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Posted to users@activemq.apache.org by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> on 2013/10/25 15:56:02 UTC

New Web Console...

If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do that?

Thanks,

James

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by Christian Posta <ch...@gmail.com>.
Yah....

http://www.sirona.com/en/





On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Paul Gale <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What on earth is sirona/hawtio????
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi guys, something to think about is sirona/hawtio I think. Any ideas?
> > Goals are not exactly the same but there are some overlaps so I'd expect
> > sirona amq, camel etc plugins.
> > Le 29 oct. 2013 21:19, "Hiram Chirino" <hi...@hiramchirino.com> a écrit
> :
> >
> >> You could also post process that hawtio bits.  It gets packaged in the
> >> assembly module.  Right now the
> >> assembly/src/main/descriptors/common-bin.xml file handles unpacking
> >> the hawtio bits into the activemq distro.  You could overwrite any
> >> bits that are needed there.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, James Carman
> >> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >> > But, it's the ActiveMQ Web Console now, installed by default with the
> >> > newest ActiveMQ.  Shouldn't the ActiveMQ PMC have some oversight into
> >> > their web console?
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM, James Strachan
> >> > <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Its not an Apache project
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 25 October 2013 15:35, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> There is no PMC oversight to the changes?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <
> claus.ibsen@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > The github way of doing things
> >> >>> > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
> >> >>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do
> >> that?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Thanks,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> James
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > --
> >> >>> > Claus Ibsen
> >> >>> > -----------------
> >> >>> > Red Hat, Inc.
> >> >>> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> >> >>> > Twitter: davsclaus
> >> >>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> >>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> James
> >> >> -------
> >> >> Red Hat
> >> >>
> >> >> Email: jstracha@redhat.com
> >> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> >> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews
> >> >> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> Open Source Integration
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hiram Chirino
> >>
> >> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
> >>
> >> hchirino@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com
> >>
> >> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
> >>
> >> blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo
> >>
>



-- 
*Christian Posta*
http://www.christianposta.com/blog
twitter: @christianposta

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com>.
Sirona is in the incubator and from a quick peek seems to be a library for
adding monitoring/counters/metrics and then storing them:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal

but its also got a web app too.

I'm sure we could add a plugin for Sirona to hawtio; I've raised an issue
to track it:
https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio/issues/701

As an aside, we've a plugin for querying ElasticSearch if the metrics are
stored there; and we've a plugin in Fuse for dumping metrics from MBeans
into ElasticSearch for historical charting and the like (in this module:
https://github.com/jboss-fuse/fuse/tree/master/insight/insight-metrics)

I guess using Sirona is another alternative to storing the metrics? It'd be
nice to have an ElasticSearch collector for Sirona, then the existing
ElasticSearch based plugin would just work ;)


>From an ActiveMQ perspective; adopting Sirona would require changes to the
existing ActiveMQ MBeans right? Or can Sirona just act as a different
collector/persistence engine of metrics?


On 30 October 2013 14:53, Paul Gale <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What on earth is sirona/hawtio????
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi guys, something to think about is sirona/hawtio I think. Any ideas?
> > Goals are not exactly the same but there are some overlaps so I'd expect
> > sirona amq, camel etc plugins.
> > Le 29 oct. 2013 21:19, "Hiram Chirino" <hi...@hiramchirino.com> a écrit
> :
> >
> >> You could also post process that hawtio bits.  It gets packaged in the
> >> assembly module.  Right now the
> >> assembly/src/main/descriptors/common-bin.xml file handles unpacking
> >> the hawtio bits into the activemq distro.  You could overwrite any
> >> bits that are needed there.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, James Carman
> >> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >> > But, it's the ActiveMQ Web Console now, installed by default with the
> >> > newest ActiveMQ.  Shouldn't the ActiveMQ PMC have some oversight into
> >> > their web console?
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM, James Strachan
> >> > <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Its not an Apache project
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 25 October 2013 15:35, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> There is no PMC oversight to the changes?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <
> claus.ibsen@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > The github way of doing things
> >> >>> > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
> >> >>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do
> >> that?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Thanks,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> James
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > --
> >> >>> > Claus Ibsen
> >> >>> > -----------------
> >> >>> > Red Hat, Inc.
> >> >>> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> >> >>> > Twitter: davsclaus
> >> >>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> >>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> James
> >> >> -------
> >> >> Red Hat
> >> >>
> >> >> Email: jstracha@redhat.com
> >> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> >> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews
> >> >> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> Open Source Integration
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hiram Chirino
> >>
> >> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
> >>
> >> hchirino@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com
> >>
> >> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
> >>
> >> blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo
> >>
>



-- 
James
-------
Red Hat

Email: jstracha@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews
Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/

Open Source Integration

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by Paul Gale <pa...@gmail.com>.
What on earth is sirona/hawtio????

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys, something to think about is sirona/hawtio I think. Any ideas?
> Goals are not exactly the same but there are some overlaps so I'd expect
> sirona amq, camel etc plugins.
> Le 29 oct. 2013 21:19, "Hiram Chirino" <hi...@hiramchirino.com> a écrit :
>
>> You could also post process that hawtio bits.  It gets packaged in the
>> assembly module.  Right now the
>> assembly/src/main/descriptors/common-bin.xml file handles unpacking
>> the hawtio bits into the activemq distro.  You could overwrite any
>> bits that are needed there.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, James Carman
>> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> > But, it's the ActiveMQ Web Console now, installed by default with the
>> > newest ActiveMQ.  Shouldn't the ActiveMQ PMC have some oversight into
>> > their web console?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM, James Strachan
>> > <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Its not an Apache project
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 25 October 2013 15:35, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> There is no PMC oversight to the changes?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > The github way of doing things
>> >>> > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
>> >>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do
>> that?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thanks,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> James
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > Claus Ibsen
>> >>> > -----------------
>> >>> > Red Hat, Inc.
>> >>> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>> >>> > Twitter: davsclaus
>> >>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> >>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> James
>> >> -------
>> >> Red Hat
>> >>
>> >> Email: jstracha@redhat.com
>> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> >> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews
>> >> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>> >>
>> >> Open Source Integration
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hiram Chirino
>>
>> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
>>
>> hchirino@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com
>>
>> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
>>
>> blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo
>>

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hi guys, something to think about is sirona/hawtio I think. Any ideas?
Goals are not exactly the same but there are some overlaps so I'd expect
sirona amq, camel etc plugins.
Le 29 oct. 2013 21:19, "Hiram Chirino" <hi...@hiramchirino.com> a écrit :

> You could also post process that hawtio bits.  It gets packaged in the
> assembly module.  Right now the
> assembly/src/main/descriptors/common-bin.xml file handles unpacking
> the hawtio bits into the activemq distro.  You could overwrite any
> bits that are needed there.
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> > But, it's the ActiveMQ Web Console now, installed by default with the
> > newest ActiveMQ.  Shouldn't the ActiveMQ PMC have some oversight into
> > their web console?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM, James Strachan
> > <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Its not an Apache project
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25 October 2013 15:35, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> There is no PMC oversight to the changes?
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > The github way of doing things
> >>> > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
> >>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >>> >> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do
> that?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> James
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Claus Ibsen
> >>> > -----------------
> >>> > Red Hat, Inc.
> >>> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> >>> > Twitter: davsclaus
> >>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> James
> >> -------
> >> Red Hat
> >>
> >> Email: jstracha@redhat.com
> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews
> >> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> Open Source Integration
>
>
>
> --
> Hiram Chirino
>
> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
>
> hchirino@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com
>
> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
>
> blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo
>

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by Hiram Chirino <hi...@hiramchirino.com>.
You could also post process that hawtio bits.  It gets packaged in the
assembly module.  Right now the
assembly/src/main/descriptors/common-bin.xml file handles unpacking
the hawtio bits into the activemq distro.  You could overwrite any
bits that are needed there.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> But, it's the ActiveMQ Web Console now, installed by default with the
> newest ActiveMQ.  Shouldn't the ActiveMQ PMC have some oversight into
> their web console?
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM, James Strachan
> <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Its not an Apache project
>>
>>
>> On 25 October 2013 15:35, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is no PMC oversight to the changes?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > The github way of doing things
>>> > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
>>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> >> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do that?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> James
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Claus Ibsen
>>> > -----------------
>>> > Red Hat, Inc.
>>> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>>> > Twitter: davsclaus
>>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> James
>> -------
>> Red Hat
>>
>> Email: jstracha@redhat.com
>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews
>> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Open Source Integration



-- 
Hiram Chirino

Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.

hchirino@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com

skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino

blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
But, it's the ActiveMQ Web Console now, installed by default with the
newest ActiveMQ.  Shouldn't the ActiveMQ PMC have some oversight into
their web console?

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM, James Strachan
<ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Its not an Apache project
>
>
> On 25 October 2013 15:35, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>> There is no PMC oversight to the changes?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > The github way of doing things
>> > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
>> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do that?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> James
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Claus Ibsen
>> > -----------------
>> > Red Hat, Inc.
>> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
>> > Twitter: davsclaus
>> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>
>
>
>
> --
> James
> -------
> Red Hat
>
> Email: jstracha@redhat.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews
> Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>
> Open Source Integration

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com>.
Its not an Apache project


On 25 October 2013 15:35, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:

> There is no PMC oversight to the changes?
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The github way of doing things
> > https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
> > <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do that?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> James
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Claus Ibsen
> > -----------------
> > Red Hat, Inc.
> > Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> > Twitter: davsclaus
> > Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>



-- 
James
-------
Red Hat

Email: jstracha@redhat.com
Web: http://fusesource.com
Twitter: jstrachan, fusenews
Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/

Open Source Integration

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
There is no PMC oversight to the changes?

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The github way of doing things
> https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
> <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do that?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> James
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> Red Hat, Inc.
> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> Twitter: davsclaus
> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen

Re: New Web Console...

Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
The github way of doing things
https://github.com/hawtio/hawtio

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, James Carman
<ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> If I want to submit a change to the new web console, how do I do that?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James



-- 
Claus Ibsen
-----------------
Red Hat, Inc.
Email: cibsen@redhat.com
Twitter: davsclaus
Blog: http://davsclaus.com
Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen