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[Bug 64502] New: Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64502
Bug ID: 64502
Summary: Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core
Product: Apache httpd-2
Version: 2.5-HEAD
Hardware: PC
OS: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: mod_authn_core
Assignee: bugs@httpd.apache.org
Reporter: rbowen@apache.org
Target Milestone: ---
The cultural significant of blacklists is based in racial descrimination. There
are no reasons to use these over their alternatives
As per https://lethargy.org/~jesus/writes/a-guide-to-nomenclature-selection/
and numerous other great resources, I request that we rename the
'blacklisted-ips' keyword to 'rejected-ips' or 'denied-ips'.
While this may seem merely symbolic to some, this kind of symbolic gesture
shows that we care about our community members more than we care about
particular historical keywords in our code.
Recommend that we add 'denied-ips' as an alias, and deprecate
'blacklisted-ips', and update the documentation accordingly, then remove the
deprecated keyword in a future release.
Thanks.
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[Bug 64502] Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64502
--- Comment #4 from Stefan Eissing <st...@eissing.org> ---
I was curious, because for me personally there is no racial connotation in a
"black list". I do not think of "black" people when I hear the term. But I can
imagine a person of dark skin being uncomfortable about the term.
If a term is offensive to people, we should find an alternative. It's not a
mistake of people being offended.
That being said, maybe people would not feel so bad about the term if they were
not black listed because of their skin colour in the first place. That seems to
get some deserved attention at the moment.
- Stefan
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[Bug 64502] Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64502
Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Resolution|--- |INVALID
Status|NEW |RESOLVED
--- Comment #1 from Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> ---
I appear to have misunderstood the documentation. This is not even a code
change, but is just a documentation change.
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[Bug 64502] Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64502
--- Comment #3 from Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> ---
I would encourage you to read the article I linked to -
https://lethargy.org/~jesus/writes/a-guide-to-nomenclature-selection/
Current usage is more relevant than ancient origins. Language evolves.
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[Bug 64502] Rename 'blacklisted-ips' keyword in mod_authz_core
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64502
--- Comment #2 from Stefan Eissing <st...@eissing.org> ---
"The cultural significant of blacklists is based in racial descrimination."
Do you have a source for that? I tried to find the origin of the term (the
practise goes back to the Roman Empire and further), but could not find any
ethnic origin.
Would be useful to know. Thanks.
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