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Posted to dev@continuum.apache.org by Rahul Thakur <ra...@gmail.com> on 2008/04/02 11:40:27 UTC
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
Rahul
Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> [ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
>
> Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> ------------------------------------
>
> Fix Version/s: 2.0
>
>
>> User Interface improvements
>> ---------------------------
>>
>> Key: CONTINUUM-1669
>> URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
>> Project: Continuum
>> Issue Type: Improvement
>> Reporter: Rahul Thakur
>> Fix For: 2.0
>>
>>
>> Refer to detailed discussion here:
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
>>
>
>
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Jesse McConnell <je...@gmail.com>.
>
> > and LGPL would be fine so long as we are not modifying underlying
> > code...at
> > least that is what the MyGWT guys say on their license page..
>
>
> It isn't possible to use LGPL code/library in an ASF product
grumble...stoopid LGPL
>
> Emmanuel
>
> >
> >
> > jesse
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jesse McConnell <
> > > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just
> > 'good
> > > > enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to
> > really
> > > > get
> > > > a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> > > > component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
> > > > license
> > > > friendly.
> > >
> > >
> > > I wanted to look at them, but they are under LGPL :(
> > >
> > >
> > > > It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with
> > the
> > > > webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the
> > > messaging
> > > > bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I
> have
> > > > been
> > > > working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd
> for
> > a
> > > > long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push
> events
> > > > back
> > > > to the client when something happens that the client should be
> > notified
> > > > about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a
> simple
> > > > format
> > > > for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice
> > setup
> > > > and
> > > > scales nicely.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know cometd.
> > > About JSON, I think it would be good to use it because it is a
> > > "standard"
> > > that can be used by lot of tools: GWT, Adobe AIR, YUI...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
> > >
> > >
> > > sure
> > >
> > >
> > > > jesse
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > > > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all
> issues
> > > > > targeted
> > > > > to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think
> to
> > > the
> > > > > file
> > > > > browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write
> a
> > > > > schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in
> > human
> > > > text
> > > > > the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run
> > > every
> > > > > hour".
> > > > >
> > > > > About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some
> > > things
> > > > > about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at
> > one
> > > > > place
> > > > > without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want
> more
> > > > > information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now
> :)
> > > ).
> > > > > You
> > > > > can see my work there:
> > > > > http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be
> > something
> > > > to
> > > > > start discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Emmanuel
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur <
> > > > rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the
> UI
> > > and
> > > > > > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the
> GWT
> > > UI?
> > > > I
> > > > > > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does any one has any other thoughts on this?
> Changes/improvements
> > in
> > > > UI
> > > > > > design from a usability perspective?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brett Porter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > > > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Brett Porter
> > > > > > > brett@apache.org
> > > > > > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > jesse mcconnell
> > > > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > jesse mcconnell
> > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
> >
>
--
jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
A good site about all GWT resources: http://www.ongwt.com
Emmanuel
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Jesse McConnell <
> jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't think we'll ever be happy with standard GWT...so we'll have to
> > find
> > something if that is the way we want to go..
>
>
> I'm pretty sure some components are available under ASL compliant license.
>
>
> >
> >
> > and LGPL would be fine so long as we are not modifying underlying
> > code...at
> > least that is what the MyGWT guys say on their license page..
>
>
> It isn't possible to use LGPL code/library in an ASF product
>
> Emmanuel
>
> >
> >
> > jesse
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jesse McConnell <
> > > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just
> > 'good
> > > > enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to
> > really
> > > > get
> > > > a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> > > > component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
> > > > license
> > > > friendly.
> > >
> > >
> > > I wanted to look at them, but they are under LGPL :(
> > >
> > >
> > > > It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with
> > the
> > > > webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the
> > > messaging
> > > > bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd
> > for a
> > > > long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push
> > events
> > > > back
> > > > to the client when something happens that the client should be
> > notified
> > > > about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a
> > simple
> > > > format
> > > > for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice
> > setup
> > > > and
> > > > scales nicely.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know cometd.
> > > About JSON, I think it would be good to use it because it is a
> > > "standard"
> > > that can be used by lot of tools: GWT, Adobe AIR, YUI...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
> > >
> > >
> > > sure
> > >
> > >
> > > > jesse
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > > > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all
> > issues
> > > > > targeted
> > > > > to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think
> > to
> > > the
> > > > > file
> > > > > browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write
> > a
> > > > > schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in
> > human
> > > > text
> > > > > the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run
> > > every
> > > > > hour".
> > > > >
> > > > > About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some
> > > things
> > > > > about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at
> > one
> > > > > place
> > > > > without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want
> > more
> > > > > information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now
> > :)
> > > ).
> > > > > You
> > > > > can see my work there:
> > > > > http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be
> > something
> > > > to
> > > > > start discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Emmanuel
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur <
> > > > rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the
> > UI
> > > and
> > > > > > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the
> > GWT
> > > UI?
> > > > I
> > > > > > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does any one has any other thoughts on this?
> > Changes/improvements in
> > > > UI
> > > > > > design from a usability perspective?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brett Porter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > > > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Brett Porter
> > > > > > > brett@apache.org
> > > > > > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > jesse mcconnell
> > > > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > jesse mcconnell
> > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
> >
>
>
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Jesse McConnell <je...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I don't think we'll ever be happy with standard GWT...so we'll have to
> find
> something if that is the way we want to go..
I'm pretty sure some components are available under ASL compliant license.
>
>
> and LGPL would be fine so long as we are not modifying underlying
> code...at
> least that is what the MyGWT guys say on their license page..
It isn't possible to use LGPL code/library in an ASF product
Emmanuel
>
>
> jesse
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jesse McConnell <
> > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just
> 'good
> > > enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to
> really
> > > get
> > > a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> > > component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
> > > license
> > > friendly.
> >
> >
> > I wanted to look at them, but they are under LGPL :(
> >
> >
> > > It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with
> the
> > > webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the
> > messaging
> > > bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I have
> > > been
> > > working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd for
> a
> > > long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push events
> > > back
> > > to the client when something happens that the client should be
> notified
> > > about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a simple
> > > format
> > > for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice
> setup
> > > and
> > > scales nicely.
> >
> >
> > I don't know cometd.
> > About JSON, I think it would be good to use it because it is a
> > "standard"
> > that can be used by lot of tools: GWT, Adobe AIR, YUI...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
> >
> >
> > sure
> >
> >
> > > jesse
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues
> > > > targeted
> > > > to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to
> > the
> > > > file
> > > > browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
> > > > schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in
> human
> > > text
> > > > the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run
> > every
> > > > hour".
> > > >
> > > > About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some
> > things
> > > > about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at
> one
> > > > place
> > > > without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
> > > > information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :)
> > ).
> > > > You
> > > > can see my work there:
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be
> something
> > > to
> > > > start discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Emmanuel
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur <
> > > rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI
> > and
> > > > > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT
> > UI?
> > > I
> > > > > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements
> in
> > > UI
> > > > > design from a usability perspective?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Rahul
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brett Porter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Brett Porter
> > > > > > brett@apache.org
> > > > > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > jesse mcconnell
> > > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> jesse mcconnell
> jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
>
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Jesse McConnell <je...@gmail.com>.
I don't think we'll ever be happy with standard GWT...so we'll have to find
something if that is the way we want to go..
and LGPL would be fine so long as we are not modifying underlying code...at
least that is what the MyGWT guys say on their license page..
jesse
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jesse McConnell <
> jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just 'good
> > enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to really
> > get
> > a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> > component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
> > license
> > friendly.
>
>
> I wanted to look at them, but they are under LGPL :(
>
>
> > It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with the
> > webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the
> messaging
> > bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I have
> > been
> > working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd for a
> > long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push events
> > back
> > to the client when something happens that the client should be notified
> > about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a simple
> > format
> > for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice setup
> > and
> > scales nicely.
>
>
> I don't know cometd.
> About JSON, I think it would be good to use it because it is a
> "standard"
> that can be used by lot of tools: GWT, Adobe AIR, YUI...
>
> >
> >
> > Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
>
>
> sure
>
>
> > jesse
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues
> > > targeted
> > > to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to
> the
> > > file
> > > browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
> > > schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in human
> > text
> > > the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run
> every
> > > hour".
> > >
> > > About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some
> things
> > > about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at one
> > > place
> > > without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
> > > information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :)
> ).
> > > You
> > > can see my work there:
> > > http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > >
> > > I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be something
> > to
> > > start discussion.
> > >
> > > Emmanuel
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur <
> > rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI
> and
> > > > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT
> UI?
> > I
> > > > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> > > >
> > > > Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in
> > UI
> > > > design from a usability perspective?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Rahul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brett Porter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > [
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Brett Porter
> > > > > brett@apache.org
> > > > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > jesse mcconnell
> > jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
> >
>
--
jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jesse McConnell <je...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just 'good
> enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to really
> get
> a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
> license
> friendly.
I wanted to look at them, but they are under LGPL :(
> It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with the
> webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the messaging
> bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I have
> been
> working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd for a
> long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push events
> back
> to the client when something happens that the client should be notified
> about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a simple
> format
> for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice setup
> and
> scales nicely.
I don't know cometd.
About JSON, I think it would be good to use it because it is a "standard"
that can be used by lot of tools: GWT, Adobe AIR, YUI...
>
>
> Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
sure
> jesse
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues
> > targeted
> > to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to the
> > file
> > browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
> > schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in human
> text
> > the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run every
> > hour".
> >
> > About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some things
> > about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at one
> > place
> > without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
> > information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :) ).
> > You
> > can see my work there:
> > http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> >
> > I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be something
> to
> > start discussion.
> >
> > Emmanuel
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur <
> rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI and
> > > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> > >
> > > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT UI?
> I
> > > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> > >
> > > Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in
> UI
> > > design from a usability perspective?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Rahul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brett Porter wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > > >
> > > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rahul
> > > > >
> > > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > [
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > > > > > ]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Brett Porter
> > > > brett@apache.org
> > > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> jesse mcconnell
> jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
>
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Jesse McConnell <je...@gmail.com>.
not if you wrap them in comments which is pretty standard fair from what I
can tell
jesse
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Rahul Thakur <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I heard there were security exploits out there in the bad bad world with
> JSON?
>
> Rahul
>
> Jesse McConnell wrote:
>
> > the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just 'good
> > enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to really
> > get
> > a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> > component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
> > license
> > friendly.
> >
> > It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with the
> > webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the
> > messaging
> > bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I have
> > been
> > working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd for a
> > long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push events
> > back
> > to the client when something happens that the client should be notified
> > about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a simple
> > format
> > for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice setup
> > and
> > scales nicely.
> >
> > Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
> >
> > jesse
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse<
> > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues
> > > targeted
> > > to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to
> > > the
> > > file
> > > browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
> > > schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in human
> > > text
> > > the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run
> > > every
> > > hour".
> > >
> > > About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some
> > > things
> > > about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at one
> > > place
> > > without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
> > > information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :)
> > > ).
> > > You
> > > can see my work there:
> > > http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be something
> > > to
> > > start discussion.
> > >
> > > Emmanuel
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur<
> > > rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI and
> > > > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT
> > > > UI? I
> > > > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> > > >
> > > > Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in
> > > > UI
> > > > design from a usability perspective?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Rahul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brett Porter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > >
> > > > ]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > Brett Porter
> > > > > brett@apache.org
> > > > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
> >
--
jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Rahul Thakur <ra...@gmail.com>.
You can try this with Google:
http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=JSON+security+exploits
Quite a few articles out there.
Rahul
Emmanuel Venisse wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Rahul Thakur<ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I heard there were security exploits out there in the bad bad world with
>> JSON?
>
>
> Do you have a link?
>
>
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>>
>> Jesse McConnell wrote:
>>
>>> the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just 'good
>>> enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to really
>>> get
>>> a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
>>> component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
>>> license
>>> friendly.
>>>
>>> It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with the
>>> webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the
>>> messaging
>>> bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I have
>>> been
>>> working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd for a
>>> long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push events
>>> back
>>> to the client when something happens that the client should be notified
>>> about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a simple
>>> format
>>> for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice setup
>>> and
>>> scales nicely.
>>>
>>> Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
>>>
>>> jesse
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse<
>>> emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues
>>>> targeted
>>>> to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to
>>>> the
>>>> file
>>>> browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
>>>> schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in human
>>>> text
>>>> the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run
>>>> every
>>>> hour".
>>>>
>>>> About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some
>>>> things
>>>> about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at one
>>>> place
>>>> without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
>>>> information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :)
>>>> ).
>>>> You
>>>> can see my work there:
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
>>>> <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be something
>>>> to
>>>> start discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Emmanuel
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur<
>>>> rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI and
>>>>> rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT
>>>>> UI? I
>>>>> did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in
>>>>> UI
>>>>> design from a usability perspective?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brett Porter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, if someone is working on it :)
>>>>>> On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
>>>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>>>>
>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>> Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fix Version/s: 2.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> User Interface improvements
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Key: CONTINUUM-1669
>>>>>>>>> URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
>>>>>>>>> Project: Continuum
>>>>>>>>> Issue Type: Improvement
>>>>>>>>> Reporter: Rahul Thakur
>>>>>>>>> Fix For: 2.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Refer to detailed discussion here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Brett Porter
>>>>>> brett@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Rahul Thakur <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I heard there were security exploits out there in the bad bad world with
> JSON?
Do you have a link?
>
>
> Rahul
>
>
> Jesse McConnell wrote:
>
> > the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just 'good
> > enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to really
> > get
> > a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> > component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are
> > license
> > friendly.
> >
> > It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with the
> > webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the
> > messaging
> > bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I have
> > been
> > working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd for a
> > long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push events
> > back
> > to the client when something happens that the client should be notified
> > about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a simple
> > format
> > for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice setup
> > and
> > scales nicely.
> >
> > Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
> >
> > jesse
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse<
> > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues
> > > targeted
> > > to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to
> > > the
> > > file
> > > browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
> > > schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in human
> > > text
> > > the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run
> > > every
> > > hour".
> > >
> > > About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some
> > > things
> > > about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at one
> > > place
> > > without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
> > > information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :)
> > > ).
> > > You
> > > can see my work there:
> > > http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > > <http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
> > >
> > > I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be something
> > > to
> > > start discussion.
> > >
> > > Emmanuel
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur<
> > > rahul.thakur.xdev@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI and
> > > > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT
> > > > UI? I
> > > > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> > > >
> > > > Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in
> > > > UI
> > > > design from a usability perspective?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Rahul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brett Porter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rahul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > >
> > > > ]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > Brett Porter
> > > > > brett@apache.org
> > > > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
> >
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Rahul Thakur <ra...@gmail.com>.
I heard there were security exploits out there in the bad bad world with
JSON?
Rahul
Jesse McConnell wrote:
> the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just 'good
> enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to really get
> a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
> component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are license
> friendly.
>
> It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with the
> webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the messaging
> bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I have been
> working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd for a
> long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push events back
> to the client when something happens that the client should be notified
> about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a simple format
> for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice setup and
> scales nicely.
>
> Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
>
> jesse
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse<em...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues
>> targeted
>> to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to the
>> file
>> browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
>> schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in human text
>> the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run every
>> hour".
>>
>> About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some things
>> about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at one
>> place
>> without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
>> information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :) ).
>> You
>> can see my work there:
>> http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
>>
>> I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be something to
>> start discussion.
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur<ra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI and
>>> rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
>>>
>>> Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT UI? I
>>> did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
>>>
>>> Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in UI
>>> design from a usability perspective?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brett Porter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, if someone is working on it :)
>>>>
>>>> On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>
>>>>> Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fix Version/s: 2.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> User Interface improvements
>>>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Key: CONTINUUM-1669
>>>>>>> URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
>>>>>>> Project: Continuum
>>>>>>> Issue Type: Improvement
>>>>>>> Reporter: Rahul Thakur
>>>>>>> Fix For: 2.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Refer to detailed discussion here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brett Porter
>>>> brett@apache.org
>>>> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Jesse McConnell <je...@gmail.com>.
the other thing to consider about GWT is that the basics are just 'good
enough' to get very far in the design and layout of the page...to really get
a sweet looking webapp you _really_ need to start looking into other
component libraries like GWT-Ext or MyGWT both of which I think are license
friendly.
It is also easy to get into just as convoluted mess as we have with the
webwork setup. Also on the table in this layer of design is the messaging
bus of the webapp client side where I would recommend the setup I have been
working with on the jetty side of things where we would use cometd for a
long-polling connection, then the server side can initiate push events back
to the client when something happens that the client should be notified
about. The communication back and forth is in JSON which is a simple format
for data going back and forth across the wire. Its a pretty nice setup and
scales nicely.
Lots of things to consider once we decide to reinvent the ui.
jesse
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues
> targeted
> to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to the
> file
> browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
> schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in human text
> the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run every
> hour".
>
> About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some things
> about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at one
> place
> without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
> information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :) ).
> You
> can see my work there:
> http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Eevenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html>
>
> I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be something to
> start discussion.
>
> Emmanuel
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur <ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI and
> > rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
> >
> > Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT UI? I
> > did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
> >
> > Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in UI
> > design from a usability perspective?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rahul
> >
> >
> >
> > Brett Porter wrote:
> >
> > > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> > >
> > > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > > >
> > > > Rahul
> > > >
> > > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > [
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > > > > ]
> > > > >
> > > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Brett Porter
> > > brett@apache.org
> > > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
--
jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconnell@gmail.com
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
I don't think we'll can work a lot about GWT in 1.2 with all issues targeted
to this version, but we can include some GWT components. I think to the file
browser in the working copy page and a user friendly page to write a
schedule with for example a text part where it will be write in human text
the definition of the cron expression like "This schedule will run every
hour".
About my GWT test, I created something few months ago. It is some things
about how to show all informations about groups/projects/builds at one place
without to click on few pages to see informations. If user want more
information, it click on the link in the menu (blank page for now :) ). You
can see my work there:
http://people.apache.org/~evenisse/continuum_gwt/Continuum.html
I don't think it should be the result we want, but it can be something to
start discussion.
Emmanuel
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Rahul Thakur <ra...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI and
> rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
>
> Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT UI? I
> did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
>
> Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in UI
> design from a usability perspective?
>
> Cheers,
> Rahul
>
>
>
> Brett Porter wrote:
>
> > Sure, if someone is working on it :)
> >
> > On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
> > >
> > > Rahul
> > >
> > > Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
> > >
> > > > [
> > > >
> > > > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> > > > ]
> > > >
> > > > Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Fix Version/s: 2.0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > User Interface improvements
> > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Key: CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
> > > > > Project: Continuum
> > > > > Issue Type: Improvement
> > > > > Reporter: Rahul Thakur
> > > > > Fix For: 2.0
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Refer to detailed discussion here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > --
> > Brett Porter
> > brett@apache.org
> > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
> >
> >
> >
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Rahul Thakur <ra...@gmail.com>.
I know it sounds crazy, but I'd still like to work through the UI and
rework it using GWT for 1.2/1.3 ;-)
Emmanuel - do you want to talk about the work you did with the GWT UI? I
did some work as well but its in my local SVN.
Does any one has any other thoughts on this? Changes/improvements in UI
design from a usability perspective?
Cheers,
Rahul
Brett Porter wrote:
> Sure, if someone is working on it :)
>
> On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
>
>>
>> Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>> Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
>>> [
>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>>> ]
>>>
>>> Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Fix Version/s: 2.0
>>>
>>>
>>>> User Interface improvements
>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Key: CONTINUUM-1669
>>>> URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
>>>> Project: Continuum
>>>> Issue Type: Improvement
>>>> Reporter: Rahul Thakur
>>>> Fix For: 2.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Refer to detailed discussion here:
>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
>
>
Re: [jira] Updated: (CONTINUUM-1669) User Interface improvements
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Sure, if someone is working on it :)
On 02/04/2008, at 8:40 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote:
>
> Should we target this for 1.2/1.3 instead?
>
> Rahul
>
> Brett Porter (JIRA) wrote:
>> [ http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>> ]
>>
>> Brett Porter updated CONTINUUM-1669:
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Fix Version/s: 2.0
>>
>>
>>> User Interface improvements
>>> ---------------------------
>>>
>>> Key: CONTINUUM-1669
>>> URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1669
>>> Project: Continuum
>>> Issue Type: Improvement
>>> Reporter: Rahul Thakur
>>> Fix For: 2.0
>>>
>>>
>>> Refer to detailed discussion here:
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUMDEV/UI+improvements
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/