>> On 31 January 2013 07:55, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
>>> preview at
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
>>>
>>> By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
>>> The page is updated every 4 hours.
>> Looks good, but I think the "Ignoring crud ... Subscribe" warnings
>> should be fixed.
>>
>> The way those podlings have added the Subscribe links seems perfectly
>> reasonable to me.
> I can easily remove those warnings -- I added them on purpose when I
> changed the page status generator to display warnings.
>
> On the other hand -- nothing ever stopped anyone from enclosing the mail
> address in a link anchor, where scripts can ignore them; or adding
> another column to the table for the links.
I updated the Bloodhound status page to give an example for adding extra
links to the table without confusing parsers. It'll be visible next time
the Incubator site updates. Given that it's not at all hard, I'm leaning
towards leaving those warnings in.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@e-reka.si>.
On 31.01.2013 11:02, sebb wrote:
> On 31 January 2013 07:55, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
>> preview at
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
>>
>> By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
>> The page is updated every 4 hours.
> Looks good, but I think the "Ignoring crud ... Subscribe" warnings
> should be fixed.
>
> The way those podlings have added the Subscribe links seems perfectly
> reasonable to me.
I can easily remove those warnings -- I added them on purpose when I
changed the page status generator to display warnings.
On the other hand -- nothing ever stopped anyone from enclosing the mail
address in a link anchor, where scripts can ignore them; or adding
another column to the table for the links.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 31 January 2013 07:55, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
> preview at
>
> http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
>
> By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
> The page is updated every 4 hours.
Looks good, but I think the "Ignoring crud ... Subscribe" warnings
should be fixed.
The way those podlings have added the Subscribe links seems perfectly
reasonable to me.
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
There is now an embedded version of the voting status page available for
preview at
http://people.apache.org/~brane/fakeubator/votes.html
By "embedded" I mean, integrated into (a copy of) the Incubator site.
The page is updated every 4 hours.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Gary Martin <ga...@wandisco.com>.
On 24/01/13 16:19, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100:
>> On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote:
>>> Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it
>>> looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail
>>> doesn't take cc's as being on the list or something.
>> In the meantime I changed the thing to parse the mbox archives directly.
>> Apparently that vote result is not in the current mbox file, either.
>> Don't ask me why. But we do seem to have problems with our mail archives.
> The mbox files on minotaur should be up-to-date at all times. (The ones
> on mail-archives are only updated hourly.) Was it CCed to general@ ?
Yes, it appears that the email in question was sent To bloodhound-dev@
and Cced to general@.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 22:01:32 +0100:
> On 24.01.2013 17:19, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100:
> >> On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote:
> >>> Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it
> >>> looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail
> >>> doesn't take cc's as being on the list or something.
> >> In the meantime I changed the thing to parse the mbox archives directly.
> >> Apparently that vote result is not in the current mbox file, either.
> >> Don't ask me why. But we do seem to have problems with our mail archives.
> > The mbox files on minotaur should be up-to-date at all times. (The ones
> > on mail-archives are only updated hourly.) Was it CCed to general@ ?
>
> It was. And it ended up in the bloodhound-dev archive, but not in the
> general archive.
>
> I've noticed before that our archives seem to be incomplete, and indeed
> it appears that the mbox files contain only messages To: a list,
> everything that actually gets delivered to subscribers by the list server.
>
Counterexample:
Message-ID: <20...@lp-shahaf.local>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:19:31 +0200
From: Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>
To: Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>
Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Incubator voting status page
appears in the mbox archives of this list.
> -- Brane
>
> P.S.: Incidentally, I noticed that I need more smarts in the subject
> parser: it doesn't understand [CANCELLED][VOTE] or [DISCUSS][VOTE]. :)
Don't forget [CANCELED]...
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 24.01.2013 22:01, Branko Čibej wrote:
> I've noticed before that our archives seem to be incomplete, and
> indeed it appears that the mbox files contain only messages To: a
> list, everything that actually gets delivered to subscribers by the
> list server.
I meant to say, /not/ everything that actually gets delivered ...
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 24.01.2013 17:19, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100:
>> On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote:
>>> Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it
>>> looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail
>>> doesn't take cc's as being on the list or something.
>> In the meantime I changed the thing to parse the mbox archives directly.
>> Apparently that vote result is not in the current mbox file, either.
>> Don't ask me why. But we do seem to have problems with our mail archives.
> The mbox files on minotaur should be up-to-date at all times. (The ones
> on mail-archives are only updated hourly.) Was it CCed to general@ ?
It was. And it ended up in the bloodhound-dev archive, but not in the
general archive.
I've noticed before that our archives seem to be incomplete, and indeed
it appears that the mbox files contain only messages To: a list,
everything that actually gets delivered to subscribers by the list server.
-- Brane
P.S.: Incidentally, I noticed that I need more smarts in the subject
parser: it doesn't understand [CANCELLED][VOTE] or [DISCUSS][VOTE]. :)
> grep ^Subject: ~apmail/public-arch/incubator.apache.org/general/201301 | fgrep -i '[vote]' | sed -e 's/^Subject: *[Rr][Ee]: */Subject: /' | sort -u
Subject: Getting IPMC members to vote Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound
Subject: [CANCELLED][VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC4 release
Subject: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Streams Master 0.1-incubating Release
Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Onami Parent 1 RC2
Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation
Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Apache Oltu (formerly Apache Amber) graduation resolution
Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Streams Master 0.1-incubating Release
Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] release Apache Onami Parent 2-incubating
Subject: [VOTE] - Apache Clerezza Graduation Resolution
Subject: [VOTE] Apache Kalumet 0.6-incubating release (2nd try)
Subject: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC4 release
Subject: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release
Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating)
Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Onami-Logging 3.4.0-incubating
Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Onami-Test 1.4.0-incubating
Subject: [VOTE] Release Onami Parent 1 RC2
Subject: [VOTE] Streams Master 0.1-incubating Release
Subject: [VOTE] release Apache Onami Parent 2-incubating
> grep ^Subject: ~apmail/public-arch/incubator.apache.org/bloodhound-dev/201301 | fgrep -i '[vote]' | sed -e 's/^Subject: *[Rr][Ee]: */Subject: /' | sort -u
Subject: Getting IPMC members to vote Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound
Subject: Getting IPMC members to vote Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating)
Subject: Installation documentation. Was: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound
Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating)
Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating)
Subject: new KEYS scheme? (Was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4
Subject: new KEYS scheme? (Was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating))
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100:
> On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote:
> > Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it
> > looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail
> > doesn't take cc's as being on the list or something.
>
> In the meantime I changed the thing to parse the mbox archives directly.
> Apparently that vote result is not in the current mbox file, either.
> Don't ask me why. But we do seem to have problems with our mail archives.
The mbox files on minotaur should be up-to-date at all times. (The ones
on mail-archives are only updated hourly.) Was it CCed to general@ ?
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Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote:
> We all seem to want a bit of feature creep. I would probably include a
> last update time for the page.
Guys, you're committers, the code is in Subversion, go wild :)
> Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it
> looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail
> doesn't take cc's as being on the list or something.
In the meantime I changed the thing to parse the mbox archives directly.
Apparently that vote result is not in the current mbox file, either.
Don't ask me why. But we do seem to have problems with our mail archives.
-- Brane
>
> Cheers,
> Gary
>
> On 24/01/13 11:50, Joachim Dreimann wrote:
>> Good work Brane. Just one feature suggestion: Could you display the
>> relative time (ie '3 days ago') in the table, and the absolute time in
>> tooltips?
>> That would make it much easier to read I reckon.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> On 24 January 2013 04:05, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> A while ago I proposed we should have a status page showing current
>>> pending votes.
>>>
>>> To this end I've begun writing a simple script that parses the
>>> general@incubator Atom feed from Markmail and creates a static web page
>>> with information gleaned from there (it keeps longer-term data in a
>>> SQLite database).
>>>
>>> The script is here:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/incuvoter
>>>
>>> and the current results are here:
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator-votes.html
>>>
>>> That page (should) get updated every 4 hours. It will also list closed
>>> votes up to 30 days old.
>>>
>>> There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm
>>> having
>>> a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term
>>> and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using
>>> the current month's worth of data from Markmail.
>>>
>>> Eventually I'd like to integrate this into the incubator pages, and add
>>> logic to the scripts so they'd yell at general@incubator if votes are
>>> overdue.
>>>
>>> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Gary Martin <ga...@wandisco.com>.
We all seem to want a bit of feature creep. I would probably include a
last update time for the page.
Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it
looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail
doesn't take cc's as being on the list or something.
Cheers,
Gary
On 24/01/13 11:50, Joachim Dreimann wrote:
> Good work Brane. Just one feature suggestion: Could you display the
> relative time (ie '3 days ago') in the table, and the absolute time in
> tooltips?
> That would make it much easier to read I reckon.
>
> Cheers,
> Joe
>
>
> On 24 January 2013 04:05, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> A while ago I proposed we should have a status page showing current
>> pending votes.
>>
>> To this end I've begun writing a simple script that parses the
>> general@incubator Atom feed from Markmail and creates a static web page
>> with information gleaned from there (it keeps longer-term data in a
>> SQLite database).
>>
>> The script is here:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/incuvoter
>>
>> and the current results are here:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator-votes.html
>>
>> That page (should) get updated every 4 hours. It will also list closed
>> votes up to 30 days old.
>>
>> There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having
>> a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term
>> and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using
>> the current month's worth of data from Markmail.
>>
>> Eventually I'd like to integrate this into the incubator pages, and add
>> logic to the scripts so they'd yell at general@incubator if votes are
>> overdue.
>>
>> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Great job, Brane!
On 1/24/13 3:50 AM, "Joachim Dreimann" <jo...@wandisco.com>
wrote:
>Good work Brane. Just one feature suggestion: Could you display the
>relative time (ie '3 days ago') in the table, and the absolute time in
>tooltips?
>That would make it much easier to read I reckon.
>
>Cheers,
>Joe
>
>
>On 24 January 2013 04:05, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> A while ago I proposed we should have a status page showing current
>> pending votes.
>>
>> To this end I've begun writing a simple script that parses the
>> general@incubator Atom feed from Markmail and creates a static web page
>> with information gleaned from there (it keeps longer-term data in a
>> SQLite database).
>>
>> The script is here:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/incuvoter
>>
>> and the current results are here:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator-votes.html
>>
>> That page (should) get updated every 4 hours. It will also list closed
>> votes up to 30 days old.
>>
>> There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having
>> a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term
>> and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using
>> the current month's worth of data from Markmail.
>>
>> Eventually I'd like to integrate this into the incubator pages, and add
>> logic to the scripts so they'd yell at general@incubator if votes are
>> overdue.
>>
>> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Joachim Dreimann <jo...@wandisco.com>.
Good work Brane. Just one feature suggestion: Could you display the
relative time (ie '3 days ago') in the table, and the absolute time in
tooltips?
That would make it much easier to read I reckon.
Cheers,
Joe
On 24 January 2013 04:05, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> A while ago I proposed we should have a status page showing current
> pending votes.
>
> To this end I've begun writing a simple script that parses the
> general@incubator Atom feed from Markmail and creates a static web page
> with information gleaned from there (it keeps longer-term data in a
> SQLite database).
>
> The script is here:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/incuvoter
>
> and the current results are here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator-votes.html
>
> That page (should) get updated every 4 hours. It will also list closed
> votes up to 30 days old.
>
> There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having
> a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term
> and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using
> the current month's worth of data from Markmail.
>
> Eventually I'd like to integrate this into the incubator pages, and add
> logic to the scripts so they'd yell at general@incubator if votes are
> overdue.
>
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 24.01.2013 06:16, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 05:05:42 +0100:
>> There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having
>> a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term
>> and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using
>> the current month's worth of data from Markmail.
>>
> ~apmail/public-arch/incubator.apache.org/general/
Thanks, Daniel!
I don't really want to parse mbox files, but it just might turn out to
be better than the alternatives -- especially bandwidth-wise. :)
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 05:05:42 +0100:
> There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having
> a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term
> and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's why I switched to using
> the current month's worth of data from Markmail.
>
~apmail/public-arch/incubator.apache.org/general/
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Branko Čibej wrote:
> sebb wrote:
> > Branko Čibej wrote:
> >> Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> >>> David Crossley wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> You are striking the same type of problems that Clutch has
> >>>> needed to deal with over the years. In general, the state of
> >>>> podling metadata is not reliable. That is something that we
> >>>> need to get podling developers interested with.
> >>>>
> >>> I have a current example. Flex and Wink haven't updated their
> >>> podlings.xml entries to
> >>> status="graduated"
> >>> , therefore certain infra scripts still consider them podlings rather
> >>> than PMCs.
These situations cause issues for other volunteers.
> >> Nor had PhotArk updated its entry to "retired" until I did that
> >> yesterday to get rid of one of the warnings.
Those things usually mean that people have not followed
the remainder of the steps for graduation or retirement.
So i just leave them in that state to remind people.
> >> I'm not actually all that worried. The worst that can happen in the case
> >> of the voter script is that some votes don't get recorded, or are
> >> recorded later than expected. The script does emit warnings if it sees
> >> strangeness; I /could/ teach it to send the warnings to the podling's
> >> dev list (if known), cc: general@. But I'd rather not open the spam
> >> floodgates unless people really want me to.
Clutch has been trying to flag those errors too.
Occasionally i send some manual postings about these
issues. Perhaps both tools listing the inconsistencies
will assist.
-David
> > Why not append the errors to the end of the report?
>
> Good idea, I'll do that.
>
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 29.01.2013 17:23, sebb wrote:
> On 29 January 2013 14:17, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 29.01.2013 09:53, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>> David Crossley wrote on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 16:12:34 +1100:
>>>> You are striking the same type of problems that Clutch has
>>>> needed to deal with over the years. In general, the state of
>>>> podling metadata is not reliable. That is something that we
>>>> need to get podling developers interested with.
>>>>
>>> I have a current example. Flex and Wink haven't updated their
>>> podlings.xml entries to
>>> status="graduated"
>>> , therefore certain infra scripts still consider them podlings rather
>>> than PMCs.
>> Nor had PhotArk updated its entry to "retired" until I did that
>> yesterday to get rid of one of the warnings.
>>
>> I'm not actually all that worried. The worst that can happen in the case
>> of the voter script is that some votes don't get recorded, or are
>> recorded later than expected. The script does emit warnings if it sees
>> strangeness; I /could/ teach it to send the warnings to the podling's
>> dev list (if known), cc: general@. But I'd rather not open the spam
>> floodgates unless people really want me to.
> Why not append the errors to the end of the report?
Good idea, I'll do that.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 29 January 2013 14:17, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 29.01.2013 09:53, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>> David Crossley wrote on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 16:12:34 +1100:
>>> You are striking the same type of problems that Clutch has
>>> needed to deal with over the years. In general, the state of
>>> podling metadata is not reliable. That is something that we
>>> need to get podling developers interested with.
>>>
>> I have a current example. Flex and Wink haven't updated their
>> podlings.xml entries to
>> status="graduated"
>> , therefore certain infra scripts still consider them podlings rather
>> than PMCs.
>
> Nor had PhotArk updated its entry to "retired" until I did that
> yesterday to get rid of one of the warnings.
>
> I'm not actually all that worried. The worst that can happen in the case
> of the voter script is that some votes don't get recorded, or are
> recorded later than expected. The script does emit warnings if it sees
> strangeness; I /could/ teach it to send the warnings to the podling's
> dev list (if known), cc: general@. But I'd rather not open the spam
> floodgates unless people really want me to.
Why not append the errors to the end of the report?
Or create a separate page containing just the errors and link to if
from the main page?
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 29.01.2013 09:53, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> David Crossley wrote on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 16:12:34 +1100:
>> You are striking the same type of problems that Clutch has
>> needed to deal with over the years. In general, the state of
>> podling metadata is not reliable. That is something that we
>> need to get podling developers interested with.
>>
> I have a current example. Flex and Wink haven't updated their
> podlings.xml entries to
> status="graduated"
> , therefore certain infra scripts still consider them podlings rather
> than PMCs.
Nor had PhotArk updated its entry to "retired" until I did that
yesterday to get rid of one of the warnings.
I'm not actually all that worried. The worst that can happen in the case
of the voter script is that some votes don't get recorded, or are
recorded later than expected. The script does emit warnings if it sees
strangeness; I /could/ teach it to send the warnings to the podling's
dev list (if known), cc: general@. But I'd rather not open the spam
floodgates unless people really want me to.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/29/13 12:53 AM, "Daniel Shahaf" <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>
> I have a current example. Flex and Wink haven't updated their
> podlings.xml entries to
> status="graduated"
> , therefore certain infra scripts still consider them podlings rather
> than PMCs.
My bad. I somehow missed that in the list of tasks to do. Flex should be
fixed now.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
David Crossley wrote on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 16:12:34 +1100:
> You are striking the same type of problems that Clutch has
> needed to deal with over the years. In general, the state of
> podling metadata is not reliable. That is something that we
> need to get podling developers interested with.
>
I have a current example. Flex and Wink haven't updated their
podlings.xml entries to
status="graduated"
, therefore certain infra scripts still consider them podlings rather
than PMCs.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Branko Čibej wrote:
> On 28.01.2013 08:58, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > Branko Čibej wrote on Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:22:42 +0100:
> >> On 27.01.2013 16:17, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> >>> Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 15:30:04 +0100:
> >>>> On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just
> >>>>> need to add a field to it we can.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope, I'm currently walking the incubator archive tree. The clutch
> >>>> metadata is in general good enough, since if clutch can generate
> >>>> target/current.ent, I can certainly get the information I need from
> >>>> that. ...
Clutch does not generate that file. It is handled by the Incubator
Ant build.xml
> >>>> ... The only question is the conversion from
> >>>> list@podling.incubator.apache.org (which clutch knows about) to
> >>>> archive/podling.apache.org/list (which is where the podling mail
> >>>> archives will be in future) is consistent.
> >>>>
> >>> Yes, it is, for all *@p.i.a.o lists.
> >>
> >> Well, I've found an inconsistency while changing the scripts to parse
> >> the content/podlings.xml and content/projects/<podling-name>.xml.
> >> Onami's dev list is the old-style:
> >>
> >> onami-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>
> >> but its archive is new-style:
> >>
> >> onami.incubator.apache.org/dev
> >>
> >> I don't want to special-case the script for this; can we make the
> >> archive consistent with the mailing list address?
> >>
> > They seem consistent with the other "new-style" podlings:
> >
> > minotaur,9:~apmail/public-arch% find . -maxdepth 2 -name \*onami\*
> > ./onami.apache.org
> > minotaur,9:~apmail/public-arch% grep -h List-Id onami.apache.org/*/* | uniq
> > List-Id: <commits.onami.incubator.apache.org>
> > List-Id: <dev.onami.incubator.apache.org>
> > List-Id: <user.onami.incubator.apache.org>
>
> Ah, could it be then that content/projects/onami.xml is just wrong and
> needs to be updated? It says:
>
> <td id="mail-dev"><code>onami-dev</code><code>@</code><code>incubator.apache.org</code></td>
You are striking the same type of problems that Clutch has
needed to deal with over the years. In general, the state of
podling metadata is not reliable. That is something that we
need to get podling developers interested with.
So Clutch makes educated guesses about the podling mail lists.
When it sees that its mbox files are flowing (they could be
not yet established or held up waiting for initial moderation)
then it writes their dev list address into the report_due_[1-3].txt
files for 'marvin' to utilise
(see http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#data)
and puts "hasMailListDev" into clutch.pkl for the mod_mbox URL.
With the latter, if the name starts with "incubator-"
then that is an "old-style" list.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 28.01.2013 10:01, Simone Tripodi wrote:
>> Hi Branko!
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Ah, could it be then that content/projects/onami.xml is just wrong and
>>> needs to be updated?
>> yes, we published the status page before we got the MLs addresses and
>> noticed they are in the new pattern :P could one of the mentor please
>> update it?
>
> I can do that. And have done it. Please review:
>
> svn diff -c1439308 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator
Looks good, thanks for updating it.
We (mentors) need to give this file some more love, but thats another story.
Cheers
Christian
>
>
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
thanks a lot Branko,
much more than appreciated!!!
all the best,
-Simo
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On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 28.01.2013 10:01, Simone Tripodi wrote:
>> Hi Branko!
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Ah, could it be then that content/projects/onami.xml is just wrong and
>>> needs to be updated?
>> yes, we published the status page before we got the MLs addresses and
>> noticed they are in the new pattern :P could one of the mentor please
>> update it?
>
> I can do that. And have done it. Please review:
>
> svn diff -c1439308 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator
>
>
>
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 28.01.2013 10:01, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi Branko!
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Ah, could it be then that content/projects/onami.xml is just wrong and
>> needs to be updated?
> yes, we published the status page before we got the MLs addresses and
> noticed they are in the new pattern :P could one of the mentor please
> update it?
I can do that. And have done it. Please review:
svn diff -c1439308 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Branko!
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ah, could it be then that content/projects/onami.xml is just wrong and
> needs to be updated?
yes, we published the status page before we got the MLs addresses and
noticed they are in the new pattern :P could one of the mentor please
update it?
TIA!
-Simo
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Branko!
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ah, could it be then that content/projects/onami.xml is just wrong and
> needs to be updated?
yes, we published the status page before we got the MLs addresses and
noticed they are in the new pattern :P could one of the mentor please
update it?
TIA!
-Simo
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 28.01.2013 08:58, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:22:42 +0100:
>> On 27.01.2013 16:17, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 15:30:04 +0100:
>>>> On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>> Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just
>>>>> need to add a field to it we can.
>>>> Nope, I'm currently walking the incubator archive tree. The clutch
>>>> metadata is in general good enough, since if clutch can generate
>>>> target/current.ent, I can certainly get the information I need from
>>>> that. The only question is the conversion from
>>>> list@podling.incubator.apache.org (which clutch knows about) to
>>>> archive/podling.apache.org/list (which is where the podling mail
>>>> archives will be in future) is consistent.
>>>>
>>> Yes, it is, for all *@p.i.a.o lists.
>> Well, I've found an inconsistency while changing the scripts to parse
>> the content/podlings.xml and content/projects/<podling-name>.xml.
>> Onami's dev list is the old-style:
>>
>> onami-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>
>> but its archive is new-style:
>>
>> onami.incubator.apache.org/dev
>>
>> I don't want to special-case the script for this; can we make the
>> archive consistent with the mailing list address?
>>
> They seem consistent with the other "new-style" podlings:
>
> minotaur,9:~apmail/public-arch% find . -maxdepth 2 -name \*onami\*
> ./onami.apache.org
> minotaur,9:~apmail/public-arch% grep -h List-Id onami.apache.org/*/* | uniq
> List-Id: <commits.onami.incubator.apache.org>
> List-Id: <dev.onami.incubator.apache.org>
> List-Id: <user.onami.incubator.apache.org>
Ah, could it be then that content/projects/onami.xml is just wrong and
needs to be updated? It says:
<td id="mail-dev"><code>onami-dev</code><code>@</code><code>incubator.apache.org</code></td>
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 28.01.2013 08:58, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:22:42 +0100:
>> On 27.01.2013 16:17, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 15:30:04 +0100:
>>>> On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>> Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just
>>>>> need to add a field to it we can.
>>>> Nope, I'm currently walking the incubator archive tree. The clutch
>>>> metadata is in general good enough, since if clutch can generate
>>>> target/current.ent, I can certainly get the information I need from
>>>> that. The only question is the conversion from
>>>> list@podling.incubator.apache.org (which clutch knows about) to
>>>> archive/podling.apache.org/list (which is where the podling mail
>>>> archives will be in future) is consistent.
>>>>
>>> Yes, it is, for all *@p.i.a.o lists.
>> Well, I've found an inconsistency while changing the scripts to parse
>> the content/podlings.xml and content/projects/<podling-name>.xml.
>> Onami's dev list is the old-style:
>>
>> onami-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>
>> but its archive is new-style:
>>
>> onami.incubator.apache.org/dev
>>
>> I don't want to special-case the script for this; can we make the
>> archive consistent with the mailing list address?
>>
> They seem consistent with the other "new-style" podlings:
>
> minotaur,9:~apmail/public-arch% find . -maxdepth 2 -name \*onami\*
> ./onami.apache.org
> minotaur,9:~apmail/public-arch% grep -h List-Id onami.apache.org/*/* | uniq
> List-Id: <commits.onami.incubator.apache.org>
> List-Id: <dev.onami.incubator.apache.org>
> List-Id: <user.onami.incubator.apache.org>
Ah, could it be then that content/projects/onami.xml is just wrong and
needs to be updated? It says:
<td id="mail-dev"><code>onami-dev</code><code>@</code><code>incubator.apache.org</code></td>
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:22:42 +0100:
> On 27.01.2013 16:17, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 15:30:04 +0100:
> >> On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote:
> >>> Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just
> >>> need to add a field to it we can.
> >> Nope, I'm currently walking the incubator archive tree. The clutch
> >> metadata is in general good enough, since if clutch can generate
> >> target/current.ent, I can certainly get the information I need from
> >> that. The only question is the conversion from
> >> list@podling.incubator.apache.org (which clutch knows about) to
> >> archive/podling.apache.org/list (which is where the podling mail
> >> archives will be in future) is consistent.
> >>
> > Yes, it is, for all *@p.i.a.o lists.
>
> Well, I've found an inconsistency while changing the scripts to parse
> the content/podlings.xml and content/projects/<podling-name>.xml.
> Onami's dev list is the old-style:
>
> onami-dev@incubator.apache.org
>
> but its archive is new-style:
>
> onami.incubator.apache.org/dev
>
> I don't want to special-case the script for this; can we make the
> archive consistent with the mailing list address?
>
They seem consistent with the other "new-style" podlings:
minotaur,9:~apmail/public-arch% find . -maxdepth 2 -name \*onami\*
./onami.apache.org
minotaur,9:~apmail/public-arch% grep -h List-Id onami.apache.org/*/* | uniq
List-Id: <commits.onami.incubator.apache.org>
List-Id: <dev.onami.incubator.apache.org>
List-Id: <user.onami.incubator.apache.org>
Daniel
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 27.01.2013 16:17, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 15:30:04 +0100:
>> On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>> Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just
>>> need to add a field to it we can.
>> Nope, I'm currently walking the incubator archive tree. The clutch
>> metadata is in general good enough, since if clutch can generate
>> target/current.ent, I can certainly get the information I need from
>> that. The only question is the conversion from
>> list@podling.incubator.apache.org (which clutch knows about) to
>> archive/podling.apache.org/list (which is where the podling mail
>> archives will be in future) is consistent.
>>
> Yes, it is, for all *@p.i.a.o lists.
Well, I've found an inconsistency while changing the scripts to parse
the content/podlings.xml and content/projects/<podling-name>.xml.
Onami's dev list is the old-style:
onami-dev@incubator.apache.org
but its archive is new-style:
onami.incubator.apache.org/dev
I don't want to special-case the script for this; can we make the
archive consistent with the mailing list address?
I also found two other problems: flex and photark removed the
'id="mail-dev"' attributes from their status XML files, and also
replaced the list address with the web archive address, so there's no
machine-readable way to find their mailing list address. I think it
would be a good idea to require that the <podling-name>.xml files are
machine-readable in the sense that all relevant information about a
podling can be extracted from them without special-casing scripts.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 15:30:04 +0100:
> On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote:
> > Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just
> > need to add a field to it we can.
>
> Nope, I'm currently walking the incubator archive tree. The clutch
> metadata is in general good enough, since if clutch can generate
> target/current.ent, I can certainly get the information I need from
> that. The only question is the conversion from
> list@podling.incubator.apache.org (which clutch knows about) to
> archive/podling.apache.org/list (which is where the podling mail
> archives will be in future) is consistent.
>
Yes, it is, for all *@p.i.a.o lists.
To your original question: I usually use podlings.xml/[status=current].
> -- Brane
>
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@e-reka.si>.
On 26.01.2013 14:27, Benson Margulies wrote:
> Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just
> need to add a field to it we can.
Nope, I'm currently walking the incubator archive tree. The clutch
metadata is in general good enough, since if clutch can generate
target/current.ent, I can certainly get the information I need from
that. The only question is the conversion from
list@podling.incubator.apache.org (which clutch knows about) to
archive/podling.apache.org/list (which is where the podling mail
archives will be in future) is consistent.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Brane, are you currently using the pickled clutch metadata? If we just
need to add a field to it we can.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 26.01.2013 00:16, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>> Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 18:40:18 +0100:
>>> On 25.01.2013 18:26, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:27:25 +0100:
>>>>> I changed the vote counting script so that it parses /all/ the incubator
>>>>> list archives, not just general@, for vote threads addressed to
>>>> Do you also parse the dev@helix.incubator.apache.org archives, which are in
>>>> ~apmail/public-arch/helix.apache.org/dev/ ?
>>> No, as I wasn't aware of them. I can add them to the list.
>> All new podlings use that scheme. Helix was just the first one to use
>> it, there are already 3 others (and all podlings created from this point
>> on, too).
>
> I see. Can you suggest a way to find which archives belong to podlings,
> then, without having to parse /all/ the archives and/or manually add
> them to the archive list? I can probably find the info in the incubator
> status, if there's no easier way to notice what's a podling and what isn't.
>
> -- Brane
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 26.01.2013 00:16, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 18:40:18 +0100:
>> On 25.01.2013 18:26, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>> Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:27:25 +0100:
>>>> I changed the vote counting script so that it parses /all/ the incubator
>>>> list archives, not just general@, for vote threads addressed to
>>> Do you also parse the dev@helix.incubator.apache.org archives, which are in
>>> ~apmail/public-arch/helix.apache.org/dev/ ?
>> No, as I wasn't aware of them. I can add them to the list.
> All new podlings use that scheme. Helix was just the first one to use
> it, there are already 3 others (and all podlings created from this point
> on, too).
I see. Can you suggest a way to find which archives belong to podlings,
then, without having to parse /all/ the archives and/or manually add
them to the archive list? I can probably find the info in the incubator
status, if there's no easier way to notice what's a podling and what isn't.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 18:40:18 +0100:
> On 25.01.2013 18:26, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:27:25 +0100:
> >> I changed the vote counting script so that it parses /all/ the incubator
> >> list archives, not just general@, for vote threads addressed to
> > Do you also parse the dev@helix.incubator.apache.org archives, which are in
> > ~apmail/public-arch/helix.apache.org/dev/ ?
>
> No, as I wasn't aware of them. I can add them to the list.
All new podlings use that scheme. Helix was just the first one to use
it, there are already 3 others (and all podlings created from this point
on, too).
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 25.01.2013 18:26, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:27:25 +0100:
>> I changed the vote counting script so that it parses /all/ the incubator
>> list archives, not just general@, for vote threads addressed to
> Do you also parse the dev@helix.incubator.apache.org archives, which are in
> ~apmail/public-arch/helix.apache.org/dev/ ?
No, as I wasn't aware of them. I can add them to the list.
>> general@. This solved the case where, e.g., the Bloodhound vote
>> resolution was not noticed.
>>
> 251 N Jan 24 Ryan Ollos ( 96) [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound
> appears in the general@incubator archives.
It didn't yesterday, even though I saw it in my inbox as coming from the
mailing list. I don't understand what's happening (and don't really want
to :).
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Branko Čibej wrote on Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 15:27:25 +0100:
> I changed the vote counting script so that it parses /all/ the incubator
> list archives, not just general@, for vote threads addressed to
Do you also parse the dev@helix.incubator.apache.org archives, which are in
~apmail/public-arch/helix.apache.org/dev/ ?
> general@. This solved the case where, e.g., the Bloodhound vote
> resolution was not noticed.
>
251 N Jan 24 Ryan Ollos ( 96) [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound
appears in the general@incubator archives.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 25.01.2013 16:12, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I think I've managed to work around the fact that our mbox archives only
>> contain mails that were addressed To: a list, not Cc: that list.
> I'll bet that Ryan isn't subscribed to general@incubator and that his message
> wasn't moderated through right away.
>
> It's now in the general@incubator archives as well.
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201301.mbox/%3CCAPt9QwRMDCcp_JWwAJeL-rH3YnPJDNEjq0tgcQvUHUKrpv-y%2BA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
I did see the message on general@ days ago, when it still was not in the
archives. But even if my interpretation of the fact is wrong, parsing
all the archives isn't that expensive, so I'll leave it in.
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> I think I've managed to work around the fact that our mbox archives only
> contain mails that were addressed To: a list, not Cc: that list.
I'll bet that Ryan isn't subscribed to general@incubator and that his message
wasn't moderated through right away.
It's now in the general@incubator archives as well.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201301.mbox/%3CCAPt9QwRMDCcp_JWwAJeL-rH3YnPJDNEjq0tgcQvUHUKrpv-y%2BA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
I think I've managed to work around the fact that our mbox archives only
contain mails that were addressed To: a list, not Cc: that list.
I changed the vote counting script so that it parses /all/ the incubator
list archives, not just general@, for vote threads addressed to
general@. This solved the case where, e.g., the Bloodhound vote
resolution was not noticed.
Other minor changes:
* Changed the colour scheme to match Clutch
* Added an age column to the current votes table
* Shows the last recorded change (based on mbox file mtimes)
* Removed the ability to parse Atom feeds
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Re: Incubator voting status page
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>...the current results are here:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator-votes.html
>
> That page (should) get updated every 4 hours...
Cool - it might make sense to integrate with https://whimsy.apache.org/
-Bertrand
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