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Japanese language support in Slide/Webfolders?
Fellow Slide-rs,
If there is anyone on the list who has had experience getting another
character set (eg. japanese, german, chinese) working with Slide and
Webfolders then I was hoping that you might be able to share with us some
insight on the problems you met and workarounds you had to apply to get it
working. I'm getting to the stage where I will need to take Japanese
language support into consideration and any help on the limitations of
either Slide or Webfolders ,and the configuration required for Slide, would
be invaluable. I'm using Slide with Tomcat 4.1.30.
Thanks,
Warwick
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Re: Japanese language support in Slide/Webfolders?
Posted by Jacob Lund <jl...@qualiware.net>.
I am using slide with Danish characters in an UTF-8 setup!
With respect to WebFolders then have a look at:
http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/webfolder-client-list.html
I have a windows XP with office 2003 and most of the problems seems to be
solved.
With tomcat 4.1 I had to use the coyoteconnector and add
useURIValidationHack="false".
With a store supporting utf-8 I am now able to use my special Danish
characters in filenames.
A small note though - I have not tested with TC4.1 lately.
/jacob
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Subject: Japanese language support in Slide/Webfolders?
>
> Fellow Slide-rs,
>
> If there is anyone on the list who has had experience getting another
> character set (eg. japanese, german, chinese) working with Slide and
> Webfolders then I was hoping that you might be able to share with us some
> insight on the problems you met and workarounds you had to apply to get it
> working. I'm getting to the stage where I will need to take Japanese
> language support into consideration and any help on the limitations of
> either Slide or Webfolders ,and the configuration required for Slide,
> would
> be invaluable. I'm using Slide with Tomcat 4.1.30.
>
> Thanks,
> Warwick
>
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Re: Japanese language support in Slide/Webfolders?
Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@zeigermann.de>.
Great :)
Oliver
Carlos Villegas schrieb:
> I'll consider it. As I said we need still need to merge CVS HEAD with
> our tree and retest the whole thing. If we're lucky there are only a few
> conflicts to resolve. Submitting the patches certainly save us from
> merging again next time so that's an incentive.
>
> Carlos
>
> James Mason wrote:
>
>>Carlos,
>>
>>Any chance you could submit patches for the changes you've made? I think
>>they would be very valuable for the community.
>>
>>-James
>>
>>On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 17:39, Carlos Villegas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>We have a version of Slide based on 2.0 with support for Japanese and
>>>Webfolders.
>>>
>>>There are several problems with WebFolders and japanese. First of all
>>>some versions of the webfolder dll are inconsistent about URL escaping.
>>>Sometimes it doesn't even escape, it sents raw SJIS to the server. If
>>>you want to support all Windows versions, you basically have to
>>>autodetect the URL escaping and encoding in the server. It could be
>>>UTF-8 or Shift_JIS, properly URL escaped or not. Newer versions of
>>>webfolders at least fixed the URL escaping issue, and now it's always
>>>properly escaped, but the encoding it's still a mistery to us. The
>>>server is always responding in UTF-8 but webfolders "sometimes" answers
>>>back in Shift_JIS! Setting the server to use Shift_JIS didn't work
>>>either because webfolders then sends shift_jis encoded xml but without
>>>the XML encoding attribute and the parser chokes in the server. If it
>>>were not Microsoft you'd said it's unbelievable they're sending invalid
>>>XML. Even with all these precautions, I think we still have places where
>>>we have to read the request stream and fix the encoding before giving it
>>>to the xml parser.
>>>
>>>The first thing to do on the server side is to make sure that Slide
>>>always responds in UTF-8, for example. In many places, Slide just uses
>>>the default encoding, which is usually latin-1 or SJIS if running on
>>>japanese OS. Then the places to do this autodetection magic is basically
>>>on org.apache.slide.webdav.util.WebdavUtils and
>>>org.apache.slide.webdav.method.AbstractWebdavMethod, but other methods
>>>also have to be touched. Tomcat also have to be setup correctly for
>>>UTF-8. If you're using the Slide client, it also have to be patched in a
>>>few places to make sure it always talks UTF-8.
>>>If you're using a fixed version of Windows maybe things are easier, also
>>>Slide 2.1b may need less changes, we still need to upgrade to 2.1b but
>>>this means retesting all the japanese support, so we're waiting for the
>>>release.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps and it doesn't scare you!
>>>
>>>Carlos
>>>
>>>Warwick Burrows wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fellow Slide-rs,
>>>>
>>>>If there is anyone on the list who has had experience getting another
>>>>character set (eg. japanese, german, chinese) working with Slide and
>>>>Webfolders then I was hoping that you might be able to share with us some
>>>>insight on the problems you met and workarounds you had to apply to get it
>>>>working. I'm getting to the stage where I will need to take Japanese
>>>>language support into consideration and any help on the limitations of
>>>>either Slide or Webfolders ,and the configuration required for Slide, would
>>>>be invaluable. I'm using Slide with Tomcat 4.1.30.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Warwick
>>>>
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Re: Japanese language support in Slide/Webfolders?
Posted by Carlos Villegas <ca...@uniscope.jp>.
I'll consider it. As I said we need still need to merge CVS HEAD with
our tree and retest the whole thing. If we're lucky there are only a few
conflicts to resolve. Submitting the patches certainly save us from
merging again next time so that's an incentive.
Carlos
James Mason wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> Any chance you could submit patches for the changes you've made? I think
> they would be very valuable for the community.
>
> -James
>
> On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 17:39, Carlos Villegas wrote:
>
>>We have a version of Slide based on 2.0 with support for Japanese and
>>Webfolders.
>>
>>There are several problems with WebFolders and japanese. First of all
>>some versions of the webfolder dll are inconsistent about URL escaping.
>>Sometimes it doesn't even escape, it sents raw SJIS to the server. If
>>you want to support all Windows versions, you basically have to
>>autodetect the URL escaping and encoding in the server. It could be
>>UTF-8 or Shift_JIS, properly URL escaped or not. Newer versions of
>>webfolders at least fixed the URL escaping issue, and now it's always
>>properly escaped, but the encoding it's still a mistery to us. The
>>server is always responding in UTF-8 but webfolders "sometimes" answers
>>back in Shift_JIS! Setting the server to use Shift_JIS didn't work
>>either because webfolders then sends shift_jis encoded xml but without
>>the XML encoding attribute and the parser chokes in the server. If it
>>were not Microsoft you'd said it's unbelievable they're sending invalid
>>XML. Even with all these precautions, I think we still have places where
>>we have to read the request stream and fix the encoding before giving it
>>to the xml parser.
>>
>>The first thing to do on the server side is to make sure that Slide
>>always responds in UTF-8, for example. In many places, Slide just uses
>>the default encoding, which is usually latin-1 or SJIS if running on
>>japanese OS. Then the places to do this autodetection magic is basically
>>on org.apache.slide.webdav.util.WebdavUtils and
>>org.apache.slide.webdav.method.AbstractWebdavMethod, but other methods
>>also have to be touched. Tomcat also have to be setup correctly for
>>UTF-8. If you're using the Slide client, it also have to be patched in a
>>few places to make sure it always talks UTF-8.
>>If you're using a fixed version of Windows maybe things are easier, also
>>Slide 2.1b may need less changes, we still need to upgrade to 2.1b but
>>this means retesting all the japanese support, so we're waiting for the
>>release.
>>
>>Hope this helps and it doesn't scare you!
>>
>>Carlos
>>
>>Warwick Burrows wrote:
>>
>>>Fellow Slide-rs,
>>>
>>>If there is anyone on the list who has had experience getting another
>>>character set (eg. japanese, german, chinese) working with Slide and
>>>Webfolders then I was hoping that you might be able to share with us some
>>>insight on the problems you met and workarounds you had to apply to get it
>>>working. I'm getting to the stage where I will need to take Japanese
>>>language support into consideration and any help on the limitations of
>>>either Slide or Webfolders ,and the configuration required for Slide, would
>>>be invaluable. I'm using Slide with Tomcat 4.1.30.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Warwick
>>>
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Re: Japanese language support in Slide/Webfolders?
Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@zeigermann.de>.
+1
Oliver
James Mason schrieb:
> Carlos,
>
> Any chance you could submit patches for the changes you've made? I think
> they would be very valuable for the community.
>
> -James
>
> On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 17:39, Carlos Villegas wrote:
>
>>We have a version of Slide based on 2.0 with support for Japanese and
>>Webfolders.
>>
>>There are several problems with WebFolders and japanese. First of all
>>some versions of the webfolder dll are inconsistent about URL escaping.
>>Sometimes it doesn't even escape, it sents raw SJIS to the server. If
>>you want to support all Windows versions, you basically have to
>>autodetect the URL escaping and encoding in the server. It could be
>>UTF-8 or Shift_JIS, properly URL escaped or not. Newer versions of
>>webfolders at least fixed the URL escaping issue, and now it's always
>>properly escaped, but the encoding it's still a mistery to us. The
>>server is always responding in UTF-8 but webfolders "sometimes" answers
>>back in Shift_JIS! Setting the server to use Shift_JIS didn't work
>>either because webfolders then sends shift_jis encoded xml but without
>>the XML encoding attribute and the parser chokes in the server. If it
>>were not Microsoft you'd said it's unbelievable they're sending invalid
>>XML. Even with all these precautions, I think we still have places where
>>we have to read the request stream and fix the encoding before giving it
>>to the xml parser.
>>
>>The first thing to do on the server side is to make sure that Slide
>>always responds in UTF-8, for example. In many places, Slide just uses
>>the default encoding, which is usually latin-1 or SJIS if running on
>>japanese OS. Then the places to do this autodetection magic is basically
>>on org.apache.slide.webdav.util.WebdavUtils and
>>org.apache.slide.webdav.method.AbstractWebdavMethod, but other methods
>>also have to be touched. Tomcat also have to be setup correctly for
>>UTF-8. If you're using the Slide client, it also have to be patched in a
>>few places to make sure it always talks UTF-8.
>>If you're using a fixed version of Windows maybe things are easier, also
>>Slide 2.1b may need less changes, we still need to upgrade to 2.1b but
>>this means retesting all the japanese support, so we're waiting for the
>>release.
>>
>>Hope this helps and it doesn't scare you!
>>
>>Carlos
>>
>>Warwick Burrows wrote:
>>
>>>Fellow Slide-rs,
>>>
>>>If there is anyone on the list who has had experience getting another
>>>character set (eg. japanese, german, chinese) working with Slide and
>>>Webfolders then I was hoping that you might be able to share with us some
>>>insight on the problems you met and workarounds you had to apply to get it
>>>working. I'm getting to the stage where I will need to take Japanese
>>>language support into consideration and any help on the limitations of
>>>either Slide or Webfolders ,and the configuration required for Slide, would
>>>be invaluable. I'm using Slide with Tomcat 4.1.30.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Warwick
>>>
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Re: Japanese language support in Slide/Webfolders?
Posted by James Mason <ma...@apache.org>.
Carlos,
Any chance you could submit patches for the changes you've made? I think
they would be very valuable for the community.
-James
On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 17:39, Carlos Villegas wrote:
> We have a version of Slide based on 2.0 with support for Japanese and
> Webfolders.
>
> There are several problems with WebFolders and japanese. First of all
> some versions of the webfolder dll are inconsistent about URL escaping.
> Sometimes it doesn't even escape, it sents raw SJIS to the server. If
> you want to support all Windows versions, you basically have to
> autodetect the URL escaping and encoding in the server. It could be
> UTF-8 or Shift_JIS, properly URL escaped or not. Newer versions of
> webfolders at least fixed the URL escaping issue, and now it's always
> properly escaped, but the encoding it's still a mistery to us. The
> server is always responding in UTF-8 but webfolders "sometimes" answers
> back in Shift_JIS! Setting the server to use Shift_JIS didn't work
> either because webfolders then sends shift_jis encoded xml but without
> the XML encoding attribute and the parser chokes in the server. If it
> were not Microsoft you'd said it's unbelievable they're sending invalid
> XML. Even with all these precautions, I think we still have places where
> we have to read the request stream and fix the encoding before giving it
> to the xml parser.
>
> The first thing to do on the server side is to make sure that Slide
> always responds in UTF-8, for example. In many places, Slide just uses
> the default encoding, which is usually latin-1 or SJIS if running on
> japanese OS. Then the places to do this autodetection magic is basically
> on org.apache.slide.webdav.util.WebdavUtils and
> org.apache.slide.webdav.method.AbstractWebdavMethod, but other methods
> also have to be touched. Tomcat also have to be setup correctly for
> UTF-8. If you're using the Slide client, it also have to be patched in a
> few places to make sure it always talks UTF-8.
> If you're using a fixed version of Windows maybe things are easier, also
> Slide 2.1b may need less changes, we still need to upgrade to 2.1b but
> this means retesting all the japanese support, so we're waiting for the
> release.
>
> Hope this helps and it doesn't scare you!
>
> Carlos
>
> Warwick Burrows wrote:
> > Fellow Slide-rs,
> >
> > If there is anyone on the list who has had experience getting another
> > character set (eg. japanese, german, chinese) working with Slide and
> > Webfolders then I was hoping that you might be able to share with us some
> > insight on the problems you met and workarounds you had to apply to get it
> > working. I'm getting to the stage where I will need to take Japanese
> > language support into consideration and any help on the limitations of
> > either Slide or Webfolders ,and the configuration required for Slide, would
> > be invaluable. I'm using Slide with Tomcat 4.1.30.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Warwick
> >
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Re: Japanese language support in Slide/Webfolders?
Posted by Carlos Villegas <ca...@uniscope.jp>.
We have a version of Slide based on 2.0 with support for Japanese and
Webfolders.
There are several problems with WebFolders and japanese. First of all
some versions of the webfolder dll are inconsistent about URL escaping.
Sometimes it doesn't even escape, it sents raw SJIS to the server. If
you want to support all Windows versions, you basically have to
autodetect the URL escaping and encoding in the server. It could be
UTF-8 or Shift_JIS, properly URL escaped or not. Newer versions of
webfolders at least fixed the URL escaping issue, and now it's always
properly escaped, but the encoding it's still a mistery to us. The
server is always responding in UTF-8 but webfolders "sometimes" answers
back in Shift_JIS! Setting the server to use Shift_JIS didn't work
either because webfolders then sends shift_jis encoded xml but without
the XML encoding attribute and the parser chokes in the server. If it
were not Microsoft you'd said it's unbelievable they're sending invalid
XML. Even with all these precautions, I think we still have places where
we have to read the request stream and fix the encoding before giving it
to the xml parser.
The first thing to do on the server side is to make sure that Slide
always responds in UTF-8, for example. In many places, Slide just uses
the default encoding, which is usually latin-1 or SJIS if running on
japanese OS. Then the places to do this autodetection magic is basically
on org.apache.slide.webdav.util.WebdavUtils and
org.apache.slide.webdav.method.AbstractWebdavMethod, but other methods
also have to be touched. Tomcat also have to be setup correctly for
UTF-8. If you're using the Slide client, it also have to be patched in a
few places to make sure it always talks UTF-8.
If you're using a fixed version of Windows maybe things are easier, also
Slide 2.1b may need less changes, we still need to upgrade to 2.1b but
this means retesting all the japanese support, so we're waiting for the
release.
Hope this helps and it doesn't scare you!
Carlos
Warwick Burrows wrote:
> Fellow Slide-rs,
>
> If there is anyone on the list who has had experience getting another
> character set (eg. japanese, german, chinese) working with Slide and
> Webfolders then I was hoping that you might be able to share with us some
> insight on the problems you met and workarounds you had to apply to get it
> working. I'm getting to the stage where I will need to take Japanese
> language support into consideration and any help on the limitations of
> either Slide or Webfolders ,and the configuration required for Slide, would
> be invaluable. I'm using Slide with Tomcat 4.1.30.
>
> Thanks,
> Warwick
>
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