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[PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Hi all,

I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr module
[1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme [2] by
Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July 19th,
2013.

For this I *urgently need a mentor* from the Lucene community, so would
someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if
you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a
little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed
goals too much.

The proposal is at :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/

I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have some
suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will give
you comment access if you want as well.

Thanks and regards,
Ajay

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562

[2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html

[3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende

Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com>.
Hello,

Thanks so much for accepting the project proposal. I've started the coding
work. I'll keep you all posted of my work.


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a question regarding one of the interfaces in the orig version.
>
> The IOReporter.java [1] is used by the Hadoop Plugin [2] and it only has 2
> functions which are implemented by Hadoop  Plugin. Is this interface really
> needed? Can't I just use the functions as is in Hadoop class without
> needing to get the IOReporter?
>
> [1]
> http://luke.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/org/getopt/luke/plugins/IOReporter.java
>
> [2]
> http://luke.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/org/getopt/luke/plugins/HadoopPlugin.java
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM, SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ajay,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply and the links to the email threads. I saw a response
>> on this thread from Shawn Helsey about this as well. I didn't realize your
>> focus was Luke, then Lucene, then Solr - the proposal title and the JIRA
>> both mention Lucene/Solr module, which probably misled me - I guess I
>> should have read the doc more carefully... Thank you for the clarification
>> and good luck with your project.
>>
>> -sujit
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Sujit,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your comments. There was actually some discussion earlier
>> about whether or not Solr was the highest priority.
>> >
>> >
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3C0F7176D08A99494EBF1E129298E12904%40JackKrupansky%3E
>> >
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCAOdYfZVQ1WzWhYVeKgwpA%3DmQVONxo4XiLza28geV2L1PCpcQJg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>> >
>> > Right now I don't think I could do the integration with Solr since (a)
>> I don't know enough Javascript to work with Solr and (b) The time for
>> submitting proposals for the program is over.
>> >
>> > The project duration is scheduled till end of October. After that or if
>> I get time during project period I'll try and work with other
>> functionalities of Luke and then try for Solr. I think its best to make
>> Luke completely functioning before integrating with the trunk, and this is
>> better in incremental steps.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:59 PM, SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Ajay,
>> >
>> > Since you asked for feedback from the community... a lot of what Luke
>> used to do is now already available in Solr's admin tool. From Luke's
>> feature set that you had in your proposal Google doc. the only ones I think
>> are /not/ preset are the following:
>> >
>> > * Browse by document number
>> > * selectively delete documents from the index - there is no delete
>> document page AFAIK, but you can still do this from the URL.
>> > * reconstruct the original document fields, edit them and re-insert to
>> the index - you can do this using code as long as the fields are stored,
>> but there is no reconstruct page.
>> > * optimize indexes - can be done from the URL but probably no
>> page/button for this.
>> >
>> > As a Solr user, for me your tool would be most useful if it
>> concentrated on these areas, and if it could be integrated into the
>> existing admin tool (the Solr 4 one of course). I am not sure what the
>> Solr4 admin tool uses, if its Pivot then I guess thats what you should use
>> (and by extension, if not, you probably should use what the current tool
>> uses so its easy to maintain going forward). Benefit to users such as
>> myself would be unified look-and-feel so not much of a learning
>> curve/barrier to adoption.
>> >
>> > Just my $0.02...
>> >
>> > -sujit
>> >
>> > On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Mark,
>> > >
>> > > I've added the proposal to the ASF-ICFOSS proposals page [1].
>> According to the ICFOSS programme [2] the last date for submission of
>> project proposal is July 19th (today)
>> > > The time period for mentors to review and rank students project
>> proposals is July 22nd to August 2nd, i.e next week onwards.
>> > >
>> > > I'd like some feedback on my proposal from the community as well.
>> > > Link to proposal on Google Docs :
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc
>> > > Link to proposal on CWiki page :
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Proposal+for+Apache+Lucene+-+Ajay+Bhat
>> > >
>> > > [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme
>> > >
>> > > [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > Thanks Mark. I've given you comment access as well so you can comment
>> on specific parts of the proposal
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > You can put my down for the mentor.
>> > >
>> > > - Mark
>> > >
>> > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi all,
>> > >>
>> > >> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr
>> module [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme
>> [2] by Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July
>> 19th, 2013.
>> > >>
>> > >> For this I urgently need a mentor from the Lucene community, so
>> would someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand
>> if you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a
>> little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed
>> goals too much.
>> > >>
>> > >> The proposal is at :
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you
>> have some suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I
>> will give you comment access if you want as well.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks and regards,
>> > >> Ajay
>> > >>
>> > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
>> > >>
>> > >> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
>> > >>
>> > >> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Thanks and regards,
>> > > Ajay Bhat
>> >
>> >
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>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks and regards,
>> > Ajay Bhat
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> Thanks and regards,
> Ajay Bhat
>



-- 
Thanks and regards,
Ajay Bhat

Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I have a question regarding one of the interfaces in the orig version.

The IOReporter.java [1] is used by the Hadoop Plugin [2] and it only has 2
functions which are implemented by Hadoop  Plugin. Is this interface really
needed? Can't I just use the functions as is in Hadoop class without
needing to get the IOReporter?

[1]
http://luke.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/org/getopt/luke/plugins/IOReporter.java

[2]
http://luke.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/org/getopt/luke/plugins/HadoopPlugin.java


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:12 PM, SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Ajay,
>
> Thanks for the reply and the links to the email threads. I saw a response
> on this thread from Shawn Helsey about this as well. I didn't realize your
> focus was Luke, then Lucene, then Solr - the proposal title and the JIRA
> both mention Lucene/Solr module, which probably misled me - I guess I
> should have read the doc more carefully... Thank you for the clarification
> and good luck with your project.
>
> -sujit
>
> On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:
>
> > Hi Sujit,
> >
> > Thanks for your comments. There was actually some discussion earlier
> about whether or not Solr was the highest priority.
> >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3C0F7176D08A99494EBF1E129298E12904%40JackKrupansky%3E
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCAOdYfZVQ1WzWhYVeKgwpA%3DmQVONxo4XiLza28geV2L1PCpcQJg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> > Right now I don't think I could do the integration with Solr since (a) I
> don't know enough Javascript to work with Solr and (b) The time for
> submitting proposals for the program is over.
> >
> > The project duration is scheduled till end of October. After that or if
> I get time during project period I'll try and work with other
> functionalities of Luke and then try for Solr. I think its best to make
> Luke completely functioning before integrating with the trunk, and this is
> better in incremental steps.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:59 PM, SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi Ajay,
> >
> > Since you asked for feedback from the community... a lot of what Luke
> used to do is now already available in Solr's admin tool. From Luke's
> feature set that you had in your proposal Google doc. the only ones I think
> are /not/ preset are the following:
> >
> > * Browse by document number
> > * selectively delete documents from the index - there is no delete
> document page AFAIK, but you can still do this from the URL.
> > * reconstruct the original document fields, edit them and re-insert to
> the index - you can do this using code as long as the fields are stored,
> but there is no reconstruct page.
> > * optimize indexes - can be done from the URL but probably no
> page/button for this.
> >
> > As a Solr user, for me your tool would be most useful if it concentrated
> on these areas, and if it could be integrated into the existing admin tool
> (the Solr 4 one of course). I am not sure what the Solr4 admin tool uses,
> if its Pivot then I guess thats what you should use (and by extension, if
> not, you probably should use what the current tool uses so its easy to
> maintain going forward). Benefit to users such as myself would be unified
> look-and-feel so not much of a learning curve/barrier to adoption.
> >
> > Just my $0.02...
> >
> > -sujit
> >
> > On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > > I've added the proposal to the ASF-ICFOSS proposals page [1].
> According to the ICFOSS programme [2] the last date for submission of
> project proposal is July 19th (today)
> > > The time period for mentors to review and rank students project
> proposals is July 22nd to August 2nd, i.e next week onwards.
> > >
> > > I'd like some feedback on my proposal from the community as well.
> > > Link to proposal on Google Docs :
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc
> > > Link to proposal on CWiki page :
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Proposal+for+Apache+Lucene+-+Ajay+Bhat
> > >
> > > [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme
> > >
> > > [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Thanks Mark. I've given you comment access as well so you can comment
> on specific parts of the proposal
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > You can put my down for the mentor.
> > >
> > > - Mark
> > >
> > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr
> module [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme
> [2] by Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July
> 19th, 2013.
> > >>
> > >> For this I urgently need a mentor from the Lucene community, so would
> someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if
> you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a
> little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed
> goals too much.
> > >>
> > >> The proposal is at :
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
> > >>
> > >> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have
> some suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will
> give you comment access if you want as well.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks and regards,
> > >> Ajay
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
> > >>
> > >> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> > >>
> > >> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > > Ajay Bhat
> >
> >
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Ajay Bhat
>
>
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>


-- 
Thanks and regards,
Ajay Bhat

Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net>.
Hi Ajay,

Thanks for the reply and the links to the email threads. I saw a response on this thread from Shawn Helsey about this as well. I didn't realize your focus was Luke, then Lucene, then Solr - the proposal title and the JIRA both mention Lucene/Solr module, which probably misled me - I guess I should have read the doc more carefully... Thank you for the clarification and good luck with your project.

-sujit

On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:

> Hi Sujit,
> 
> Thanks for your comments. There was actually some discussion earlier about whether or not Solr was the highest priority.
> 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3C0F7176D08A99494EBF1E129298E12904%40JackKrupansky%3E
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCAOdYfZVQ1WzWhYVeKgwpA%3DmQVONxo4XiLza28geV2L1PCpcQJg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> 
> Right now I don't think I could do the integration with Solr since (a) I don't know enough Javascript to work with Solr and (b) The time for submitting proposals for the program is over.
> 
> The project duration is scheduled till end of October. After that or if I get time during project period I'll try and work with other functionalities of Luke and then try for Solr. I think its best to make Luke completely functioning before integrating with the trunk, and this is better in incremental steps.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:59 PM, SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Ajay,
> 
> Since you asked for feedback from the community... a lot of what Luke used to do is now already available in Solr's admin tool. From Luke's feature set that you had in your proposal Google doc. the only ones I think are /not/ preset are the following:
> 
> * Browse by document number
> * selectively delete documents from the index - there is no delete document page AFAIK, but you can still do this from the URL.
> * reconstruct the original document fields, edit them and re-insert to the index - you can do this using code as long as the fields are stored, but there is no reconstruct page.
> * optimize indexes - can be done from the URL but probably no page/button for this.
> 
> As a Solr user, for me your tool would be most useful if it concentrated on these areas, and if it could be integrated into the existing admin tool (the Solr 4 one of course). I am not sure what the Solr4 admin tool uses, if its Pivot then I guess thats what you should use (and by extension, if not, you probably should use what the current tool uses so its easy to maintain going forward). Benefit to users such as myself would be unified look-and-feel so not much of a learning curve/barrier to adoption.
> 
> Just my $0.02...
> 
> -sujit
> 
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I've added the proposal to the ASF-ICFOSS proposals page [1]. According to the ICFOSS programme [2] the last date for submission of project proposal is July 19th (today)
> > The time period for mentors to review and rank students project proposals is July 22nd to August 2nd, i.e next week onwards.
> >
> > I'd like some feedback on my proposal from the community as well.
> > Link to proposal on Google Docs : https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc
> > Link to proposal on CWiki page : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Proposal+for+Apache+Lucene+-+Ajay+Bhat
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme
> >
> > [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Mark. I've given you comment access as well so you can comment on specific parts of the proposal
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You can put my down for the mentor.
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr module [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme [2] by Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July 19th, 2013.
> >>
> >> For this I urgently need a mentor from the Lucene community, so would someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed goals too much.
> >>
> >> The proposal is at : https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
> >>
> >> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have some suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will give you comment access if you want as well.
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >> Ajay
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
> >>
> >> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> >>
> >> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Ajay Bhat
> 
> 
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> 
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> Thanks and regards,
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by Jack Krupansky <ja...@basetechnology.com>.
Even on my original list, Solr was a third priority. Having a clean JAVA API, integrated with Lucene, and a clean, simple command-line interface are reasonable first steps (in my view). If we have a clean API, then it can be integrated easily into Solr by others.

-- Jack Krupansky

From: Ajay Bhat 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:09 PM
To: dev@lucene.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Hi Sujit, 

Thanks for your comments. There was actually some discussion earlier about whether or not Solr was the highest priority.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3C0F7176D08A99494EBF1E129298E12904%40JackKrupansky%3E

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCAOdYfZVQ1WzWhYVeKgwpA%3DmQVONxo4XiLza28geV2L1PCpcQJg%40mail.gmail.com%3E


Right now I don't think I could do the integration with Solr since (a) I don't know enough Javascript to work with Solr and (b) The time for submitting proposals for the program is over.

The project duration is scheduled till end of October. After that or if I get time during project period I'll try and work with other functionalities of Luke and then try for Solr. I think its best to make Luke completely functioning before integrating with the trunk, and this is better in incremental steps.



On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:59 PM, SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net> wrote:

  Hi Ajay,

  Since you asked for feedback from the community... a lot of what Luke used to do is now already available in Solr's admin tool. From Luke's feature set that you had in your proposal Google doc. the only ones I think are /not/ preset are the following:

  * Browse by document number
  * selectively delete documents from the index - there is no delete document page AFAIK, but you can still do this from the URL.
  * reconstruct the original document fields, edit them and re-insert to the index - you can do this using code as long as the fields are stored, but there is no reconstruct page.
  * optimize indexes - can be done from the URL but probably no page/button for this.

  As a Solr user, for me your tool would be most useful if it concentrated on these areas, and if it could be integrated into the existing admin tool (the Solr 4 one of course). I am not sure what the Solr4 admin tool uses, if its Pivot then I guess thats what you should use (and by extension, if not, you probably should use what the current tool uses so its easy to maintain going forward). Benefit to users such as myself would be unified look-and-feel so not much of a learning curve/barrier to adoption.

  Just my $0.02...

  -sujit


  On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:

  > Hi Mark,
  >
  > I've added the proposal to the ASF-ICFOSS proposals page [1]. According to the ICFOSS programme [2] the last date for submission of project proposal is July 19th (today)
  > The time period for mentors to review and rank students project proposals is July 22nd to August 2nd, i.e next week onwards.
  >
  > I'd like some feedback on my proposal from the community as well.
  > Link to proposal on Google Docs : https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc
  > Link to proposal on CWiki page : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Proposal+for+Apache+Lucene+-+Ajay+Bhat
  >
  > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme
  >
  > [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
  >
  >
  > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
  > Thanks Mark. I've given you comment access as well so you can comment on specific parts of the proposal
  >
  >
  > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > You can put my down for the mentor.
  >
  > - Mark
  >
  > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
  >
  >> Hi all,
  >>
  >> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr module [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme [2] by Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July 19th, 2013.
  >>
  >> For this I urgently need a mentor from the Lucene community, so would someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed goals too much.
  >>
  >> The proposal is at : https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
  >>
  >> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have some suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will give you comment access if you want as well.
  >>
  >> Thanks and regards,
  >> Ajay
  >>
  >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
  >>
  >> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
  >>
  >> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > --
  > Thanks and regards,
  > Ajay Bhat



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com>.
Hi Sujit,

Thanks for your comments. There was actually some discussion earlier about
whether or not Solr was the highest priority.

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3C0F7176D08A99494EBF1E129298E12904%40JackKrupansky%3E
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCAOdYfZVQ1WzWhYVeKgwpA%3DmQVONxo4XiLza28geV2L1PCpcQJg%40mail.gmail.com%3E

Right now I don't think I could do the integration with Solr since (a) I
don't know enough Javascript to work with Solr and (b) The time for
submitting proposals for the program is over.

The project duration is scheduled till end of October. After that or if I
get time during project period I'll try and work with other functionalities
of Luke and then try for Solr. I think its best to make Luke completely
functioning before integrating with the trunk, and this is better in
incremental steps.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:59 PM, SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Ajay,
>
> Since you asked for feedback from the community... a lot of what Luke used
> to do is now already available in Solr's admin tool. From Luke's feature
> set that you had in your proposal Google doc. the only ones I think are
> /not/ preset are the following:
>
> * Browse by document number
> * selectively delete documents from the index - there is no delete
> document page AFAIK, but you can still do this from the URL.
> * reconstruct the original document fields, edit them and re-insert to the
> index - you can do this using code as long as the fields are stored, but
> there is no reconstruct page.
> * optimize indexes - can be done from the URL but probably no page/button
> for this.
>
> As a Solr user, for me your tool would be most useful if it concentrated
> on these areas, and if it could be integrated into the existing admin tool
> (the Solr 4 one of course). I am not sure what the Solr4 admin tool uses,
> if its Pivot then I guess thats what you should use (and by extension, if
> not, you probably should use what the current tool uses so its easy to
> maintain going forward). Benefit to users such as myself would be unified
> look-and-feel so not much of a learning curve/barrier to adoption.
>
> Just my $0.02...
>
> -sujit
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I've added the proposal to the ASF-ICFOSS proposals page [1]. According
> to the ICFOSS programme [2] the last date for submission of project
> proposal is July 19th (today)
> > The time period for mentors to review and rank students project
> proposals is July 22nd to August 2nd, i.e next week onwards.
> >
> > I'd like some feedback on my proposal from the community as well.
> > Link to proposal on Google Docs :
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc
> > Link to proposal on CWiki page :
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Proposal+for+Apache+Lucene+-+Ajay+Bhat
> >
> > [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme
> >
> > [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Mark. I've given you comment access as well so you can comment on
> specific parts of the proposal
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > You can put my down for the mentor.
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr
> module [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme
> [2] by Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July
> 19th, 2013.
> >>
> >> For this I urgently need a mentor from the Lucene community, so would
> someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if
> you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a
> little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed
> goals too much.
> >>
> >> The proposal is at :
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
> >>
> >> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have
> some suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will
> give you comment access if you want as well.
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >> Ajay
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
> >>
> >> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> >>
> >> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Ajay Bhat
>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by Shawn Heisey <so...@elyograg.org>.
On 7/19/2013 10:29 AM, SUJIT PAL wrote:
>I am not sure what the Solr4 admin tool uses

Solr's UI since 4.0 is javascript and requires a browser to run.  In 
earlier versions it was JSP, built server-side but still displayed in a 
browser.  This is reasonable because Solr is a service application that 
is typically accessed over the network.  Its user interface is 
browser-based.  Solr doesn't present a user interface in the same way as 
a "standard" program like a spreadsheet or a word processor.

The kind of UI choices (like Pivot) that are being talked about for Luke 
are Java APIs that build OS GUI dialog boxes for "standard" programs. 
If you try to compare that with the Solr UI, you're comparing apples and 
oranges.

Luke is a standalone application that works on Lucene indexes, 
independent of the application (Solr or user-created) that built them. 
My opinion, and I'll let you decide whether it's humble or otherwise:

First, we need to get Luke fully integrated into the Lucene codebase as 
a module.  That module must build the standalone application that we 
know and love.

Next, if Luke is not already modular enough so that it can work as a 
library, the modularization process will have to be completed.  If this 
is required, it likely to be a very hairy change.

I think that trying to replace the Luke functionality in Solr with calls 
to a Luke library would be premature before the steps above are completed.

Thanks,
Shawn


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by SUJIT PAL <su...@comcast.net>.
Hi Ajay,

Since you asked for feedback from the community... a lot of what Luke used to do is now already available in Solr's admin tool. From Luke's feature set that you had in your proposal Google doc. the only ones I think are /not/ preset are the following:

* Browse by document number
* selectively delete documents from the index - there is no delete document page AFAIK, but you can still do this from the URL.
* reconstruct the original document fields, edit them and re-insert to the index - you can do this using code as long as the fields are stored, but there is no reconstruct page.
* optimize indexes - can be done from the URL but probably no page/button for this.

As a Solr user, for me your tool would be most useful if it concentrated on these areas, and if it could be integrated into the existing admin tool (the Solr 4 one of course). I am not sure what the Solr4 admin tool uses, if its Pivot then I guess thats what you should use (and by extension, if not, you probably should use what the current tool uses so its easy to maintain going forward). Benefit to users such as myself would be unified look-and-feel so not much of a learning curve/barrier to adoption.

Just my $0.02... 

-sujit

On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Ajay Bhat wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> I've added the proposal to the ASF-ICFOSS proposals page [1]. According to the ICFOSS programme [2] the last date for submission of project proposal is July 19th (today)
> The time period for mentors to review and rank students project proposals is July 22nd to August 2nd, i.e next week onwards.
> 
> I'd like some feedback on my proposal from the community as well.
> Link to proposal on Google Docs : https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc
> Link to proposal on CWiki page : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Proposal+for+Apache+Lucene+-+Ajay+Bhat
> 
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme
> 
> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Mark. I've given you comment access as well so you can comment on specific parts of the proposal
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can put my down for the mentor.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr module [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme [2] by Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July 19th, 2013.
>> 
>> For this I urgently need a mentor from the Lucene community, so would someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed goals too much.
>> 
>> The proposal is at : https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
>> 
>> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have some suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will give you comment access if you want as well.
>> 
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Ajay
>> 
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
>> 
>> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
>> 
>> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks and regards,
> Ajay Bhat


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com>.
Hi Mark,

I've added the proposal to the ASF-ICFOSS proposals page [1]. According to
the ICFOSS programme [2] the last date for submission of project proposal
is July 19th (today)
The time period for mentors to review and rank students project proposals
is July 22nd to August 2nd, i.e next week onwards.

I'd like some feedback on my proposal from the community as well.
Link to proposal on Google Docs :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc
Link to proposal on CWiki page :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Proposal+for+Apache+Lucene+-+Ajay+Bhat

[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme

[2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Mark. I've given you comment access as well so you can comment on
> specific parts of the proposal
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> You can put my down for the mentor.
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr module
>> [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme [2] by
>> Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July 19th,
>> 2013.
>>
>> For this I *urgently need a mentor* from the Lucene community, so would
>> someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if
>> you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a
>> little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed
>> goals too much.
>>
>> The proposal is at :
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
>>
>> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have
>> some suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will
>> give you comment access if you want as well.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
>>
>> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
>>
>> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com>.
Thanks Mark. I've given you comment access as well so you can comment on
specific parts of the proposal


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You can put my down for the mentor.
>
> - Mark
>
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr module
> [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme [2] by
> Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July 19th,
> 2013.
>
> For this I *urgently need a mentor* from the Lucene community, so would
> someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if
> you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a
> little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed
> goals too much.
>
> The proposal is at :
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
>
> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have some
> suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will give
> you comment access if you want as well.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Ajay
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
>
> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
>
> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>
>
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Make Luke a Lucene/Solr Module

Posted by Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>.
You can put my down for the mentor.

- Mark

On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Ajay Bhat <a....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I want to do the Jira issue LUCENE 2562 : Make Luke a Lucene/Solr module [1] as a project. This project will be for the ASF-ICFOSS programme [2] by Luciano Resende [3] and the proposal has to be submitted before July 19th, 2013.
> 
> For this I urgently need a mentor from the Lucene community, so would someone please consent to be my mentor for this project? I understand if you are busy with other development commitments, but I'd be happy with a little general guidance, and some reminding if I'm going away the proposed goals too much.
> 
> The proposal is at : https://docs.google.com/document/d/18Vu5YB6C7WLDxnG01BnZXFEKUC3EQYb0Y5_tCJFb_sc/
> 
> I'm focusing mainly on the porting of plugins of the app. If you have some suggestions for the proposal I will be glad to hear them, and I will give you comment access if you want as well.
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> Ajay
> 
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2562
> 
> [2] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> 
> [3] http://people.apache.org/~lresende