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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org> on 2004/12/02 06:10:16 UTC

clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

i played around with
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32298 tonight, and it
seems to me that cocoon://lenya-page.xsl does not work. removing the
fallback:// from the pipeline makes it work. the next problem has to do
with contextprefix not being set which leads to

Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException:
C:\digitas\src\lenya-1.2\build\lenya\webapp\lenya\pubs\{$contextprefix}\sitemap.xmap
(The system cannot find the path specified)

therefore i disabled that pipeline to get past the login screen:

      <!-- Lenya GUI screen -->
      <map:match pattern="lenya-screen.xsl">
        <map:generate src="lenya/xslt/util/page2xhtml.xsl"/>
<!--        <map:transform src="lenya/xslt/util/page2xslt.xsl">
          <map:parameter name="contextprefix" value="{request:contextPath}"/>
        </map:transform>
-->        <map:serialize type="xml"/>
      </map:match>


which gets me the next error:

Unable to get transformer handler for
cocoon://lenya-page/default/authoring/index.xml?doctype=homepage

sure enough, if i call lenya-page directly, i get:

The publication for ID [lenya-page] could not be created.

either this is an artifact of calling these pipelines directly, or it
indicates a problem with the fallback input module and the publication
classes.

maybe this helps someone to take this one step further towards resolution

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Re: Simple usability change

Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@wyona.com>.
Jean Pierre LeJacq said:
> For our local publications we've changed the edit menu entries to
> more intuitive names.
>
>   Edit with BXE          WYSIWYG editor
>   Edit with Forms        Forms editor
>   Edit with one Form     Source editor
>
> If folks think this makes sense, I can submit a patch for English
> and French i18n files.

+1 for jargon elimination.

> One bug I see is that one of the pipelines strips out xhtml tags.
> For accessiblity, its necessary to use:
>
>  <xhtml:abbr title="...">WYSIWYG</abbr>
>
> Any ideas which transformer is doing this?

probably the strip_namespaces.xsl

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Re: Simple usability change

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:

> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
>> Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
>>
>>> For our local publications we've changed the edit menu entries to
>>> more intuitive names.
>>>
>>>   Edit with BXE          WYSIWYG editor
>>>   Edit with Forms        Forms editor
>>>   Edit with one Form     Source editor
>>
>>
>>
>> +1
>
>
> +0.9, since we have two WYSIWYG editors; Kupu and BXE


and Xopus and maybe some we don't know of ;-)

but yes, we should take care of this. What about

WYSIWYG Editor (BXE)
WYSWYG Editor (Kupu)
Forms Editor
Source Editor

?

>
> Maybe we will have only one in the future, but I do not think so.


me neither

Michi

>
> However, the changes will also affect i18n files.
> Jean Pierre, would like to create a bugzilla entry for this enhancement?
> Maybe you also want to create the needed patches? :)
>


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Re: Simple usability change

Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Rolf Kulemann wrote:

> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> > Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> >
> >> For our local publications we've changed the edit menu entries to
> >> more intuitive names.
> >>
> >>   Edit with BXE          WYSIWYG editor
> >>   Edit with Forms        Forms editor
> >>   Edit with one Form     Source editor
> >
> >
> > +1
>
> +0.9, since we have two WYSIWYG editors; Kupu and BXE
>
> Maybe we will have only one in the future, but I do not think so.
>
> However, the changes will also affect i18n files.
> Jean Pierre, would like to create a bugzilla entry for this enhancement?
> Maybe you also want to create the needed patches? :)

For multiple editors how about:

  WYSIWYG Editor (BXE)
  WYSIWYG Editor (Kupu)

Yes, I'll submit a patch for English and French in Bugzilla today
since all votes up to now have been positive. Antonio has offered a
Spanish update.

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Re: Target browser support for 1.2.1

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 21:33, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> While testing lenya-1.2.1 I notice that the main authoring drop down
> menus do not work in IE.  

Works for me. Which Lenya and Cocoon version do you use? Is your problem
reproduceable on the demo server?

> Is this a known problem?  My understanding
> is that we support IE everywhere except for the BXE editor.  Do we
> have a target list of browsers we want to support?
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Re: Target browser support for 1.2.1

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
On Jue, 23 de Diciembre de 2004, 10:35, Jean Pierre LeJacq dijo:
> I've just upgraded my IE to XPsp2.

I hope MS will bless you! ;-)

Best Regards,

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Re: Target browser support for 1.2.1

Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Rolf Kulemann wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 16:26, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> > > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > While testing lenya-1.2.1 I notice that the main authoring drop down
> > > > > menus do not work in IE.  Is this a known problem?  My understanding
> > > > > is that we support IE everywhere except for the BXE editor.  Do we
> > > > > have a target list of browsers we want to support?
> > > >
> > > > are you saying the lenya menus do no longer work in ie?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> >
> > I can not confirm this problem.
> >
> > I use
> >
> > * Cocoon 2.1.5.1
> > * Jetty
> > * Lenya from trunk and the pre release archives
>
> This was against your test server.  I'll try again.  I've just
> upgraded my IE to XPsp2.

Latest version of IE seems to work fine.  I'm not sure what the
problem was.  If no one else can confirm, I suggest we ignore.

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Re: Target browser support for 1.2.1

Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Rolf Kulemann wrote:

> On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 16:26, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> >
> > > Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> > > > Hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > While testing lenya-1.2.1 I notice that the main authoring drop down
> > > > menus do not work in IE.  Is this a known problem?  My understanding
> > > > is that we support IE everywhere except for the BXE editor.  Do we
> > > > have a target list of browsers we want to support?
> > >
> > > are you saying the lenya menus do no longer work in ie?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> I can not confirm this problem.
>
> I use
>
> * Cocoon 2.1.5.1
> * Jetty
> * Lenya from trunk and the pre release archives

This was against your test server.  I'll try again.  I've just
upgraded my IE to XPsp2.

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Re: Target browser support for 1.2.1

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ma...@rolf-kulemann.com>.
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 16:26, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> 
> > Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > While testing lenya-1.2.1 I notice that the main authoring drop down
> > > menus do not work in IE.  Is this a known problem?  My understanding
> > > is that we support IE everywhere except for the BXE editor.  Do we
> > > have a target list of browsers we want to support?
> >
> > are you saying the lenya menus do no longer work in ie?
> 
> Yes.

I can not confirm this problem.

I use 

* Cocoon 2.1.5.1
* Jetty
* Lenya from trunk and the pre release archives
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Re: Target browser support for 1.2.1

Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:

> Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > While testing lenya-1.2.1 I notice that the main authoring drop down
> > menus do not work in IE.  Is this a known problem?  My understanding
> > is that we support IE everywhere except for the BXE editor.  Do we
> > have a target list of browsers we want to support?
>
> are you saying the lenya menus do no longer work in ie?

Yes.

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Re: Target browser support for 1.2.1

Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> While testing lenya-1.2.1 I notice that the main authoring drop down
> menus do not work in IE.  Is this a known problem?  My understanding
> is that we support IE everywhere except for the BXE editor.  Do we
> have a target list of browsers we want to support?

are you saying the lenya menus do no longer work in ie?


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Re: Requirement for cookies in lenya-1.2.1

Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> When testing with
> 
>   http://olr.kbs.uni-hannover.de:8888/default/
> 
> the sitetree in the site tab only displays if cookies are enabled.
> I'm testing with firefox.
> 
> I did not think that cookies is a requirement to use lenya.  Can
> someone confirm.  If true, this is a bug.  If not, we need to
> document this requirement.

its not a bug. its how the sitetree js is implemented.

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Requirement for cookies in lenya-1.2.1

Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
Hi folks,

When testing with

  http://olr.kbs.uni-hannover.de:8888/default/

the sitetree in the site tab only displays if cookies are enabled.
I'm testing with firefox.

I did not think that cookies is a requirement to use lenya.  Can
someone confirm.  If true, this is a bug.  If not, we need to
document this requirement.

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Target browser support for 1.2.1

Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
Hi folks,

While testing lenya-1.2.1 I notice that the main authoring drop down
menus do not work in IE.  Is this a known problem?  My understanding
is that we support IE everywhere except for the BXE editor.  Do we
have a target list of browsers we want to support?

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Re: Simple usability change

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> 
>> For our local publications we've changed the edit menu entries to
>> more intuitive names.
>>
>>   Edit with BXE          WYSIWYG editor
>>   Edit with Forms        Forms editor
>>   Edit with one Form     Source editor
> 
> 
> +1

+0.9, since we have two WYSIWYG editors; Kupu and BXE

Maybe we will have only one in the future, but I do not think so.

However, the changes will also affect i18n files.
Jean Pierre, would like to create a bugzilla entry for this enhancement?
Maybe you also want to create the needed patches? :)

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Re: Simple usability change

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> For our local publications we've changed the edit menu entries to
> more intuitive names.
> 
>   Edit with BXE          WYSIWYG editor
>   Edit with Forms        Forms editor
>   Edit with one Form     Source editor

+1

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
> >>what about setting the default to xalan then? xsltc problems can be
> >>notoriously hard to track down, and i think using xalan would be a small
> >>price to pay for being able to use cocoon 2.1.6

+1

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> On Jue, 2 de Diciembre de 2004, 8:27, Gregor J. Rothfuss dijo:
> 
>>Andreas Hartmann said:
>>
>>
>>>Sorry, I was not aware that the trunk uses Xalan by default.
>>>The trunk *does not* work with XSLTC.
>>
>>what about setting the default to xalan then? xsltc problems can be
>>notoriously hard to track down, and i think using xalan would be a small
>>price to pay for being able to use cocoon 2.1.6
> 
> 
> +1

+1

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
On Jue, 2 de Diciembre de 2004, 8:27, Gregor J. Rothfuss dijo:
> Andreas Hartmann said:
>
>> Sorry, I was not aware that the trunk uses Xalan by default.
>> The trunk *does not* work with XSLTC.
>
> what about setting the default to xalan then? xsltc problems can be
> notoriously hard to track down, and i think using xalan would be a small
> price to pay for being able to use cocoon 2.1.6

+1

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> Andreas Hartmann said:
> 
> 
>>Sorry, I was not aware that the trunk uses Xalan by default.
>>The trunk *does not* work with XSLTC.
> 
> 
> what about setting the default to xalan then? xsltc problems can be
> notoriously hard to track down, and i think using xalan would be a small
> price to pay for being able to use cocoon 2.1.6


AFAIK there are only 2 advantages of XSLTC:

- better overall performance
- incremental processing (which I never really got to work).

I agree that we could try to switch to Xalan for 1.2.1.
But this requires comprehensive testing.

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann said:

> Sorry, I was not aware that the trunk uses Xalan by default.
> The trunk *does not* work with XSLTC.

what about setting the default to xalan then? xsltc problems can be
notoriously hard to track down, and i think using xalan would be a small
price to pay for being able to use cocoon 2.1.6

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:

[...]

> The trunk works fine with 2.1.6 + XSLTC now.

Sorry, I was not aware that the trunk uses Xalan by default.
The trunk *does not* work with XSLTC.

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Re: Simple usability change

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
On Jue, 2 de Diciembre de 2004, 17:56, Michael Wechner dijo:
> Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
>
>>For our local publications we've changed the edit menu entries to
>>more intuitive names.
>>
>>  Edit with BXE          WYSIWYG editor
>>  Edit with Forms        Forms editor
>>  Edit with one Form     Source editor
>>
>>
> +1
>
>>If folks think this makes sense, I can submit a patch for English
>>and French i18n files.

I can update Spanish! ;-)

Best Regards,

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Re: Simple usability change

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:

>For our local publications we've changed the edit menu entries to
>more intuitive names.
>
>  Edit with BXE          WYSIWYG editor
>  Edit with Forms        Forms editor
>  Edit with one Form     Source editor
>  
>
+1

>If folks think this makes sense, I can submit a patch for English
>and French i18n files.
>  
>

yes, that would be nice


Michi


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Simple usability change

Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
For our local publications we've changed the edit menu entries to
more intuitive names.

  Edit with BXE          WYSIWYG editor
  Edit with Forms        Forms editor
  Edit with one Form     Source editor

If folks think this makes sense, I can submit a patch for English
and French i18n files.

One bug I see is that one of the pipelines strips out xhtml tags.
For accessiblity, its necessary to use:

 <xhtml:abbr title="...">WYSIWYG</abbr>

Any ideas which transformer is doing this?

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> 
>> i played around with
>> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32298 tonight, and it
>> seems to me that cocoon://lenya-page.xsl does not work.
> 
> 
> Fixed it in 1.2-dev (works with Xalan now).
> The NPE in lenya-screen.xsl is probably an XSLTC issue,
> I browsed the code a little but have no clue yet what
> caused the problem. Maybe we should just try another
> Xalan build.
> 
>> removing the
>> fallback:// from the pipeline makes it work. the next problem has to do
>> with contextprefix not being set which leads to
> 
> 
> Are you trying it with the trunk (1.4)?
> In 1.2-dev, there should be no fallback:// ...
> 
> I'll try the trunk with 2.1.6 too.

The trunk works fine with 2.1.6 + XSLTC now.
I once cleaned up some XSLTs, namespaces etc. in the trunk,
so I guess we still have XSLT issues in the 1.2 branch.

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> 
>> i played around with
>> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32298 tonight, and it
>> seems to me that cocoon://lenya-page.xsl does not work.
> 
> 
> Fixed it in 1.2-dev (works with Xalan now).
> The NPE in lenya-screen.xsl is probably an XSLTC issue,
> I browsed the code a little but have no clue yet what
> caused the problem. Maybe we should just try another
> Xalan build.

Very strange. It works when I save the generated stylesheet
(lenya-screen.xsl) and apply the saved stylesheet.

But applying the generated stylesheet on-the-fly causes the error.

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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> i played around with
> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32298 tonight, and it
> seems to me that cocoon://lenya-page.xsl does not work.

Fixed it in 1.2-dev (works with Xalan now).
The NPE in lenya-screen.xsl is probably an XSLTC issue,
I browsed the code a little but have no clue yet what
caused the problem. Maybe we should just try another
Xalan build.

> removing the
> fallback:// from the pipeline makes it work. the next problem has to do
> with contextprefix not being set which leads to

Are you trying it with the trunk (1.4)?
In 1.2-dev, there should be no fallback:// ...

I'll try the trunk with 2.1.6 too.

-- Andreas


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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
On Jue, 2 de Diciembre de 2004, 2:51, Thorsten Scherler dijo:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss escribió:
> <snip/>
>>
>> maybe this helps someone to take this one step further towards
>> resolution
>>
>
> In Forrest trunk we use cocoon trunk because 2.6.1 is not working either.

It is only 2.1.6! ;-)
>
> Did somebody try cocoon trunk?

The cocoon trunk will have a big refactoring and was not recomended to be
used by cocoon developers.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo


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Re: clues about cocoon 2.1.6 incompatibility

Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss escribió:
<snip/>
> 
> maybe this helps someone to take this one step further towards resolution
> 

In Forrest trunk we use cocoon trunk because 2.6.1 is not working either.

Did somebody try cocoon trunk?
-- 
thorsten

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