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Posted to dev@taverna.apache.org by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> on 2015/06/11 18:10:06 UTC
Taverna Server docker images
Hi,
We have some docker images here for Taverna Server
https://registry.hub.docker.com/search?q=taverna&searchfield=
Do you know who made them, how etc? Was it Rob?
They seem to not have a corresponding Dockerfile, not built from
Github, and also use their own packaging of JDK and Tomcat for some
reason.
Perhaps a quick and small Dockerfile to use a regular Tomcat Docker as
"FROM" image, and install as ROOT.war could be a useful exercise.
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
FW: Taverna Server docker images
Posted by "Pierce, Marlon" <ma...@iu.edu>.
Other docker related stuff going on in the Taverna list. It may be useful to look at what they have done.
Marlon
________________________________________
From: Robert Haines [robert.haines@manchester.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:21 PM
To: dev@taverna.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Taverna Server docker images
PS. If you want to be added to the Taverna Organization in the docker
hub send me your username and I'll add you.
Rob
On 11/06/2015 19:16, Robert Haines wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> We have some docker images here for Taverna Server
>>
>> https://registry.hub.docker.com/search?q=taverna&searchfield=
>>
>>
>> Do you know who made them, how etc? Was it Rob?
>
> Yes it was me.
>
>> They seem to not have a corresponding Dockerfile, not built from
>> Github, and also use their own packaging of JDK and Tomcat for some
>> reason.
>
> All Dockerfiles, etc are here: https://github.com/taverna/taverna-docker
>
> They use their own build of the JDK, Tomcat, etc because at the time
> there were no sensible alternatives. I.e. There were no headless JDK
> images, and the tomcats all had a hundred other dependencies installed
> (X etc) that made the resultant images a couple of GB in size.
>
> They're not set up to build automatically from GitHub I think because I
> couldn't find a way to be able to then have multiple Taverna Server
> versions available from the same place. This seemed important at the
> time for testing, etc but may not be anymore - or things may have
> changed with the hub.
>
>> Perhaps a quick and small Dockerfile to use a regular Tomcat Docker as
>> "FROM" image, and install as ROOT.war could be a useful exercise.
>
> If there now exists a decent regular Tomcat Docker, with a decent
> minimal JDK, it would be much better to use it than roll our own,
> certainly.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
--
Robert Haines
Research Software Engineering Manager, IT Services
Honorary Lecturer, School of Computer Science
University of Manchester
Re: Taverna Server docker images
Posted by Robert Haines <ro...@manchester.ac.uk>.
> Adding me (stain) and (fbacall) to the Taverna Docker Hub organization
> would be cool - Finn has just added a docker image for the Taverna
> Player Portal as well that could be added there.
OK done. I added you both to the "Owners" group so you can add more
people if needs be.
> I guess we better be careful to not brand them as Apache as Taverna
> Server 2.5.4 is pre-Apache, and the Taverna Player Portal is not (yet)
> part of Apache Taverna .. so not sure about the legal route here..
> mentors?
>
> I'll try to update the dockerfiles and add them as automatic repos.
> Now of course there are two official Apache Tomcat images.. it's still
> not an easy choice!
>
> You can have one docker image version per branch/tag, so that would be
> the easiest way to have multiple versions.
I found that to be a bit clunky myself but they may have improved things
since I did it.
> Finn and I tested taverna/server, and wondered why you expose them as
> http://localhost:8080/taverna-2.5.4 - given that each Docker image
> would just run one single Taverna Server, why not install it as
> ROOT.war?
If you install it as ROOT.war then you may limit what others can do with
your dockerfile if they want something else as the root app.
Rob
> On 11 June 2015 at 19:21, Robert Haines <ro...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>> PS. If you want to be added to the Taverna Organization in the docker hub
>> send me your username and I'll add you.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On 11/06/2015 19:16, Robert Haines wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>> We have some docker images here for Taverna Server
>>>>
>>>> https://registry.hub.docker.com/search?q=taverna&searchfield=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you know who made them, how etc? Was it Rob?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes it was me.
>>>
>>>> They seem to not have a corresponding Dockerfile, not built from
>>>> Github, and also use their own packaging of JDK and Tomcat for some
>>>> reason.
>>>
>>>
>>> All Dockerfiles, etc are here: https://github.com/taverna/taverna-docker
>>>
>>> They use their own build of the JDK, Tomcat, etc because at the time
>>> there were no sensible alternatives. I.e. There were no headless JDK
>>> images, and the tomcats all had a hundred other dependencies installed
>>> (X etc) that made the resultant images a couple of GB in size.
>>>
>>> They're not set up to build automatically from GitHub I think because I
>>> couldn't find a way to be able to then have multiple Taverna Server
>>> versions available from the same place. This seemed important at the
>>> time for testing, etc but may not be anymore - or things may have
>>> changed with the hub.
>>>
>>>> Perhaps a quick and small Dockerfile to use a regular Tomcat Docker as
>>>> "FROM" image, and install as ROOT.war could be a useful exercise.
>>>
>>>
>>> If there now exists a decent regular Tomcat Docker, with a decent
>>> minimal JDK, it would be much better to use it than roll our own,
>>> certainly.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rob
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robert Haines
>> Research Software Engineering Manager, IT Services
>> Honorary Lecturer, School of Computer Science
>> University of Manchester
>
>
>
--
Robert Haines
Research Software Engineering Manager, IT Services
Honorary Lecturer, School of Computer Science
University of Manchester
Re: Taverna Server docker images
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
Suggested new Taverna Server docker image:
https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/stain/taverna-server/
* 2.5.4 war
* automatic build repository
* based on official tomcat base image (auto-rebuilds on upstream updates)
* removed tomcat admin Webapps
* Taverna Server is at /, no hardcoded version in URL anymore
* logs are just at docker logs
On 12 Jun 2015 15:02, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks for the details!
>
>
> Adding me (stain) and (fbacall) to the Taverna Docker Hub organization
> would be cool - Finn has just added a docker image for the Taverna
> Player Portal as well that could be added there.
>
> I guess we better be careful to not brand them as Apache as Taverna
> Server 2.5.4 is pre-Apache, and the Taverna Player Portal is not (yet)
> part of Apache Taverna .. so not sure about the legal route here..
> mentors?
>
>
>
> I'll try to update the dockerfiles and add them as automatic repos.
> Now of course there are two official Apache Tomcat images.. it's still
> not an easy choice!
>
> You can have one docker image version per branch/tag, so that would be
> the easiest way to have multiple versions.
>
> Finn and I tested taverna/server, and wondered why you expose them as
> http://localhost:8080/taverna-2.5.4 - given that each Docker image
> would just run one single Taverna Server, why not install it as
> ROOT.war?
>
> On 11 June 2015 at 19:21, Robert Haines <ro...@manchester.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> > PS. If you want to be added to the Taverna Organization in the docker hub
> > send me your username and I'll add you.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On 11/06/2015 19:16, Robert Haines wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>> We have some docker images here for Taverna Server
> >>>
> >>> https://registry.hub.docker.com/search?q=taverna&searchfield=
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do you know who made them, how etc? Was it Rob?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes it was me.
> >>
> >>> They seem to not have a corresponding Dockerfile, not built from
> >>> Github, and also use their own packaging of JDK and Tomcat for some
> >>> reason.
> >>
> >>
> >> All Dockerfiles, etc are here:
> https://github.com/taverna/taverna-docker
> >>
> >> They use their own build of the JDK, Tomcat, etc because at the time
> >> there were no sensible alternatives. I.e. There were no headless JDK
> >> images, and the tomcats all had a hundred other dependencies installed
> >> (X etc) that made the resultant images a couple of GB in size.
> >>
> >> They're not set up to build automatically from GitHub I think because I
> >> couldn't find a way to be able to then have multiple Taverna Server
> >> versions available from the same place. This seemed important at the
> >> time for testing, etc but may not be anymore - or things may have
> >> changed with the hub.
> >>
> >>> Perhaps a quick and small Dockerfile to use a regular Tomcat Docker as
> >>> "FROM" image, and install as ROOT.war could be a useful exercise.
> >>
> >>
> >> If there now exists a decent regular Tomcat Docker, with a decent
> >> minimal JDK, it would be much better to use it than roll our own,
> >> certainly.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Rob
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Robert Haines
> > Research Software Engineering Manager, IT Services
> > Honorary Lecturer, School of Computer Science
> > University of Manchester
>
>
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes
> Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
Re: Taverna Server docker images
Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
Thanks for the details!
Adding me (stain) and (fbacall) to the Taverna Docker Hub organization
would be cool - Finn has just added a docker image for the Taverna
Player Portal as well that could be added there.
I guess we better be careful to not brand them as Apache as Taverna
Server 2.5.4 is pre-Apache, and the Taverna Player Portal is not (yet)
part of Apache Taverna .. so not sure about the legal route here..
mentors?
I'll try to update the dockerfiles and add them as automatic repos.
Now of course there are two official Apache Tomcat images.. it's still
not an easy choice!
You can have one docker image version per branch/tag, so that would be
the easiest way to have multiple versions.
Finn and I tested taverna/server, and wondered why you expose them as
http://localhost:8080/taverna-2.5.4 - given that each Docker image
would just run one single Taverna Server, why not install it as
ROOT.war?
On 11 June 2015 at 19:21, Robert Haines <ro...@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> PS. If you want to be added to the Taverna Organization in the docker hub
> send me your username and I'll add you.
>
> Rob
>
>
> On 11/06/2015 19:16, Robert Haines wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>> We have some docker images here for Taverna Server
>>>
>>> https://registry.hub.docker.com/search?q=taverna&searchfield=
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you know who made them, how etc? Was it Rob?
>>
>>
>> Yes it was me.
>>
>>> They seem to not have a corresponding Dockerfile, not built from
>>> Github, and also use their own packaging of JDK and Tomcat for some
>>> reason.
>>
>>
>> All Dockerfiles, etc are here: https://github.com/taverna/taverna-docker
>>
>> They use their own build of the JDK, Tomcat, etc because at the time
>> there were no sensible alternatives. I.e. There were no headless JDK
>> images, and the tomcats all had a hundred other dependencies installed
>> (X etc) that made the resultant images a couple of GB in size.
>>
>> They're not set up to build automatically from GitHub I think because I
>> couldn't find a way to be able to then have multiple Taverna Server
>> versions available from the same place. This seemed important at the
>> time for testing, etc but may not be anymore - or things may have
>> changed with the hub.
>>
>>> Perhaps a quick and small Dockerfile to use a regular Tomcat Docker as
>>> "FROM" image, and install as ROOT.war could be a useful exercise.
>>
>>
>> If there now exists a decent regular Tomcat Docker, with a decent
>> minimal JDK, it would be much better to use it than roll our own,
>> certainly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rob
>>
>
>
> --
> Robert Haines
> Research Software Engineering Manager, IT Services
> Honorary Lecturer, School of Computer Science
> University of Manchester
--
Stian Soiland-Reyes
Apache Taverna (incubating), Apache Commons RDF (incubating)
http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
Re: Taverna Server docker images
Posted by Robert Haines <ro...@manchester.ac.uk>.
PS. If you want to be added to the Taverna Organization in the docker
hub send me your username and I'll add you.
Rob
On 11/06/2015 19:16, Robert Haines wrote:
> Hello,
>
>> We have some docker images here for Taverna Server
>>
>> https://registry.hub.docker.com/search?q=taverna&searchfield=
>>
>>
>> Do you know who made them, how etc? Was it Rob?
>
> Yes it was me.
>
>> They seem to not have a corresponding Dockerfile, not built from
>> Github, and also use their own packaging of JDK and Tomcat for some
>> reason.
>
> All Dockerfiles, etc are here: https://github.com/taverna/taverna-docker
>
> They use their own build of the JDK, Tomcat, etc because at the time
> there were no sensible alternatives. I.e. There were no headless JDK
> images, and the tomcats all had a hundred other dependencies installed
> (X etc) that made the resultant images a couple of GB in size.
>
> They're not set up to build automatically from GitHub I think because I
> couldn't find a way to be able to then have multiple Taverna Server
> versions available from the same place. This seemed important at the
> time for testing, etc but may not be anymore - or things may have
> changed with the hub.
>
>> Perhaps a quick and small Dockerfile to use a regular Tomcat Docker as
>> "FROM" image, and install as ROOT.war could be a useful exercise.
>
> If there now exists a decent regular Tomcat Docker, with a decent
> minimal JDK, it would be much better to use it than roll our own,
> certainly.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
--
Robert Haines
Research Software Engineering Manager, IT Services
Honorary Lecturer, School of Computer Science
University of Manchester
Re: Taverna Server docker images
Posted by Robert Haines <ro...@manchester.ac.uk>.
Hello,
> We have some docker images here for Taverna Server
>
> https://registry.hub.docker.com/search?q=taverna&searchfield=
>
>
> Do you know who made them, how etc? Was it Rob?
Yes it was me.
> They seem to not have a corresponding Dockerfile, not built from
> Github, and also use their own packaging of JDK and Tomcat for some
> reason.
All Dockerfiles, etc are here: https://github.com/taverna/taverna-docker
They use their own build of the JDK, Tomcat, etc because at the time
there were no sensible alternatives. I.e. There were no headless JDK
images, and the tomcats all had a hundred other dependencies installed
(X etc) that made the resultant images a couple of GB in size.
They're not set up to build automatically from GitHub I think because I
couldn't find a way to be able to then have multiple Taverna Server
versions available from the same place. This seemed important at the
time for testing, etc but may not be anymore - or things may have
changed with the hub.
> Perhaps a quick and small Dockerfile to use a regular Tomcat Docker as
> "FROM" image, and install as ROOT.war could be a useful exercise.
If there now exists a decent regular Tomcat Docker, with a decent
minimal JDK, it would be much better to use it than roll our own, certainly.
Cheers,
Rob