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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> on 2004/12/30 00:44:07 UTC
TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:19:25 -0800, Nathan Bubna wrote:
> You can indeed use Velocity+Tiles:
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/tools/javadoc/org/apache/velocity/t
> ools/struts/TilesTool.html
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:41:38 -0700, David Geary wrote:
> I have extracted a standalone version of Tiles from Struts 1.1.
> I've implemented a TilesServlet for using Tiles outside of Struts
> and a JSF view handler that forwards to a tile instead of a JSP
> page. I also have some cool examples.
>
> I was on the verge of starting an open source project for
> standalone Tiles that would focus on integration with other
> presentation technologies besides Struts, such as JSF, Velocity,
> Tapestry, etc. I want a Tiles version that I can use with JSP only,
> or with the framework of my choice. And I want Tiles to be
> integrated as smoothly as possible with my framework. I don't want
> to have to drag Struts around to do that.
>
> So, I'm not sure what to do with my code. Do my goals for a
> standalone Tiles align with the goals for the Tiles subproject
> within Struts?
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:20:37 +0100, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> We have some extra components in MyFaces. Custom validators based
> on Commons Validator. Now I am about to include a RenderKit for
> WML. Also support for Tiles see:
> http://www.apache.org/~matzew/myfaces-tiles-example.war Perhaps we
> could bring the MyFaces' TilesViewHandler to David's coming Tiles
> project.
> BTW. I would like to see this project inside of Apache ...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:51:38 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
> Incubation doesn't have to be a lengthy process.
>
> * Float a proposal on general@incubator
> * Setup the usual resources (lists, issues, repository, website,
> status file) * Tick off the boxes on the incubator check list *
> Apply to exit
>
> If the Contributor License Agreements are already on file,
> conceivably, it could all be done the same week.
>
> All you really need is a Member to advocate the proposal.
>
> I could do it, but I already have two projects in incubation, so if
> there were another volunteer, that would be better.
Since there seems to be interest, why don't I setup the usual proposal on the incubator wiki, and we can see who signs up.
Even if we were able to dodge "incubation" per se, we would still need to bring a resolution to the board, and do all the same infrastructure things.
David, if you wanted to contribute the package you extracted to Struts, as Martin indicated, it would make it easier to frame the proposal. Then, we could just remove it from the Core, rather than extract it, and when the time comes, just move it from one Apache instance to another. As mentioned, we can restore your karma upon request. (Merit never expires.) All you would need to do is file a CLA [http://apache.org/licenses/icla.txt] and ask us to update your status.
-Ted.
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by Martin Cooper <mf...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:43:53 -0600, Vic <vi...@friendvu.com> wrote:
>
> For the slow people: Is Tiles moving as it's own Apache project... not a
> Struts sub-project?
Yah, I'm pretty sure that's what the "TopLevel" means in the name of
the "TilesTopLevel" wiki page. ;-)
> (I do not care, just... I assumed that since Struts was a Top level
> project, it had freedom to do as it pleases)
Up to a point, yes. But I think with Tiles, the idea is that it
shouldn't be tied to any one framework, so it makes more sense for it
to live an independent life, rather than be buried within Struts. That
will give it greater visibility, hopefully leading to more widespread
adoption, and the option of collecting together the Tiles adapters for
multiple frameworks, such as Struts, Velocity and MyFaces, for
starters.
--
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by Vic <vi...@friendvu.com>.
For the slow people: Is Tiles moving as it's own Apache project... not a
Struts sub-project?
(I do not care, just... I assumed that since Struts was a Top level
project, it had freedom to do as it pleases)
.V
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by Martin Cooper <mf...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 20:24:45 -0500, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> OK, there's a draft proposal up at [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel].
I noticed that the proposal mentions Jira. Without getting into a big
flap about which one is better, I just wanted to point out that it
would be much simpler to reallocate bugs in the Struts bug database to
Tiles if Tiles uses Bugzilla.
--
Martin Cooper
> [Tell you what, after working in Confluence all day, Moin Moin feels like a jalopy :)]
>
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:10:45 -0700, David Geary wrote:
> > Le Dec 29, 2004, à 4:44 PM, Ted Husted a écrit :
> >
> >> Since there seems to be interest, why don't I setup the usual
> >> proposal on the incubator wiki, and we can see who signs up.
> >>
> >> Even if we were able to dodge "incubation" per se, we would still
> >> need to bring a resolution to the board, and do all the same
> >> infrastructure things.
> >>
> >
> > Excellent. I'm really excited about this. Let's do it.
> >
> >> David, if you wanted to contribute the package you extracted to
> >> Struts, as Martin indicated, it would make it easier to frame the
> >> proposal.
> >>
> >
> > Sure, I'd be happy to do that.
> >
> >> Then, we could just remove it from the Core, rather than extract
> >> it, and when the time comes, just move it from one Apache
> >> instance to another.
> >>
> >
> > Okay.
> >
> >> As mentioned, we can restore your karma upon request. (Merit
> >> never expires.) All you would need to do is file a CLA
> >> [http://apache.org/licenses/icla.txt] and ask us to update your
> >> status.
> >>
> >
> > I'll do that also.
> >
> >
> > david
> >
> >>
> >> -Ted.
>
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by David Geary <sa...@earthlink.net>.
This is great news. Thanks, Ted.
david
Le Jan 6, 2005, à 8:24 PM, Ted Husted a écrit :
> OK, there's a draft proposal up at
> [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel].
>
> [Tell you what, after working in Confluence all day, Moin Moin feels
> like a jalopy :)]
>
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:10:45 -0700, David Geary wrote:
>> Le Dec 29, 2004, à 4:44 PM, Ted Husted a écrit :
>>
>>> Since there seems to be interest, why don't I setup the usual
>>> proposal on the incubator wiki, and we can see who signs up.
>>>
>>> Even if we were able to dodge "incubation" per se, we would still
>>> need to bring a resolution to the board, and do all the same
>>> infrastructure things.
>>>
>>
>> Excellent. I'm really excited about this. Let's do it.
>>
>>> David, if you wanted to contribute the package you extracted to
>>> Struts, as Martin indicated, it would make it easier to frame the
>>> proposal.
>>>
>>
>> Sure, I'd be happy to do that.
>>
>>> Then, we could just remove it from the Core, rather than extract
>>> it, and when the time comes, just move it from one Apache
>>> instance to another.
>>>
>>
>> Okay.
>>
>>> As mentioned, we can restore your karma upon request. (Merit
>>> never expires.) All you would need to do is file a CLA
>>> [http://apache.org/licenses/icla.txt] and ask us to update your
>>> status.
>>>
>>
>> I'll do that also.
>>
>>
>> david
>>
>>>
>>> -Ted.
>
>
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by Levieux Cedric <ce...@europatrust.com>.
Hi,
+1 too cause it save a lot of work for any jsp pages struts or not and it's
a really mature project.
By the way it really need to be extended.
Regards,
Cedric Levieux
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>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'am +1 in Tiles becoming a top level project, or at least to be
> extracted from the Struts core.
> You can add me in the set of initial committersin the draft proposal,
> if you agree.
>
> Cedric
>
>
> Ted Husted wrote:
>
> >OK, there's a draft proposal up at
[http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel].
> >
> >[Tell you what, after working in Confluence all day, Moin Moin feels like
a jalopy :)]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
It's a wiki, Cedric :) -- Feel free to add your own name, as well as any other likely changes. :)
-Ted.
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 17:53:07 +0100, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'am +1 in Tiles becoming a top level project, or at least to be
> extracted from the Struts core.
> You can add me in the set of initial committersin the draft
> proposal, if you agree.
>
> Cedric
>
>
> Ted Husted wrote:
>
>> OK, there's a draft proposal up at
>> [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel].
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by Cedric Dumoulin <ce...@lifl.fr>.
Hello everybody,
I'am +1 in Tiles becoming a top level project, or at least to be
extracted from the Struts core.
You can add me in the set of initial committersin the draft proposal,
if you agree.
Cedric
Ted Husted wrote:
>OK, there's a draft proposal up at [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel].
>
>[Tell you what, after working in Confluence all day, Moin Moin feels like a jalopy :)]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
OK, there's a draft proposal up at [http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel].
[Tell you what, after working in Confluence all day, Moin Moin feels like a jalopy :)]
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:10:45 -0700, David Geary wrote:
> Le Dec 29, 2004, à 4:44 PM, Ted Husted a écrit :
>
>> Since there seems to be interest, why don't I setup the usual
>> proposal on the incubator wiki, and we can see who signs up.
>>
>> Even if we were able to dodge "incubation" per se, we would still
>> need to bring a resolution to the board, and do all the same
>> infrastructure things.
>>
>
> Excellent. I'm really excited about this. Let's do it.
>
>> David, if you wanted to contribute the package you extracted to
>> Struts, as Martin indicated, it would make it easier to frame the
>> proposal.
>>
>
> Sure, I'd be happy to do that.
>
>> Then, we could just remove it from the Core, rather than extract
>> it, and when the time comes, just move it from one Apache
>> instance to another.
>>
>
> Okay.
>
>> As mentioned, we can restore your karma upon request. (Merit
>> never expires.) All you would need to do is file a CLA
>> [http://apache.org/licenses/icla.txt] and ask us to update your
>> status.
>>
>
> I'll do that also.
>
>
> david
>
>>
>> -Ted.
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Re: TL Tiles (was Re: Taglibs and Tiles Extraction Issues)
Posted by David Geary <sa...@earthlink.net>.
Le Dec 29, 2004, à 4:44 PM, Ted Husted a écrit :
> Since there seems to be interest, why don't I setup the usual proposal
> on the incubator wiki, and we can see who signs up.
>
> Even if we were able to dodge "incubation" per se, we would still need
> to bring a resolution to the board, and do all the same infrastructure
> things.
Excellent. I'm really excited about this. Let's do it.
> David, if you wanted to contribute the package you extracted to
> Struts, as Martin indicated, it would make it easier to frame the
> proposal.
Sure, I'd be happy to do that.
> Then, we could just remove it from the Core, rather than extract it,
> and when the time comes, just move it from one Apache instance to
> another.
Okay.
> As mentioned, we can restore your karma upon request. (Merit never
> expires.) All you would need to do is file a CLA
> [http://apache.org/licenses/icla.txt] and ask us to update your
> status.
I'll do that also.
david
>
> -Ted.
>
>
>
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