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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by ZuoJun Chen <zj...@gmail.com> on 2012/07/11 11:17:57 UTC
[Proposal] implement the underline color im/export in Writer for MS filter
Hi, all
I often received Word documents underlined with different colors for
highlighting
the important parts of content. However, the underline color of text would
always become
automatic black color in Apache Open Office, which is the mostly used word
processor
in my daily work. It is annoying that I have to switch between Writer and
MS Word in this case.
I want underline color can be supported in Writer when open or save as Word
document.
thus I have investigated how underline color works in document model and
write a wiki for my idea,
see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Underline_Color.
Currently I would like to work on support im/export underline color in
Writer WW8 filter,
furthermore, I want to support underline color import for OOXML format
document,
which is quite different from MS binary format. Is there anyone find this
feature useful for your work?
Any comment or suggestion would be appreciated.
Regards - Zuojun
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Peter Brawley <pe...@earthlink.net>.
On 2012-07-17 10:03 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> ________________________________
> ...
>> On 2012-07-17 9:01 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> ...
>>> Most of us simply don't run LibreOffice
>> That seems unfortunate, why wouldn't AOO developers want to keep up to
>> date with their main competition?
>
> "Competition" among free software is somewhat of a non-concept.
I work mainly with MySQL. Competition has always been a concept.
> Technically,
> MS-office is also our competitor.
Sure.
>
>> Yes obviously that's a possibility. I was hoping for a shortcut, and for
>> info that transcends my experience. Evidently it's not going to happen here.
>>
> If it serves your purpose, the SVG drawing feature seems to be well
> received by our users but in general in AOO we are focusing more on making
> the product really stable and well behaved on all supported platforms rather
> than on adding new features.
Thanks.
PB
-----
>
> best regards,
>
> Pedro.
>
>
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
________________________________
...
>
>On 2012-07-17 9:01 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
...
>>
>> Most of us simply don't run LibreOffice
>That seems unfortunate, why wouldn't AOO developers want to keep up to
>date with their main competition?
"Competition" among free software is somewhat of a non-concept. Technically,
MS-office is also our competitor.
>
>Yes obviously that's a possibility. I was hoping for a shortcut, and for
>info that transcends my experience. Evidently it's not going to happen here.
>
If it serves your purpose, the SVG drawing feature seems to be well
received by our users but in general in AOO we are focusing more on making
the product really stable and well behaved on all supported platforms rather
than on adding new features.
best regards,
Pedro.
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 7/18/12 4:11 AM, Peter Brawley wrote:
> On 2012-07-17 9:01 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>> Hi Peter;
>>
>> I am going to be honest with you. Some people like to make asses of
>> themselves inpublic by posting comparisons of software they develop
>> against software that they have never tried (Hi Michael!).
> ?!
>>
>> Most of us simply don't run LibreOffice
> That seems unfortunate, why wouldn't AOO developers want to keep up to
> date with their main competition?
why do you think that, we don't see them as our main competitor. Why
should we? They are based on the same code base, they rebase currently
to our latest code and they are constantly merging bug fixes and in the
future features as well from AOO into their code. They also do good work
and it would be great if we could combine our efforts.
We would be happy to work with the developers on the same code base
directly and invite every single individual developer to think about it.
If you want to reach most people with your development work, you should
join and start with AOO as the common base. The payment for open source
developers is fun in the project, and the wide usage of their work. Both
can you find here in our project and you can have influence on it, you
can help to drive the project and the success.
>>>> 8 Million downloads since we have released AOO 3.4.
A lot of work not only for developers, we can benefit from marketing
people, translators, testers, documentation authors, .... something to
do for everybody who is interested to work in such a huge open source
project.
Juergen
>> and it would not be honest to say
>> that we can be objective making such comparisons anyways.
>>
>> Both packages are free and have basically the same functionality, my
>> suggestion is to try them both and make your own comparison.
>
> Yes obviously that's a possibility. I was hoping for a shortcut, and for
> info that transcends my experience. Evidently it's not going to happen
> here.
>
> PB
>
> -----
>
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Pedro.
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Peter Brawley <pe...@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>> ...> Peter, I'm not going to argue with you. Google might be of more
>>>> utility here than posting such questions to a development list.
>>> ?! I'm looking for comparisons that have looked sensible to folks here.
>>>
>>> PB
>>>
>>>> Good luck with your search.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>> PB
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Writing reviews of our product is
>>>>>> something for others to do, not us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <an...@pitonyak.org>.
Peter, if you do create a feature comparison, I would be interested in
seeing what you create.
I use both, and to some extent it is related to a particular feature
that I need at the moment, or a bug that I want to avoid at the moment.
As an example, on one computer at an off-site location, I ended up
installing both AOO and LO. Ended up leaving LO because it supported
writing docx and the AO version that I had did not support writing DOCX
files. Unsure what was happening with that since I thought that they
both supported it but I was not sufficiently interested to track out
what was happening.
I expect that maintaining the list might be a lot of work, however.
--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Peter Brawley <pe...@earthlink.net>.
On 2012-07-17 9:01 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Hi Peter;
>
> I am going to be honest with you. Some people like to make asses of
> themselves inpublic by posting comparisons of software they develop
> against software that they have never tried (Hi Michael!).
?!
>
> Most of us simply don't run LibreOffice
That seems unfortunate, why wouldn't AOO developers want to keep up to
date with their main competition?
> and it would not be honest to say
> that we can be objective making such comparisons anyways.
>
> Both packages are free and have basically the same functionality, my
> suggestion is to try them both and make your own comparison.
Yes obviously that's a possibility. I was hoping for a shortcut, and for
info that transcends my experience. Evidently it's not going to happen here.
PB
-----
>
> cheers,
>
> Pedro.
>
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Peter Brawley <pe...@earthlink.net>
>>
>> ...> Peter, I'm not going to argue with you. Google might be of more
>>> utility here than posting such questions to a development list.
>> ?! I'm looking for comparisons that have looked sensible to folks here.
>>
>> PB
>>
>>> Good luck with your search.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>> PB
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Writing reviews of our product is
>>>>> something for others to do, not us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>> P
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
Hi Peter;
I am going to be honest with you. Some people like to make asses of
themselves inpublic by posting comparisons of software they develop
against software that they have never tried (Hi Michael!).
Most of us simply don't run LibreOffice and it would not be honest to say
that we can be objective making such comparisons anyways.
Both packages are free and have basically the same functionality, my
suggestion is to try them both and make your own comparison.
cheers,
Pedro.
>________________________________
> From: Peter Brawley <pe...@earthlink.net>
>
>...> Peter, I'm not going to argue with you. Google might be of more
>> utility here than posting such questions to a development list.
>
>?! I'm looking for comparisons that have looked sensible to folks here.
>
>PB
>
>>
>> Good luck with your search.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> PB
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>>
>>>> Writing reviews of our product is
>>>> something for others to do, not us.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>> P
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Peter Brawley <pe...@earthlink.net>.
On 2012-07-17 7:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Peter Brawley
> <pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 2012-07-17 2:38 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Peter Brawley
>>> <pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Can anyone point me at up-to-date comparisons of AOO & LibreOffice?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> We don't have such a review here.
>>
>> Why would you think the request is for a review 'we' have here?
>>
> Peter, I'm not going to argue with you. Google might be of more
> utility here than posting such questions to a development list.
?! I'm looking for comparisons that have looked sensible to folks here.
PB
>
> Good luck with your search.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>> PB
>>
>> -----
>>
>>
>>> Writing reviews of our product is
>>> something for others to do, not us.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>> P
>>
>>
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Peter Brawley
<pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2012-07-17 2:38 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Peter Brawley
>> <pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone point me at up-to-date comparisons of AOO & LibreOffice?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> We don't have such a review here.
>
>
> Why would you think the request is for a review 'we' have here?
>
Peter, I'm not going to argue with you. Google might be of more
utility here than posting such questions to a development list.
Good luck with your search.
Regards,
-Rob
> PB
>
> -----
>
>
>> Writing reviews of our product is
>> something for others to do, not us.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>> P
>
>
>
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Peter Brawley <pe...@earthlink.net>.
On 2012-07-17 2:38 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Peter Brawley
> <pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Can anyone point me at up-to-date comparisons of AOO & LibreOffice? Thanks.
>>
> Peter,
>
> We don't have such a review here.
Why would you think the request is for a review 'we' have here?
PB
-----
> Writing reviews of our product is
> something for others to do, not us.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>> P
Re: AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Peter Brawley
<pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Can anyone point me at up-to-date comparisons of AOO & LibreOffice? Thanks.
>
Peter,
We don't have such a review here. Writing reviews of our product is
something for others to do, not us.
Regards,
-Rob
> P
AOO-LibreOffice comparison?
Posted by Peter Brawley <pe...@earthlink.net>.
Can anyone point me at up-to-date comparisons of AOO & LibreOffice? Thanks.
P
Re: [Proposal] implement the underline color im/export in Writer for
MS filter
Posted by Yong Lin Ma <ma...@apache.org>.
Zuo Jun,
This is a pure enhencment. You can just go ahead and call for review
when the fix is ready.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:17 PM, ZuoJun Chen <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, all
>
> I often received Word documents underlined with different colors for
> highlighting
>
> the important parts of content. However, the underline color of text would
> always become
>
> automatic black color in Apache Open Office, which is the mostly used word
> processor
>
> in my daily work. It is annoying that I have to switch between Writer and
> MS Word in this case.
>
> I want underline color can be supported in Writer when open or save as Word
> document.
>
> thus I have investigated how underline color works in document model and
> write a wiki for my idea,
>
> see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Underline_Color.
>
> Currently I would like to work on support im/export underline color in
> Writer WW8 filter,
>
> furthermore, I want to support underline color import for OOXML format
> document,
>
> which is quite different from MS binary format. Is there anyone find this
> feature useful for your work?
>
> Any comment or suggestion would be appreciated.
>
> Regards - Zuojun
Re: [Proposal] implement the underline color im/export in Writer for
MS filter
Posted by Zhe Liu <al...@gmail.com>.
+1. I like the proposal. Good work.
2012/7/11 ZuoJun Chen <zj...@gmail.com>:
> Hi, all
>
> I often received Word documents underlined with different colors for
> highlighting
>
> the important parts of content. However, the underline color of text would
> always become
>
> automatic black color in Apache Open Office, which is the mostly used word
> processor
>
> in my daily work. It is annoying that I have to switch between Writer and
> MS Word in this case.
>
> I want underline color can be supported in Writer when open or save as Word
> document.
>
> thus I have investigated how underline color works in document model and
> write a wiki for my idea,
>
> see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Underline_Color.
>
> Currently I would like to work on support im/export underline color in
> Writer WW8 filter,
>
> furthermore, I want to support underline color import for OOXML format
> document,
>
> which is quite different from MS binary format. Is there anyone find this
> feature useful for your work?
>
> Any comment or suggestion would be appreciated.
>
> Regards - Zuojun
--
Best Regards
>From aliuzhe@gmail.com
Re: [Proposal] implement the underline color im/export in Writer for
MS filter
Posted by chengjh <ch...@apache.org>.
I appreciate your effort to implement the MS Word binary filter on the
underline color of text.And I think the work is very valuable to improve
the fidelity with MS Word binary format.Please go ahead.Thanks.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:17 PM, ZuoJun Chen <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, all
>
> I often received Word documents underlined with different colors for
> highlighting
>
> the important parts of content. However, the underline color of text would
> always become
>
> automatic black color in Apache Open Office, which is the mostly used word
> processor
>
> in my daily work. It is annoying that I have to switch between Writer and
> MS Word in this case.
>
> I want underline color can be supported in Writer when open or save as Word
> document.
>
> thus I have investigated how underline color works in document model and
> write a wiki for my idea,
>
> see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Underline_Color.
>
> Currently I would like to work on support im/export underline color in
> Writer WW8 filter,
>
> furthermore, I want to support underline color import for OOXML format
> document,
>
> which is quite different from MS binary format. Is there anyone find this
> feature useful for your work?
>
> Any comment or suggestion would be appreciated.
>
> Regards - Zuojun
>
--
Best Regards,Jianhong Cheng