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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> on 2014/09/24 15:00:41 UTC
ApacheCon Austin keynotes
I'm starting to look for keynotes for ApacheCon Austin. I have one
locked in already, and wanted to let people here know about it.
ApacheCon Austin happens to take place 20 years to the week from the
very first public release of the Apache Web Server that started all of
this. Brian Behlendorf will be giving a keynote in Austin talking about
the lessons of 20 years, and about the progress we've made since then.
I've received numerous recommendations of other possible keynotes, and I
need to put these somewhere to track them other than my inbox, and I
hope to be doing that before the end of this week, so that we can have
some transparency around the selection process.
--Rich
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 09/24/2014 07:51 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>> I've received numerous recommendations of other possible keynotes, and I
>> need to put these somewhere to track them other than my inbox, and I hope to
>> be doing that before the end of this week, so that we can have some
>> transparency around the selection process.
> Would a wiki page to track it all be a reasonable solution?
I've put a wiki page up at
https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/KeynotesUS15 where we can track
suggestions so far. I will update that with the suggestions that people
have sent in, later today. (Need to prepare for another meeting now.)
If you don't have edit permission to that page, please contact myself or
humbedooh@apache.org off-list with your wiki username, and we'll add you
to the authorized list.
--Rich
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Rainer Jung <ra...@kippdata.de>.
Am 25.09.2014 um 14:50 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>> We have an ApacheCon wiki, but managing permissions on it has been
>> non-obvious to me so far. Nick sent me instructions a while back and I can't
>> find them right now...
>
> AFAIK you should be added to
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/AdminGroup to be able to manage
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ContributorsGroup - I don't have
> karma to help unfortunately.
Me neither, but I can see that Gavin, Nick and Shane are admins.
Regards,
Rainer
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 09/25/2014 08:50 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>> We have an ApacheCon wiki, but managing permissions on it has been
>> non-obvious to me so far. Nick sent me instructions a while back and I can't
>> find them right now...
> AFAIK you should be added to
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/AdminGroup to be able to manage
> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ContributorsGroup - I don't have
> karma to help unfortunately.
>
Yeah, I don't appear to have karma to edit that page. I'll try to get added.
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> We have an ApacheCon wiki, but managing permissions on it has been
> non-obvious to me so far. Nick sent me instructions a while back and I can't
> find them right now...
AFAIK you should be added to
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/AdminGroup to be able to manage
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ContributorsGroup - I don't have
karma to help unfortunately.
-Bertrand
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 09/24/2014 07:51 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Rich Bowen<rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>> >I've received numerous recommendations of other possible keynotes, and I
>> >need to put these somewhere to track them other than my inbox, and I hope to
>> >be doing that before the end of this week, so that we can have some
>> >transparency around the selection process.
> Would a wiki page to track it all be a reasonable solution?
We have an ApacheCon wiki, but managing permissions on it has been
non-obvious to me so far. Nick sent me instructions a while back and I
can't find them right now. Nick?
--Rich
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> I've received numerous recommendations of other possible keynotes, and I
> need to put these somewhere to track them other than my inbox, and I hope to
> be doing that before the end of this week, so that we can have some
> transparency around the selection process.
Would a wiki page to track it all be a reasonable solution?
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 24 September 2014 17:11, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
>
>> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
>> as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
>> it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more)
>> commentators.
>>
> Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of them
> as possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel session of
> people reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
>
> ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the
> message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things in
> the world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture than just
> old memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the message is that
> we are now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting from there to here.
>
> I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract
> from that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF is
> mired in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our messaging.
>
> Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But
> not as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
>
I agree on your POW....always good to see a topic from multiple angles, I
focussed to much on our long history.
>
> Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the founders
> and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the keynote might
> be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find these days, but
> most of them are reachable.
Not to forget how we could such videoclips for marketing "now - then".
rgds
jan i.
>
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>
RE: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ro...@microsoft.com>.
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:53 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Rich,
How can I unsubscribe from this DL? I've tried sending mail to dev-unsubscribe@apache.org with no luck.
thx
Mark
On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
>> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as
>> many as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt
>> etc...do it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.
> Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of them as possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel session of people reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
>
> ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things in the world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture than just old memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the message is that we are now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting from there to here.
>
> I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract from that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF is mired in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our messaging.
>
> Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But not as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
>
> Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the founders and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the keynote might be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find these days, but most of them are reachable.
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ -
> @apachecon
>
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Mark Brodsky <rk...@gmail.com>.
Rich,
How can I unsubscribe from this DL? I’ve tried sending mail to dev-unsubscribe@apache.org with no luck.
thx
Mark
On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
>> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
>> as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
>> it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.
> Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of them as possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel session of people reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
>
> ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things in the world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture than just old memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the message is that we are now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting from there to here.
>
> I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract from that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF is mired in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our messaging.
>
> Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But not as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
>
> Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the founders and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the keynote might be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find these days, but most of them are reachable.
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>> ...when a perceived
>> "outsider" (or new-to-Apache) person sez "This is what
>> Apache needs to do to survive", it's always taken
>> with a little salt.....
>
> Agreed, OTOH I like keynotes from outsiders in general, as they tend
> to broaden our view.
Oh, I agree. Too much naval gazing is never good and
within new insights we grow stagnant.
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> ...when a perceived
> "outsider" (or new-to-Apache) person sez "This is what
> Apache needs to do to survive", it's always taken
> with a little salt.....
Agreed, OTOH I like keynotes from outsiders in general, as they tend
to broaden our view.
-Bertrand
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
What I like about Brian doing such a talk is that he
was there at the start; he understands the ASF, the
culture that built it and the culture it has. So any
"this is what Apache needs to do" statement has some
real weight behind it; I compare it to, for example,
Mark Hinkle's keynote: nothing against Mark, of
course, and I value his insight, but when a perceived
"outsider" (or new-to-Apache) person sez "This is what
Apache needs to do to survive", it's always taken
with a little salt...
On Sep 24, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>> Agreed: How we got here is nice; where we are going (and
>> where we *should* be going) is better :)
>>
>
> Yes!
>
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> Agreed: How we got here is nice; where we are going (and
> where we *should* be going) is better :)
>
Yes!
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Agreed: How we got here is nice; where we are going (and
where we *should* be going) is better :)
On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
>> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
>> as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
>> it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.
> Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of them as possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel session of people reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
>
> ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things in the world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture than just old memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the message is that we are now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting from there to here.
>
> I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract from that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF is mired in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our messaging.
>
> Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But not as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
>
> Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the founders and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the keynote might be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find these days, but most of them are reachable.
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 09/24/2014 10:56 AM, jan i wrote:
> Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
> as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
> it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.
Brian has agreed to reach out to the original team and get as many of
them as possible to attend. However, I do *not* want to do a panel
session of people reminiscing. Allow me to share my thoughts on this.
ApacheCon is about the ASF, and we want to be constantly preaching the
message that ASF != httpd. Brian is a visionary, and does great things
in the world at large, and I want him to talk about a bigger picture
than just old memories. The old memories will be part of it, but the
message is that we are now 200 projects, and what we've learned getting
from there to here.
I'm concerned that having the "old guys reminiscing" talk will detract
from that larger message, as well as reinforce the message that the ASF
is mired in the past - something that we're actively fighting in our
messaging.
Now, it would be cool to have that as a session, in the httpd track. But
not as a keynote. I hope you see my thinking on this.
Although ... the idea of getting brief video clips of each of the
founders and making a *short* vignette to show at the beginning of the
keynote might be kind of awesome. Some of the are kind of hard to find
these days, but most of them are reachable.
--Rich
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheCon Austin keynotes
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 24 September 2014 15:00, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> I'm starting to look for keynotes for ApacheCon Austin. I have one locked
> in already, and wanted to let people here know about it.
>
> ApacheCon Austin happens to take place 20 years to the week from the very
> first public release of the Apache Web Server that started all of this.
> Brian Behlendorf will be giving a keynote in Austin talking about the
> lessons of 20 years, and about the progress we've made since then.
>
Another little thought. How about trying to get the original team (as many
as possible) to talk about that release, how is was, how it felt etc...do
it on video, and edit it all into a keynote with one (or more) commentators.
The history from then to now it also exciting....but I would to do a time
travel, and experience the early start of ASF, the ideals, the concerns.
rgds
jan I.
>
> I've received numerous recommendations of other possible keynotes, and I
> need to put these somewhere to track them other than my inbox, and I hope
> to be doing that before the end of this week, so that we can have some
> transparency around the selection process.
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>