RE: UI Icons visibility when Started vs Stopped

[Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>]

Thanks everyone,

Looks like there is a consensus that (as a general rule) we should try to 'grey out/disable' icons for features that the user can't access due to say whether a VM is started or stopped.  Icons for actions that can be used due to something like hypervisor type should probably just be hidden.

@devs - it would be great if everyone could try to follow this.  I hope that the ShapeBlue guys will be able to find time to migrate some icons to this style.  I'll try to get round to updating the sprite image in preparation to make it easier for folks.



From: Anurag Awasthi <An...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: 20 February 2019 09:08
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: Paul Angus <pa...@shapeblue.com>
Subject: Re: UI Icons visibility when Started vs Stopped

Hi all,

Since I have been only a few months into using CloudStack, from user's perspective, reading the correct doc and finding the right information is not always possible. There is definitely a need for a cleaner way to communicate available options about UI buttons.

However, I think there is no one solution fits all approach. In general greying out disabled buttons approach is more user friendly than completely hidden ui controls and misinformation. But it's not necessarily the best from positive experience note and can be discussed to vary on a case to case basis.
Regards,
Anurag Awasthi



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From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: UI Icons visibility when Started vs Stopped

+1 to the specific question and also in general, all features (buttons/options) not available to users may be hidden or greyed out.


- Rohit

<https://cloudstack.apache.org>



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Subject: RE: UI Icons visibility when Started vs Stopped


+1 for greyed out.




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Subject: Re: UI Icons visibility when Started vs Stopped



Paul:

As an end-user, I prefer to see the options greyed out.  The greyed out options serve as a teaching tool to expose all the potential benefits and features of a category.  In addition, it may be additionally helpful to link to a knowledge base with information regarding the greyed out function, it's benefits, and how to activate it.

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On 2019-02-18 10:49 AM, Paul Angus wrote:

Hi All Users,

I'd like to get some feedback on an issue that has been bouncing around between developers for a while now.

The context is the end users' UI experience.  When a function is unavailable because of something the end user can control ie VM is started or Stopped.   Should unavailable actions be hidden, or visible but greyed out ?

My preference is for the latter, but I'd like to hear the users' and operators views.




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