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Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just get rid of it
entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose beyond whatever
historical value we want to assign it - and since this does NOT contain the
presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't see that there's much
historical value, especially not for the things like Google Maps embeds for
directions and public transit route planning, since nobody can plan to
attend an event in the past.
If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations, then I'd
suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather than having
the two separate sections.
Re: Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
Posted by ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>.
done
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 8:23 AM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So Events have been moved and collapsed with Presentations into
> https://trafficcontrol.apache.org/events/ - if that doesn't work for
> people I will happily make changes, or move it to the GH wiki if we really
> think it belongs there. If nobody says anything by the end of tomorrow I'm
> gonna make the current cwiki pages into links to their respective events.
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 11:16 AM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like mostly people are fine with getting rid of it, but
>> presentations should stick around.
>>
>> Regarding that: I was thinking that maybe the trafficcontrol.apache.org
>> website would be a better place for presentations than the wiki. Thoughts?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:56 AM Eric Friedrich <fr...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> There are some slides on these pages that we should hang on to:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Fall+2016+Meetup
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Feb+2016+Traffic+Control+Meetup
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Spring+2017
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I'm good with removal
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:08 PM Jeremy Mitchell <mi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > +1 not sure a list of past events has much value.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 4:11 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Sure. I didn't see any on the one or two I checked out to understand
>>> what
>>> > > the section is about. Those should go with all the other
>>> presentations
>>> > IMO
>>> > > - however that winds up getting grouped.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:51 PM Zach Hoffman <zr...@apache.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > A few Event subpages include slides for presentations given. The
>>> > slides,
>>> > > as
>>> > > > well as the corresponding schedule of presentations, should be
>>> > preserved.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > -Zach
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just
>>> get rid
>>> > > of
>>> > > > > it entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose
>>> beyond
>>> > > > > whatever historical value we want to assign it - and since this
>>> does
>>> > > NOT
>>> > > > > contain the presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't
>>> see
>>> > that
>>> > > > > there's much historical value, especially not for the things like
>>> > > Google
>>> > > > > Maps embeds for directions and public transit route planning,
>>> since
>>> > > > nobody
>>> > > > > can plan to attend an event in the past.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations,
>>> then
>>> > > I'd
>>> > > > > suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather
>>> than
>>> > > having
>>> > > > > the two separate sections.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
Re: Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
Posted by ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>.
So Events have been moved and collapsed with Presentations into
https://trafficcontrol.apache.org/events/ - if that doesn't work for people
I will happily make changes, or move it to the GH wiki if we really think
it belongs there. If nobody says anything by the end of tomorrow I'm gonna
make the current cwiki pages into links to their respective events.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 11:16 AM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds like mostly people are fine with getting rid of it, but
> presentations should stick around.
>
> Regarding that: I was thinking that maybe the trafficcontrol.apache.org
> website would be a better place for presentations than the wiki. Thoughts?
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:56 AM Eric Friedrich <fr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> There are some slides on these pages that we should hang on to:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Fall+2016+Meetup
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Feb+2016+Traffic+Control+Meetup
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Spring+2017
>>
>> Otherwise, I'm good with removal
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:08 PM Jeremy Mitchell <mi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > +1 not sure a list of past events has much value.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 4:11 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sure. I didn't see any on the one or two I checked out to understand
>> what
>> > > the section is about. Those should go with all the other presentations
>> > IMO
>> > > - however that winds up getting grouped.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:51 PM Zach Hoffman <zr...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > A few Event subpages include slides for presentations given. The
>> > slides,
>> > > as
>> > > > well as the corresponding schedule of presentations, should be
>> > preserved.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Zach
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just get
>> rid
>> > > of
>> > > > > it entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose
>> beyond
>> > > > > whatever historical value we want to assign it - and since this
>> does
>> > > NOT
>> > > > > contain the presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't see
>> > that
>> > > > > there's much historical value, especially not for the things like
>> > > Google
>> > > > > Maps embeds for directions and public transit route planning,
>> since
>> > > > nobody
>> > > > > can plan to attend an event in the past.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations,
>> then
>> > > I'd
>> > > > > suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather than
>> > > having
>> > > > > the two separate sections.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
Re: Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
Posted by ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>.
Sounds like mostly people are fine with getting rid of it, but
presentations should stick around.
Regarding that: I was thinking that maybe the trafficcontrol.apache.org
website would be a better place for presentations than the wiki. Thoughts?
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:56 AM Eric Friedrich <fr...@apache.org> wrote:
> There are some slides on these pages that we should hang on to:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Fall+2016+Meetup
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Feb+2016+Traffic+Control+Meetup
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Spring+2017
>
> Otherwise, I'm good with removal
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:08 PM Jeremy Mitchell <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 not sure a list of past events has much value.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 4:11 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sure. I didn't see any on the one or two I checked out to understand
> what
> > > the section is about. Those should go with all the other presentations
> > IMO
> > > - however that winds up getting grouped.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:51 PM Zach Hoffman <zr...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > A few Event subpages include slides for presentations given. The
> > slides,
> > > as
> > > > well as the corresponding schedule of presentations, should be
> > preserved.
> > > >
> > > > -Zach
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
> > > > >
> > > > > Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just get
> rid
> > > of
> > > > > it entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose
> beyond
> > > > > whatever historical value we want to assign it - and since this
> does
> > > NOT
> > > > > contain the presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't see
> > that
> > > > > there's much historical value, especially not for the things like
> > > Google
> > > > > Maps embeds for directions and public transit route planning, since
> > > > nobody
> > > > > can plan to attend an event in the past.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations,
> then
> > > I'd
> > > > > suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather than
> > > having
> > > > > the two separate sections.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
Posted by Eric Friedrich <fr...@apache.org>.
There are some slides on these pages that we should hang on to:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Fall+2016+Meetup
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Feb+2016+Traffic+Control+Meetup
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Spring+2017
Otherwise, I'm good with removal
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:08 PM Jeremy Mitchell <mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> +1 not sure a list of past events has much value.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 4:11 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sure. I didn't see any on the one or two I checked out to understand what
> > the section is about. Those should go with all the other presentations
> IMO
> > - however that winds up getting grouped.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:51 PM Zach Hoffman <zr...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > A few Event subpages include slides for presentations given. The
> slides,
> > as
> > > well as the corresponding schedule of presentations, should be
> preserved.
> > >
> > > -Zach
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
> > > >
> > > > Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just get rid
> > of
> > > > it entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose beyond
> > > > whatever historical value we want to assign it - and since this does
> > NOT
> > > > contain the presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't see
> that
> > > > there's much historical value, especially not for the things like
> > Google
> > > > Maps embeds for directions and public transit route planning, since
> > > nobody
> > > > can plan to attend an event in the past.
> > > >
> > > > If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations, then
> > I'd
> > > > suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather than
> > having
> > > > the two separate sections.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
Posted by Jeremy Mitchell <mi...@gmail.com>.
+1 not sure a list of past events has much value.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 4:11 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure. I didn't see any on the one or two I checked out to understand what
> the section is about. Those should go with all the other presentations IMO
> - however that winds up getting grouped.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:51 PM Zach Hoffman <zr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > A few Event subpages include slides for presentations given. The slides,
> as
> > well as the corresponding schedule of presentations, should be preserved.
> >
> > -Zach
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
> > >
> > > Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just get rid
> of
> > > it entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose beyond
> > > whatever historical value we want to assign it - and since this does
> NOT
> > > contain the presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't see that
> > > there's much historical value, especially not for the things like
> Google
> > > Maps embeds for directions and public transit route planning, since
> > nobody
> > > can plan to attend an event in the past.
> > >
> > > If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations, then
> I'd
> > > suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather than
> having
> > > the two separate sections.
> > >
> >
>
Re: Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
Posted by ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com>.
Sure. I didn't see any on the one or two I checked out to understand what
the section is about. Those should go with all the other presentations IMO
- however that winds up getting grouped.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:51 PM Zach Hoffman <zr...@apache.org> wrote:
> A few Event subpages include slides for presentations given. The slides, as
> well as the corresponding schedule of presentations, should be preserved.
>
> -Zach
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
> >
> > Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just get rid of
> > it entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose beyond
> > whatever historical value we want to assign it - and since this does NOT
> > contain the presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't see that
> > there's much historical value, especially not for the things like Google
> > Maps embeds for directions and public transit route planning, since
> nobody
> > can plan to attend an event in the past.
> >
> > If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations, then I'd
> > suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather than having
> > the two separate sections.
> >
>
Re: Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
Posted by Zach Hoffman <zr...@apache.org>.
A few Event subpages include slides for presentations given. The slides, as
well as the corresponding schedule of presentations, should be preserved.
-Zach
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
>
> Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just get rid of
> it entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose beyond
> whatever historical value we want to assign it - and since this does NOT
> contain the presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't see that
> there's much historical value, especially not for the things like Google
> Maps embeds for directions and public transit route planning, since nobody
> can plan to attend an event in the past.
>
> If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations, then I'd
> suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather than having
> the two separate sections.
>
Re: Proposal: Remove "Events" wiki section
Posted by Zach Hoffman <zr...@apache.org>.
A few Event subpages include slides for presentations given. The slides, as
well as the corresponding schedule of presentations, should be preserved.
-Zach
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 3:03 PM ocket 8888 <oc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TC/Events
>
> Rather than transfer that over to the GH wiki, I vote we just get rid of
> it entirely. It looks like the information here has no purpose beyond
> whatever historical value we want to assign it - and since this does NOT
> contain the presentations that I know we want to keep, I don't see that
> there's much historical value, especially not for the things like Google
> Maps embeds for directions and public transit route planning, since nobody
> can plan to attend an event in the past.
>
> If we want to keep things like schedules, dates, and locations, then I'd
> suggest we use those to group the saved presentations, rather than having
> the two separate sections.
>