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Posted to user@jspwiki.apache.org by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com> on 2008/04/21 09:39:16 UTC
Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Alexey Kakunin wrote:
> Murray
> Seems you did a great job - we just planned to implement oun tagging
> in our EmForge (http://www.emforge.org) project - but seems it will
> be better to reuse it.
[...]
Alexey,
Turns out I'd already created an ant target for the TagPlugin and
posted a distribution on 2007-08-03, but I've just updated that
with a new distribution using the current code. For details check
out the WikiTags page at:
http://altheim.4java.ca/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WikiTags
I believe the current code should be functional as a standalone
(i.e., I've briefly checked dependencies) but would appreciate
feedback if this doesn't work. There is a link to detailed
installation instructions (including icons and stylesheet) on the
above page.
Feedback welcome.
Cheers,
Murray
--
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = =
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = ===
SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = =
Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
-- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Posted by Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com>.
Murray,
I'd love to use your tagplugin, but unfortunately I cannot get it to work
consistently. I am willing to debug it if you can help me.
Does anyone else have any suggestions for tagging of JSPWiki pages?
--
Bobman
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Murray,
>
> Sorry for taking so long in getting back to this, but I am looking at
> JSPWiki and the TagPlugin again. I would like to debug the problem I am
> having, but I can't find the sources for your plugin. I have the
> ceryle-tag-plugin-20080422.zip from the web site, but no sources.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Bobman
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Murray,
>>
>> I have confirmed it is not a browser caching bug by (as you suggest) using
>> shift-load in Firefox.
>>
>> I have not tried debugging from sources, but I'll try that when I have a
>> chance and let you know what I find.
>>
>> --
>> Bobma
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Paige wrote:
>>>
>>>> Murray,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the quick fix! It works now and I am experimenting with it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> Good to hear.
>>>
>>> One odd thing I've found: the HasTagOf doesn't seem to always work.
>>>>
>>>> 1. create page 'Project' with:
>>>> Main page of the Project.
>>>> [{HasTagOf Project}]
>>>>
>>>
>>> a query? or do you mean
>>>
>>> [{Tag Project}]
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> [{Tags Project}]
>>>
>>> (same thing.)
>>>
>>> 2. create page 'ProjectPage1' with:
>>>> This is Page 1 of the project
>>>> [{Tag Project Project1Requirements}]
>>>>
>>>> 3. create page 'Project1Requirements' with:
>>>> Requirements for Project1
>>>> [{HasTagOf Project1Requirements}]
>>>>
>>>> The first few times I viewed the 'Project1Requirements' page it said
>>>> there
>>>> were no pages with that tag. About the 5th time I viewed it the link to
>>>> ProjectPage1 appeared.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a plugin issue or a browser-caching issue?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It may even be a TagManager caching issue. There's a
>>> ceryle.tagmanager.usecache
>>> property that can be set to enable or disable caching (see javadocs for
>>> details).
>>>
>>> Note that the TagManager crawls all the wiki pages initially, so be sure
>>> to
>>> give it a bit of time before you start testing. You may wish to
>>> instrument
>>> the TagManager with log or System.err calls to see what's going on. Be
>>> sure
>>> you're actually receiving the wiki events indicating the page contents
>>> have
>>> changed. There's a number of possible issues. It's interesting that if
>>> you
>>> wait long enough things seem to sort themselves out. If you're using
>>> FireFox
>>> you may try shift-clicking the refresh button (if I'm not mistaken that
>>> forces a refresh without using the cache), or turn browser caching off to
>>> see if that makes any difference. There is an initial delay before
>>> crawling
>>> the site for the first time but the TagManager doesn't otherwise have any
>>> built-in delays.
>>>
>>> I can reproduce it by removing the 'Project' tag from ProjectPage1 and
>>>> viewing the 'Project' page. It immediately showed the correct result of
>>>> 'no
>>>> pages', but after adding the Project tag back again, it took a while for
>>>> it
>>>> to show up again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That *sounds* like caching, but without some logs or something I don't
>>> know offhand.
>>>
>>> I have noted a couple of bugs with the HasTagOf plugin that are related
>>> to logic, not sure if this is a bug or not.
>>>
>>> Murray
>>>
>>>
>>> ...........................................................................
>>> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> ===
>>> = =
>>> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = =
>>> ===
>>> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, W>antanabe Zen Monk = =
>>> = =
>>>
>>>
>>> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
>>> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
>>> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
>>> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
>>> -- The Blue Cliff Record
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Posted by Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com>.
Murray,
Sorry for taking so long in getting back to this, but I am looking at
JSPWiki and the TagPlugin again. I would like to debug the problem I am
having, but I can't find the sources for your plugin. I have the
ceryle-tag-plugin-20080422.zip from the web site, but no sources.
Thanks.
--
Bobman
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Murray,
>
> I have confirmed it is not a browser caching bug by (as you suggest) using
> shift-load in Firefox.
>
> I have not tried debugging from sources, but I'll try that when I have a
> chance and let you know what I find.
>
> --
> Bobma
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob Paige wrote:
>>
>>> Murray,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick fix! It works now and I am experimenting with it.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Good to hear.
>>
>> One odd thing I've found: the HasTagOf doesn't seem to always work.
>>>
>>> 1. create page 'Project' with:
>>> Main page of the Project.
>>> [{HasTagOf Project}]
>>>
>>
>> a query? or do you mean
>>
>> [{Tag Project}]
>>
>> or
>>
>> [{Tags Project}]
>>
>> (same thing.)
>>
>> 2. create page 'ProjectPage1' with:
>>> This is Page 1 of the project
>>> [{Tag Project Project1Requirements}]
>>>
>>> 3. create page 'Project1Requirements' with:
>>> Requirements for Project1
>>> [{HasTagOf Project1Requirements}]
>>>
>>> The first few times I viewed the 'Project1Requirements' page it said
>>> there
>>> were no pages with that tag. About the 5th time I viewed it the link to
>>> ProjectPage1 appeared.
>>>
>>> Is this a plugin issue or a browser-caching issue?
>>>
>>
>> It may even be a TagManager caching issue. There's a
>> ceryle.tagmanager.usecache
>> property that can be set to enable or disable caching (see javadocs for
>> details).
>>
>> Note that the TagManager crawls all the wiki pages initially, so be sure
>> to
>> give it a bit of time before you start testing. You may wish to instrument
>> the TagManager with log or System.err calls to see what's going on. Be
>> sure
>> you're actually receiving the wiki events indicating the page contents
>> have
>> changed. There's a number of possible issues. It's interesting that if you
>> wait long enough things seem to sort themselves out. If you're using
>> FireFox
>> you may try shift-clicking the refresh button (if I'm not mistaken that
>> forces a refresh without using the cache), or turn browser caching off to
>> see if that makes any difference. There is an initial delay before
>> crawling
>> the site for the first time but the TagManager doesn't otherwise have any
>> built-in delays.
>>
>> I can reproduce it by removing the 'Project' tag from ProjectPage1 and
>>> viewing the 'Project' page. It immediately showed the correct result of
>>> 'no
>>> pages', but after adding the Project tag back again, it took a while for
>>> it
>>> to show up again.
>>>
>>
>> That *sounds* like caching, but without some logs or something I don't
>> know offhand.
>>
>> I have noted a couple of bugs with the HasTagOf plugin that are related
>> to logic, not sure if this is a bug or not.
>>
>> Murray
>>
>>
>> ...........................................................................
>> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === =
>> =
>> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = =
>> ===
>> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, W>antanabe Zen Monk = = =
>> =
>>
>>
>> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
>> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
>> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
>> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
>> -- The Blue Cliff Record
>>
>
>
Re: Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Posted by Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com>.
Murray,
I have confirmed it is not a browser caching bug by (as you suggest) using
shift-load in Firefox.
I have not tried debugging from sources, but I'll try that when I have a
chance and let you know what I find.
--
Bobma
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>
wrote:
> Bob Paige wrote:
>
> > Murray,
> >
> > Thanks for the quick fix! It works now and I am experimenting with it.
> >
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Good to hear.
>
> One odd thing I've found: the HasTagOf doesn't seem to always work.
> >
> > 1. create page 'Project' with:
> > Main page of the Project.
> > [{HasTagOf Project}]
> >
>
> a query? or do you mean
>
> [{Tag Project}]
>
> or
>
> [{Tags Project}]
>
> (same thing.)
>
> 2. create page 'ProjectPage1' with:
> > This is Page 1 of the project
> > [{Tag Project Project1Requirements}]
> >
> > 3. create page 'Project1Requirements' with:
> > Requirements for Project1
> > [{HasTagOf Project1Requirements}]
> >
> > The first few times I viewed the 'Project1Requirements' page it said
> > there
> > were no pages with that tag. About the 5th time I viewed it the link to
> > ProjectPage1 appeared.
> >
> > Is this a plugin issue or a browser-caching issue?
> >
>
> It may even be a TagManager caching issue. There's a
> ceryle.tagmanager.usecache
> property that can be set to enable or disable caching (see javadocs for
> details).
>
> Note that the TagManager crawls all the wiki pages initially, so be sure
> to
> give it a bit of time before you start testing. You may wish to instrument
> the TagManager with log or System.err calls to see what's going on. Be
> sure
> you're actually receiving the wiki events indicating the page contents
> have
> changed. There's a number of possible issues. It's interesting that if you
> wait long enough things seem to sort themselves out. If you're using
> FireFox
> you may try shift-clicking the refresh button (if I'm not mistaken that
> forces a refresh without using the cache), or turn browser caching off to
> see if that makes any difference. There is an initial delay before
> crawling
> the site for the first time but the TagManager doesn't otherwise have any
> built-in delays.
>
> I can reproduce it by removing the 'Project' tag from ProjectPage1 and
> > viewing the 'Project' page. It immediately showed the correct result of
> > 'no
> > pages', but after adding the Project tag back again, it took a while for
> > it
> > to show up again.
> >
>
> That *sounds* like caching, but without some logs or something I don't
> know offhand.
>
> I have noted a couple of bugs with the HasTagOf plugin that are related
> to logic, not sure if this is a bug or not.
>
> Murray
>
>
> ...........................................................................
> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === =
> =
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = =
> ===
> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, W>antanabe Zen Monk = = =
> =
>
>
> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
> -- The Blue Cliff Record
>
Re: Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Posted by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>.
Bob Paige wrote:
> Murray,
>
> Thanks for the quick fix! It works now and I am experimenting with it.
Hi Bob,
Good to hear.
> One odd thing I've found: the HasTagOf doesn't seem to always work.
>
> 1. create page 'Project' with:
> Main page of the Project.
> [{HasTagOf Project}]
a query? or do you mean
[{Tag Project}]
or
[{Tags Project}]
(same thing.)
> 2. create page 'ProjectPage1' with:
> This is Page 1 of the project
> [{Tag Project Project1Requirements}]
>
> 3. create page 'Project1Requirements' with:
> Requirements for Project1
> [{HasTagOf Project1Requirements}]
>
> The first few times I viewed the 'Project1Requirements' page it said there
> were no pages with that tag. About the 5th time I viewed it the link to
> ProjectPage1 appeared.
>
> Is this a plugin issue or a browser-caching issue?
It may even be a TagManager caching issue. There's a ceryle.tagmanager.usecache
property that can be set to enable or disable caching (see javadocs for details).
Note that the TagManager crawls all the wiki pages initially, so be sure to
give it a bit of time before you start testing. You may wish to instrument
the TagManager with log or System.err calls to see what's going on. Be sure
you're actually receiving the wiki events indicating the page contents have
changed. There's a number of possible issues. It's interesting that if you
wait long enough things seem to sort themselves out. If you're using FireFox
you may try shift-clicking the refresh button (if I'm not mistaken that
forces a refresh without using the cache), or turn browser caching off to
see if that makes any difference. There is an initial delay before crawling
the site for the first time but the TagManager doesn't otherwise have any
built-in delays.
> I can reproduce it by removing the 'Project' tag from ProjectPage1 and
> viewing the 'Project' page. It immediately showed the correct result of 'no
> pages', but after adding the Project tag back again, it took a while for it
> to show up again.
That *sounds* like caching, but without some logs or something I don't
know offhand.
I have noted a couple of bugs with the HasTagOf plugin that are related
to logic, not sure if this is a bug or not.
Murray
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = =
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = ===
SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, W>antanabe Zen Monk = = = =
Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
-- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Posted by Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com>.
Murray,
Thanks for the quick fix! It works now and I am experimenting with it.
One odd thing I've found: the HasTagOf doesn't seem to always work.
1. create page 'Project' with:
Main page of the Project.
[{HasTagOf Project}]
2. create page 'ProjectPage1' with:
This is Page 1 of the project
[{Tag Project Project1Requirements}]
3. create page 'Project1Requirements' with:
Requirements for Project1
[{HasTagOf Project1Requirements}]
The first few times I viewed the 'Project1Requirements' page it said there
were no pages with that tag. About the 5th time I viewed it the link to
ProjectPage1 appeared.
Is this a plugin issue or a browser-caching issue?
I can reproduce it by removing the 'Project' tag from ProjectPage1 and
viewing the 'Project' page. It immediately showed the correct result of 'no
pages', but after adding the Project tag back again, it took a while for it
to show up again.
--
Bobman
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>
wrote:
> Okay, I've fixed the plugin name aliasing issue and just uploaded
> both the jar file and as a zip package including icons and CSS
> stylesheet. The fixed files are dated 20080422. See
>
> See section "Distribution"
> http://purl.org/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WikiTags
>
> See section "Download the Wiki Tag Distribution"
> http://purl.org/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=InstallingWikiTags
>
> resp.
>
> [I'm planning on updating the CeryleWiki from its current JSPWiki
> v2.4.102 to the latest stable 2.6.2 soon and hopefully can get that
> pesky ShortURLConstructor finally working. It'd be nice to have
> shorter URLs.]
>
> Murray
>
> Bob Paige wrote:
>
> > Murray,
> >
> > I've installed the tags plugin on my fresh JSPWiki install as described
> > on
> > the above page, but I'm having a few problems.
> >
> > My first test was to create a page called 'Project' and add the
> > following to
> > it (after a simple one-line description):
> > [{HasTagOf Project}]
> >
> > This resulted in a ClassNotFoundException looking for
> > org/ceryle/wiki/plugin/assertion/HasAssertedTagOfPlugin
> >
> > I get a similar error (looking for some assertion class) if I use the
> > 'Tag'
> > call.
> >
>
>
> ...........................................................................
> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === =
> =
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = =
> ===
> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = =
> =
>
> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
> -- The Blue Cliff Record
>
Re: Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Posted by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>.
Okay, I've fixed the plugin name aliasing issue and just uploaded
both the jar file and as a zip package including icons and CSS
stylesheet. The fixed files are dated 20080422. See
See section "Distribution"
http://purl.org/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WikiTags
See section "Download the Wiki Tag Distribution"
http://purl.org/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=InstallingWikiTags
resp.
[I'm planning on updating the CeryleWiki from its current JSPWiki
v2.4.102 to the latest stable 2.6.2 soon and hopefully can get that
pesky ShortURLConstructor finally working. It'd be nice to have
shorter URLs.]
Murray
Bob Paige wrote:
> Murray,
>
> I've installed the tags plugin on my fresh JSPWiki install as described on
> the above page, but I'm having a few problems.
>
> My first test was to create a page called 'Project' and add the following to
> it (after a simple one-line description):
> [{HasTagOf Project}]
>
> This resulted in a ClassNotFoundException looking for
> org/ceryle/wiki/plugin/assertion/HasAssertedTagOfPlugin
>
> I get a similar error (looking for some assertion class) if I use the 'Tag'
> call.
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = =
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = ===
SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = =
Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
-- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Posted by Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>.
Bob Paige wrote:
> Murray,
>
> I've installed the tags plugin on my fresh JSPWiki install as
> described on the above page, but I'm having a few problems.
>
> My first test was to create a page called 'Project' and add
> the following to it (after a simple one-line description):
> [{HasTagOf Project}]
Hi Bob,
These are likely aliasing problems with a ready solution.
But first of all, to declare a tag you'd use the Tag plugin itself. The
HasTagOf plugin is a query on existing tags, so to declare a "Project"
tag on a page you'd more likely want to use
[{Tag Project}]
> This resulted in a ClassNotFoundException looking for
> org/ceryle/wiki/plugin/assertion/HasAssertedTagOfPlugin
>
> I get a similar error (looking for some assertion class) if I use
> the 'Tag' call.
>
> Looks like this is dependent on your assertion framework?
Only in the sense that I've forgotten to change the commenting in
the aliasing classes, since what I'm doing is changing which classes
are called when "[{Tag}]" and "[{HasTagOf}]" are encountered.
When using the Assertion Framework, the classes Tag.java and
HasTagOf.java are aliases to (i.e., extend) AssertTagPlugin.java
and HasAssertedTagOfPlugin.java (resp.). When the Assertion
Framework is not in use these should extend TagPlugin and
HasTagOfPlugin (resp/). If you look in the aliasing files you
can see the commenting. If you change the commenting and
recompile things will work. I'll go ahead and make those changes
and post a new distribution later today since the default should
be to not use the Assertion Framework (I just happen to always
be using it in my development work so I'd not noticed). I'll also
try to improve the documentation on which plugin to use when.
Thanks for pointing out this error,
Murray
...........................................................................
Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === = =
http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = = ===
SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = = =
Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
-- The Blue Cliff Record
Re: Tagging Support for JSPWiki (Was: groups or categories?)
Posted by Bob Paige <bo...@gmail.com>.
Murray,
I've installed the tags plugin on my fresh JSPWiki install as described on
the above page, but I'm having a few problems.
My first test was to create a page called 'Project' and add the following to
it (after a simple one-line description):
[{HasTagOf Project}]
This resulted in a ClassNotFoundException looking for
org/ceryle/wiki/plugin/assertion/HasAssertedTagOfPlugin
I get a similar error (looking for some assertion class) if I use the 'Tag'
call.
Looks like this is dependent on your assertion framework?
--
Bobman
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Murray Altheim <mu...@altheim.com>
wrote:
> Alexey Kakunin wrote:
>
> > Murray
> > Seems you did a great job - we just planned to implement oun tagging
> > in our EmForge (http://www.emforge.org) project - but seems it will
> > be better to reuse it.
> >
> [...]
>
> Alexey,
>
> Turns out I'd already created an ant target for the TagPlugin and
> posted a distribution on 2007-08-03, but I've just updated that
> with a new distribution using the current code. For details check
> out the WikiTags page at:
>
> http://altheim.4java.ca/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WikiTags
>
> I believe the current code should be functional as a standalone
> (i.e., I've briefly checked dependencies) but would appreciate
> feedback if this doesn't work. There is a link to detailed
> installation instructions (including icons and stylesheet) on the
> above page.
>
> Feedback welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Murray
>
>
> --
>
>
> ...........................................................................
> Murray Altheim <murray07 at altheim.com> === =
> =
> http://www.altheim.com/murray/ = =
> ===
> SGML Grease Monkey, Banjo Player, Wantanabe Zen Monk = = =
> =
>
> Boundless wind and moon - the eye within eyes,
> Inexhaustible heaven and earth - the light beyond light,
> The willow dark, the flower bright - ten thousand houses,
> Knock at any door - there's one who will respond.
> -- The Blue Cliff Record
>