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Amq queues exists after delete of sa containing a jms provider su
Hi,
I'm depoying(hotdeploy) a SA into smx, the SA has an jms su that holds
diffrent jms endpoints:
Here is a snapshot of my xbean.xml conf:
<jms:endpoint service="dyna:CarLookupService"
endpoint="endpoint"
role="provider"
destinationStyle="queue"
jmsProviderDestinationName="queue/CLQ"
defaultMep="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/wsdl/in-out"
connectionFactory="#connectionFactory" />
<amq:connectionFactory id="connectionFactory"
brokerURL="tcp://localhost:61616" />
Everything works fine and the jms-endpoint queues are up and running and
receving messages.
I am using jconsole to surveillance and confirm this. However when I
undeploy my SA that is containing the jms su the queues are still there even
after i restart smx. How can I remove the queues that I no longer have any
need for from the amq broker? Am I doing anything out of the league here so
to speak?
BR
Mathias
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Re: Amq queues exists after delete of sa containing a jms provider
su
Posted by mast <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi JB,
I didn't call stop on the SA I just removed it manually.
So I guess you'r right, this is another issue if even an issue.
I will start using jconsole to monitor(start/stop etc) my artifacts in the
future.
Thx for the tip.
BR
Mathias
Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>
> Hi Mathias,
>
> when you said "undeploy my SA", do you mean:
> - remove SA zip from the hotdeploy directory
> - call stop on the SA using the jconsole
> - call shutdown on the SA using the jconsole
> ?
>
> I have made a fix last week to call stop before shutdown but I think
> it's not related to your issue.
>
> Feel free to open a JIRA task on this topic, I will investigate deeper.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> mast wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm depoying(hotdeploy) a SA into smx, the SA has an jms su that holds
>> diffrent jms endpoints:
>> Here is a snapshot of my xbean.xml conf:
>> <jms:endpoint service="dyna:CarLookupService"
>> endpoint="endpoint"
>> role="provider"
>> destinationStyle="queue"
>> jmsProviderDestinationName="queue/CLQ"
>> defaultMep="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/wsdl/in-out"
>> connectionFactory="#connectionFactory" />
>>
>> <amq:connectionFactory id="connectionFactory"
>> brokerURL="tcp://localhost:61616" />
>>
>> Everything works fine and the jms-endpoint queues are up and running and
>> receving messages.
>> I am using jconsole to surveillance and confirm this. However when I
>> undeploy my SA that is containing the jms su the queues are still there
>> even
>> after i restart smx. How can I remove the queues that I no longer have
>> any
>> need for from the amq broker? Am I doing anything out of the league here
>> so
>> to speak?
>>
>> BR
>> Mathias
>
>
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Re: Amq queues exists after delete of sa containing a jms provider
su
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks you (I have seen the JIRA task). I will take a look on it.
Regards
JB
mast wrote:
> Here is a tracker for this issue:
> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/SMX4-289
>
> BR
> Mathias
>
>
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi Mathias,
>>
>> when you said "undeploy my SA", do you mean:
>> - remove SA zip from the hotdeploy directory
>> - call stop on the SA using the jconsole
>> - call shutdown on the SA using the jconsole
>> ?
>>
>> I have made a fix last week to call stop before shutdown but I think
>> it's not related to your issue.
>>
>> Feel free to open a JIRA task on this topic, I will investigate deeper.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> mast wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm depoying(hotdeploy) a SA into smx, the SA has an jms su that holds
>>> diffrent jms endpoints:
>>> Here is a snapshot of my xbean.xml conf:
>>> <jms:endpoint service="dyna:CarLookupService"
>>> endpoint="endpoint"
>>> role="provider"
>>> destinationStyle="queue"
>>> jmsProviderDestinationName="queue/CLQ"
>>> defaultMep="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/wsdl/in-out"
>>> connectionFactory="#connectionFactory" />
>>>
>>> <amq:connectionFactory id="connectionFactory"
>>> brokerURL="tcp://localhost:61616" />
>>>
>>> Everything works fine and the jms-endpoint queues are up and running and
>>> receving messages.
>>> I am using jconsole to surveillance and confirm this. However when I
>>> undeploy my SA that is containing the jms su the queues are still there
>>> even
>>> after i restart smx. How can I remove the queues that I no longer have
>>> any
>>> need for from the amq broker? Am I doing anything out of the league here
>>> so
>>> to speak?
>>>
>>> BR
>>> Mathias
>>
>
Re: Amq queues exists after delete of sa containing a jms provider
su
Posted by mast <ma...@gmail.com>.
Here is a tracker for this issue:
https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/SMX4-289
BR
Mathias
Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>
> Hi Mathias,
>
> when you said "undeploy my SA", do you mean:
> - remove SA zip from the hotdeploy directory
> - call stop on the SA using the jconsole
> - call shutdown on the SA using the jconsole
> ?
>
> I have made a fix last week to call stop before shutdown but I think
> it's not related to your issue.
>
> Feel free to open a JIRA task on this topic, I will investigate deeper.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> mast wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm depoying(hotdeploy) a SA into smx, the SA has an jms su that holds
>> diffrent jms endpoints:
>> Here is a snapshot of my xbean.xml conf:
>> <jms:endpoint service="dyna:CarLookupService"
>> endpoint="endpoint"
>> role="provider"
>> destinationStyle="queue"
>> jmsProviderDestinationName="queue/CLQ"
>> defaultMep="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/wsdl/in-out"
>> connectionFactory="#connectionFactory" />
>>
>> <amq:connectionFactory id="connectionFactory"
>> brokerURL="tcp://localhost:61616" />
>>
>> Everything works fine and the jms-endpoint queues are up and running and
>> receving messages.
>> I am using jconsole to surveillance and confirm this. However when I
>> undeploy my SA that is containing the jms su the queues are still there
>> even
>> after i restart smx. How can I remove the queues that I no longer have
>> any
>> need for from the amq broker? Am I doing anything out of the league here
>> so
>> to speak?
>>
>> BR
>> Mathias
>
>
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Re: Amq queues exists after delete of sa containing a jms provider
su
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Mathias,
when you said "undeploy my SA", do you mean:
- remove SA zip from the hotdeploy directory
- call stop on the SA using the jconsole
- call shutdown on the SA using the jconsole
?
I have made a fix last week to call stop before shutdown but I think
it's not related to your issue.
Feel free to open a JIRA task on this topic, I will investigate deeper.
Regards
JB
mast wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm depoying(hotdeploy) a SA into smx, the SA has an jms su that holds
> diffrent jms endpoints:
> Here is a snapshot of my xbean.xml conf:
> <jms:endpoint service="dyna:CarLookupService"
> endpoint="endpoint"
> role="provider"
> destinationStyle="queue"
> jmsProviderDestinationName="queue/CLQ"
> defaultMep="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/wsdl/in-out"
> connectionFactory="#connectionFactory" />
>
> <amq:connectionFactory id="connectionFactory"
> brokerURL="tcp://localhost:61616" />
>
> Everything works fine and the jms-endpoint queues are up and running and
> receving messages.
> I am using jconsole to surveillance and confirm this. However when I
> undeploy my SA that is containing the jms su the queues are still there even
> after i restart smx. How can I remove the queues that I no longer have any
> need for from the amq broker? Am I doing anything out of the league here so
> to speak?
>
> BR
> Mathias
Re: Amq queues exists after delete of sa containing a jms provider
su
Posted by mast <ma...@gmail.com>.
O.K I found it in the jmx console -> remove queue method.
Is this a desirable setup or a normal behaviour for removing queues? I can
see the benefit of it in a safety perspective.
BR
Mathias
mast wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm depoying(hotdeploy) a SA into smx, the SA has an jms su that holds
> diffrent jms endpoints:
> Here is a snapshot of my xbean.xml conf:
> <jms:endpoint service="dyna:CarLookupService"
> endpoint="endpoint"
> role="provider"
> destinationStyle="queue"
> jmsProviderDestinationName="queue/CLQ"
> defaultMep="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/wsdl/in-out"
> connectionFactory="#connectionFactory" />
>
> <amq:connectionFactory id="connectionFactory"
> brokerURL="tcp://localhost:61616" />
>
> Everything works fine and the jms-endpoint queues are up and running and
> receving messages.
> I am using jconsole to surveillance and confirm this. However when I
> undeploy my SA that is containing the jms su the queues are still there
> even after i restart smx. How can I remove the queues that I no longer
> have any need for from the amq broker? Am I doing anything out of the
> league here so to speak?
>
> BR
> Mathias
>
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Re: Amq queues exists after delete of sa containing a jms provider
su
Posted by mast <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hello Gert,
I'm fine with using jconsole, I didn't know what the default "approach" was.
I was just confused when I saw my "old" queues hanging around even doe I had
undeployed(in this case just manually removed it) my artifact.
I could absolutely have a look at it, I just need some more "meat on my
bones" regarding how everything is related to eachother.
BR
Mathias
Gert Vanthienen wrote:
>
> Mathias,
>
> This actually is an ActiveMQ feature at work. Many message broker
> require you to set up queues before you can use them, but ActiveMQ
> creates a queue/topic on the fly as you send your first message to it.
> Whenever we create a temporary queue (e.g. for handing an InOut MEP),
> we do delete that afterwards, but not for 'real' JMS queues -- once
> defined in the broker, they remain there until someone removes them.
>
> Currently, there's no option available to e.g. delete all empty queues
> on startup or something (we don't want to delete queues that have
> messages in there, I guess) and that's mostly because there's hardly
> any overhead in having an empty queue in the broker. So this
> basically is a feature rather than a bug (I bet you've heard that one
> before ;) ), but if you would like to see this extra option being
> added, I'll gladly move the SMX4 issue and make it an ActiveMQ issue
> for you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gert Vanthienen
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> 2009/5/28 mast <ma...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm depoying(hotdeploy) a SA into smx, the SA has an jms su that holds
>> diffrent jms endpoints:
>> Here is a snapshot of my xbean.xml conf:
>> <jms:endpoint service="dyna:CarLookupService"
>> endpoint="endpoint"
>> role="provider"
>> destinationStyle="queue"
>> jmsProviderDestinationName="queue/CLQ"
>> defaultMep="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/wsdl/in-out"
>> connectionFactory="#connectionFactory" />
>>
>> <amq:connectionFactory id="connectionFactory"
>> brokerURL="tcp://localhost:61616" />
>>
>> Everything works fine and the jms-endpoint queues are up and running and
>> receving messages.
>> I am using jconsole to surveillance and confirm this. However when I
>> undeploy my SA that is containing the jms su the queues are still there
>> even
>> after i restart smx. How can I remove the queues that I no longer have
>> any
>> need for from the amq broker? Am I doing anything out of the league here
>> so
>> to speak?
>>
>> BR
>> Mathias
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>>
>
>
> -----
> ---
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> http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com
>
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Re: Amq queues exists after delete of sa containing a jms provider su
Posted by Gert Vanthienen <ge...@gmail.com>.
Mathias,
This actually is an ActiveMQ feature at work. Many message broker
require you to set up queues before you can use them, but ActiveMQ
creates a queue/topic on the fly as you send your first message to it.
Whenever we create a temporary queue (e.g. for handing an InOut MEP),
we do delete that afterwards, but not for 'real' JMS queues -- once
defined in the broker, they remain there until someone removes them.
Currently, there's no option available to e.g. delete all empty queues
on startup or something (we don't want to delete queues that have
messages in there, I guess) and that's mostly because there's hardly
any overhead in having an empty queue in the broker. So this
basically is a feature rather than a bug (I bet you've heard that one
before ;) ), but if you would like to see this extra option being
added, I'll gladly move the SMX4 issue and make it an ActiveMQ issue
for you.
Regards,
Gert Vanthienen
------------------------
Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
2009/5/28 mast <ma...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm depoying(hotdeploy) a SA into smx, the SA has an jms su that holds
> diffrent jms endpoints:
> Here is a snapshot of my xbean.xml conf:
> <jms:endpoint service="dyna:CarLookupService"
> endpoint="endpoint"
> role="provider"
> destinationStyle="queue"
> jmsProviderDestinationName="queue/CLQ"
> defaultMep="http://www.w3.org/2004/08/wsdl/in-out"
> connectionFactory="#connectionFactory" />
>
> <amq:connectionFactory id="connectionFactory"
> brokerURL="tcp://localhost:61616" />
>
> Everything works fine and the jms-endpoint queues are up and running and
> receving messages.
> I am using jconsole to surveillance and confirm this. However when I
> undeploy my SA that is containing the jms su the queues are still there even
> after i restart smx. How can I remove the queues that I no longer have any
> need for from the amq broker? Am I doing anything out of the league here so
> to speak?
>
> BR
> Mathias
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