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Posted to server-user@james.apache.org by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> on 2002/08/15 14:08:22 UTC
JAMES doesn't like
I have my dns server set up:
<dnsserver>
<servers>
<server>199.172.1.1</server>
<!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
</servers>
<authoritative>false</authoritative>
</dnsserver>
However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
gone out of business:
1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
exception deli
vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
javax.mail.Messaging
Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
cannot deter
mine where to send this message.
at
org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
ery.java:157)
at
org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
java:449)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Storing message
Mail1029
412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
Any thoughts?
-Andy
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RE: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Ignore me then.. I always leave hostname lookups off.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> Sent: 18 August 2002 20:00
> To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
>
>
> Odd. I had (until today) name logging setup in apache... (meaning its
> generating at least ONE DNS request per connection or so)....
>
> Danny Angus wrote:
> > its probably 'cos a mailserver makes more intensive use of DNS.
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> >>Sent: 18 August 2002 17:45
> >>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >>Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
> >>
> >>
> >>Adding backup DNS servers helped quite a bit. I now have 4. Oddly my
> >>webserver gets more load and yet it doesn't manage to outrun the 2
> >>DNS(ies?)... dunno why.
> >>
> >>Danny Angus wrote:
> >>
> >>>Do Andy,
> >>>and keep us informed.
> >>>d.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> >>>>Sent: 15 August 2002 14:31
> >>>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >>>>Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I added a backup DNS server. So I'll report back on whether
> that helps
> >>>>any... Sure hope so... I may start creating "Andy's stable JAMES
> >>>>distribution"...hehe...
> >>>>
> >>>>-Andy
> >>>>
> >>>>Danny Angus wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I've had a related problem which I fixed by providing a
> longer list of
> >>>>>faster DNS servers.
> >>>>>Doesn't address the root cause, but did cure the symptom.
> >>>>>d.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> >>>>>>Sent: 15 August 2002 13:08
> >>>>>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >>>>>>Subject: JAMES doesn't like
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I have my dns server set up:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <dnsserver>
> >>>>>> <servers>
> >>>>>> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
> >>>>>> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
> >>>>>> </servers>
> >>>>>> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
> >>>>>> </dnsserver>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with
> "connection time
> >>>>>>out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send
> mail via my
> >>>>>>ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
> >>>>>>gone out of business:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
> >>>>>>exception deli
> >>>>>>vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
> >>>>>>javax.mail.Messaging
> >>>>>>Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
> >>>>>>cannot deter
> >>>>>>mine where to send this message.
> >>>>>> at
> >>>>>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(Re
> moteDeliv
> >>>>>>ery.java:157)
> >>>>>> at
> >>>>>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(Remote
> Delivery.
> >>>>>>java:449)
> >>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery:
> >>>>>
> >>Storing message
> >>
> >>>>>>Mail1029
> >>>>>>412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Any thoughts?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-Andy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
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> >>>>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
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Re: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Odd. I had (until today) name logging setup in apache... (meaning its
generating at least ONE DNS request per connection or so)....
Danny Angus wrote:
> its probably 'cos a mailserver makes more intensive use of DNS.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
>>Sent: 18 August 2002 17:45
>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
>>
>>
>>Adding backup DNS servers helped quite a bit. I now have 4. Oddly my
>>webserver gets more load and yet it doesn't manage to outrun the 2
>>DNS(ies?)... dunno why.
>>
>>Danny Angus wrote:
>>
>>>Do Andy,
>>>and keep us informed.
>>>d.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>Sent: 15 August 2002 14:31
>>>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>>>Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I added a backup DNS server. So I'll report back on whether that helps
>>>>any... Sure hope so... I may start creating "Andy's stable JAMES
>>>>distribution"...hehe...
>>>>
>>>>-Andy
>>>>
>>>>Danny Angus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I've had a related problem which I fixed by providing a longer list of
>>>>>faster DNS servers.
>>>>>Doesn't address the root cause, but did cure the symptom.
>>>>>d.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>>>Sent: 15 August 2002 13:08
>>>>>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>>>>>Subject: JAMES doesn't like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have my dns server set up:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <dnsserver>
>>>>>> <servers>
>>>>>> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
>>>>>> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
>>>>>> </servers>
>>>>>> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
>>>>>> </dnsserver>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
>>>>>>out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
>>>>>>ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
>>>>>>gone out of business:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
>>>>>>exception deli
>>>>>>vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
>>>>>>javax.mail.Messaging
>>>>>>Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
>>>>>>cannot deter
>>>>>>mine where to send this message.
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
>>>>>>ery.java:157)
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
>>>>>>java:449)
>>>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery:
>>>>>
>>Storing message
>>
>>>>>>Mail1029
>>>>>>412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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RE: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
its probably 'cos a mailserver makes more intensive use of DNS.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> Sent: 18 August 2002 17:45
> To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
>
>
> Adding backup DNS servers helped quite a bit. I now have 4. Oddly my
> webserver gets more load and yet it doesn't manage to outrun the 2
> DNS(ies?)... dunno why.
>
> Danny Angus wrote:
> > Do Andy,
> > and keep us informed.
> > d.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> >>Sent: 15 August 2002 14:31
> >>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >>Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
> >>
> >>
> >>I added a backup DNS server. So I'll report back on whether that helps
> >>any... Sure hope so... I may start creating "Andy's stable JAMES
> >>distribution"...hehe...
> >>
> >>-Andy
> >>
> >>Danny Angus wrote:
> >>
> >>>I've had a related problem which I fixed by providing a longer list of
> >>>faster DNS servers.
> >>>Doesn't address the root cause, but did cure the symptom.
> >>>d.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> >>>>Sent: 15 August 2002 13:08
> >>>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >>>>Subject: JAMES doesn't like
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I have my dns server set up:
> >>>>
> >>>> <dnsserver>
> >>>> <servers>
> >>>> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
> >>>> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
> >>>> </servers>
> >>>> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
> >>>> </dnsserver>
> >>>>
> >>>>However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
> >>>>out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
> >>>>ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
> >>>>
> >>>>An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
> >>>>
> >>>>Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
> >>>>gone out of business:
> >>>>
> >>>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
> >>>>exception deli
> >>>>vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
> >>>>javax.mail.Messaging
> >>>>Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
> >>>>cannot deter
> >>>>mine where to send this message.
> >>>> at
> >>>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
> >>>>ery.java:157)
> >>>> at
> >>>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
> >>>>java:449)
> >>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
> >>>>
> >>>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery:
> Storing message
> >>>>Mail1029
> >>>>412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
> >>>>
> >>>>That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
> >>>>
> >>>>Any thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>>-Andy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>>>For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Adding backup DNS servers helped quite a bit. I now have 4. Oddly my
webserver gets more load and yet it doesn't manage to outrun the 2
DNS(ies?)... dunno why.
Danny Angus wrote:
> Do Andy,
> and keep us informed.
> d.
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
>>Sent: 15 August 2002 14:31
>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
>>
>>
>>I added a backup DNS server. So I'll report back on whether that helps
>>any... Sure hope so... I may start creating "Andy's stable JAMES
>>distribution"...hehe...
>>
>>-Andy
>>
>>Danny Angus wrote:
>>
>>>I've had a related problem which I fixed by providing a longer list of
>>>faster DNS servers.
>>>Doesn't address the root cause, but did cure the symptom.
>>>d.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
>>>>Sent: 15 August 2002 13:08
>>>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>>>Subject: JAMES doesn't like
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have my dns server set up:
>>>>
>>>> <dnsserver>
>>>> <servers>
>>>> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
>>>> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
>>>> </servers>
>>>> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
>>>> </dnsserver>
>>>>
>>>>However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
>>>>out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
>>>>ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
>>>>
>>>>An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
>>>>
>>>>Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
>>>>gone out of business:
>>>>
>>>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
>>>>exception deli
>>>>vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
>>>>javax.mail.Messaging
>>>>Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
>>>>cannot deter
>>>>mine where to send this message.
>>>> at
>>>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
>>>>ery.java:157)
>>>> at
>>>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
>>>>java:449)
>>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
>>>>
>>>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Storing message
>>>>Mail1029
>>>>412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
>>>>
>>>>That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
>>>>
>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>-Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>>For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>><ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
>>>>
>>
>>
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RE: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Do Andy,
and keep us informed.
d.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> Sent: 15 August 2002 14:31
> To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: JAMES doesn't like
>
>
> I added a backup DNS server. So I'll report back on whether that helps
> any... Sure hope so... I may start creating "Andy's stable JAMES
> distribution"...hehe...
>
> -Andy
>
> Danny Angus wrote:
> > I've had a related problem which I fixed by providing a longer list of
> > faster DNS servers.
> > Doesn't address the root cause, but did cure the symptom.
> > d.
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> >>Sent: 15 August 2002 13:08
> >>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >>Subject: JAMES doesn't like
> >>
> >>
> >>I have my dns server set up:
> >>
> >> <dnsserver>
> >> <servers>
> >> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
> >> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
> >> </servers>
> >> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
> >> </dnsserver>
> >>
> >>However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
> >>out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
> >>ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
> >>
> >>An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
> >>
> >>Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
> >>gone out of business:
> >>
> >>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
> >>exception deli
> >>vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
> >>javax.mail.Messaging
> >>Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
> >>cannot deter
> >>mine where to send this message.
> >> at
> >>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
> >>ery.java:157)
> >> at
> >>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
> >>java:449)
> >> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
> >>
> >>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Storing message
> >>Mail1029
> >>412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
> >>
> >>That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
> >>
> >>Any thoughts?
> >>
> >>-Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
I added a backup DNS server. So I'll report back on whether that helps
any... Sure hope so... I may start creating "Andy's stable JAMES
distribution"...hehe...
-Andy
Danny Angus wrote:
> I've had a related problem which I fixed by providing a longer list of
> faster DNS servers.
> Doesn't address the root cause, but did cure the symptom.
> d.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
>>Sent: 15 August 2002 13:08
>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: JAMES doesn't like
>>
>>
>>I have my dns server set up:
>>
>> <dnsserver>
>> <servers>
>> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
>> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
>> </servers>
>> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
>> </dnsserver>
>>
>>However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
>>out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
>>ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
>>
>>An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
>>
>>Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
>>gone out of business:
>>
>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
>>exception deli
>>vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
>>javax.mail.Messaging
>>Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
>>cannot deter
>>mine where to send this message.
>> at
>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
>>ery.java:157)
>> at
>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
>>java:449)
>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
>>
>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Storing message
>>Mail1029
>>412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
>>
>>That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>-Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
A single message... Happens sometimes later...
Peter M. Goldstein wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> What is the load you're putting on James when this problem occurs? Is
> it when you're sending a single message, or as part of a burst? If the
> latter, how responsive is your DNS server under load?
>
> --Peter
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
>>Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:08 AM
>>To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: JAMES doesn't like
>>
>>I have my dns server set up:
>>
>> <dnsserver>
>> <servers>
>> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
>> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
>> </servers>
>> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
>> </dnsserver>
>>
>>However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
>>out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
>>ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
>>
>>An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
>>
>>Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
>>gone out of business:
>>
>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
>>exception deli
>>vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
>>javax.mail.Messaging
>>Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
>>cannot deter
>>mine where to send this message.
>> at
>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
>>ery.java:157)
>> at
>>org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
>>java:449)
>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
>>
>>1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Storing
>
> message
>
>>Mail1029
>>412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
>>
>>That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>-Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by "Peter M. Goldstein" <pe...@yahoo.com>.
Andrew,
What is the load you're putting on James when this problem occurs? Is
it when you're sending a single message, or as part of a burst? If the
latter, how responsive is your DNS server under load?
--Peter
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:08 AM
> To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: JAMES doesn't like
>
> I have my dns server set up:
>
> <dnsserver>
> <servers>
> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
> </servers>
> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
> </dnsserver>
>
> However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
> out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
> ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
>
> An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
>
> Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
> gone out of business:
>
> 1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
> exception deli
> vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
> javax.mail.Messaging
> Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
> cannot deter
> mine where to send this message.
> at
> org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
> ery.java:157)
> at
> org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
> java:449)
> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
>
> 1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Storing
message
> Mail1029
> 412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
>
> That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -Andy
>
>
>
>
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RE: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
At the moment James assumes permanent, then modifies this if there is a
transient error code returned per rfc<whatever-i-forget>, therefore 5xx
errors are correctly treated as permanent, its the errors that result
*before* a connection is made that is the issue.
James has a retry limit for transient errors. The retry interval, and the
retries limit are configurable.
d.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Webb [mailto:jw@inovem.com]
> Sent: 20 August 2002 11:30
> To: 'James Developers List'
> Subject: RE: JAMES doesn't like
>
>
> Qmail has an error code for transient errors and another one for perms.
> I personally think that it's a site config issue. If the mail MUST get
> through then by all means assume transient first. If you want a lower
> server load, assume permanent instead.
> The errors mentioned below I would regard as transients as they may
> resolve themselves shortly. SMTP errors such as "No account" etc should
> be permanent.
>
> When would James retry a transmission for a failure?
>
> -- Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> Sent: 20 August 2002 10:48
> To: James Developer List
> Subject: RE: JAMES doesn't like
>
>
> Andy Oliver wrote, in the users list:
>
> > However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
> > out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
> > ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
>
> > Any thoughts?
>
> I've spotted this in remote delivery:
>
> //Assume it is a permanent exception, or prove ourselves
> otherwise
> boolean permanent = true;
>
> I wonder if we shouldn't assume that it is a transient error unless we
> can prove otherwise.
>
> I would tend to assume that the errors he reports (and others have seen)
> "connection time out" "connection refused" and "no route to host" would
> be permanent, but they might equally well be the result of heavy load on
> the recipient server or network problems.
>
> d.
>
>
>
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RE: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by Jason Webb <jw...@inovem.com>.
Qmail has an error code for transient errors and another one for perms.
I personally think that it's a site config issue. If the mail MUST get
through then by all means assume transient first. If you want a lower
server load, assume permanent instead.
The errors mentioned below I would regard as transients as they may
resolve themselves shortly. SMTP errors such as "No account" etc should
be permanent.
When would James retry a transmission for a failure?
-- Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
Sent: 20 August 2002 10:48
To: James Developer List
Subject: RE: JAMES doesn't like
Andy Oliver wrote, in the users list:
> However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
> out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
> ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
> Any thoughts?
I've spotted this in remote delivery:
//Assume it is a permanent exception, or prove ourselves
otherwise
boolean permanent = true;
I wonder if we shouldn't assume that it is a transient error unless we
can prove otherwise.
I would tend to assume that the errors he reports (and others have seen)
"connection time out" "connection refused" and "no route to host" would
be permanent, but they might equally well be the result of heavy load on
the recipient server or network problems.
d.
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RE: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
Andy Oliver wrote, in the users list:
> However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
> out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
> ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
> Any thoughts?
I've spotted this in remote delivery:
//Assume it is a permanent exception, or prove ourselves otherwise
boolean permanent = true;
I wonder if we shouldn't assume that it is a transient error unless we can
prove otherwise.
I would tend to assume that the errors he reports (and others have seen)
"connection time out" "connection refused" and "no route to host"
would be permanent, but they might equally well be the result of heavy load
on the recipient server or network problems.
d.
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RE: JAMES doesn't like
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
I've had a related problem which I fixed by providing a longer list of
faster DNS servers.
Doesn't address the root cause, but did cure the symptom.
d.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver
> Sent: 15 August 2002 13:08
> To: james-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: JAMES doesn't like
>
>
> I have my dns server set up:
>
> <dnsserver>
> <servers>
> <server>199.172.1.1</server>
> <!--<server> put extra dns server address here </server>-->
> </servers>
> <authoritative>false</authoritative>
> </dnsserver>
>
> However a lot of mail I send is getting bounced with "connection time
> out" "connection refused" and "no route to host". I send mail via my
> ISP's SMTP and often it gets there...
>
> An nslookup going to the same name server seems to be working.
>
> Just so you believe that these people exist... I don't think IBM has
> gone out of business:
>
> 1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Temporary
> exception deli
> vering mail (Mail1029412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com:
> javax.mail.Messaging
> Exception: There are no DNS entries for the hostname us.ibm.com. I
> cannot deter
> mine where to send this message.
> at
> org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.deliver(RemoteDeliv
> ery.java:157)
> at
> org.apache.james.transport.mailets.RemoteDelivery.run(RemoteDelivery.
> java:449)
> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
>
> 1029412226368 [INFO ] (James.Mailet): RemoteDelivery: Storing message
> Mail1029
> 412158995-69-!856422825-to-us.ibm.com into outgoing after 0 retries
>
> That bounced and I got a mail from "postmaster" at my domain..
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -Andy
>
>
>
>
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