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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com> on 2012/08/06 11:36:01 UTC

[RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Hi,

we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation

- print problem with multiple pages
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
confirmed Linux as well

- documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
on rev. 1369110)

Both problems seems to be regression issues and we analyzing the problems.

The latest available snapshot is based on 1369110 and should be used for
any further testing.

I will keep you informed.

Juergen

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:36:01 +0200
Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
> 
> - print problem with multiple pages
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
> confirmed Linux as well
> 
> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
> on rev. 1369110)
> 
> Both problems seems to be regression issues and we analyzing the problems.
> 
> The latest available snapshot is based on 1369110 and should be used for
> any further testing.
> 
> I will keep you informed.

An important point, Jürgen: rev. 1369110 can save and open passworded files.  It is legacy passworded files that do not open, as I understand it.

-- 
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,

On 06.08.2012 11:36, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
>
> - print problem with multiple pages
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
> confirmed Linux as well
>

I have found the root cause. My fix for issue 119189 causes this defect.
I have attached a patch to the issue and applied it on trunk and AOO34 branch.

Best regards, Oliver.

> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
> on rev. 1369110)
>
> Both problems seems to be regression issues and we analyzing the problems.
>
> The latest available snapshot is based on 1369110 and should be used for
> any further testing.
>
> I will keep you informed.
>
> Juergen
>

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Andre Fischer <aw...@gmail.com>.
On 06.08.2012 12:47, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 8/6/12 12:30 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:10:00 -0300
>> Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jürgen, *
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:36:01AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
>>>>
>>>> - print problem with multiple pages
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
>>>> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
>>>> confirmed Linux as well
>>>>
>>>> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
>>>> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
>>>> on rev. 1369110)
>>>
>>> I assume it's a 64 bits only issue (it happens that we support 64 bits
>>> only in Linux), I base my assumption in the following:
>>>
>>> - I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu 10.4 32 bits
>>> - I can reproduce it on
>>>    - Ubuntu 10.4  64 bits
>>>    - Fedora 17    64 bits
>>> - Josef reproduced it on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
>>> - Rory couldn't reproduce it on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bits
>>>
>>>
>>> This can't be a build bug: I made a full clean build (and just for
>>> testing once again, I rebuilt it just now, and is still reproducible).
>> I've just installed rev. 1369110 on a dual boot machine (Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit and Windows XP 32 bit). Working to the same printer, Ubuntu printed the four pages of the test file correctly, Windows printed the first page, followed by three blank pages (correct page count). I tried Windows printing to page 1-4, with same result.  But if I tell it to print in reverse order, it prints all pages!  It will also print any page selected by number.  Having done all that, it still will only print page 1 followed by three blank pages if I tell it to print "all".
>>
>> So Ubuntu 11:10 32bit passes
>> Windows XP 32 bit fails
>>
> build 9110 contains no fix for both described issues above.
>
> - the print problem is analyzed and already fixed, it will be in the
> next snapshot
>
> - the password problem is under investigation ...
> 64 bit only problem sounds reasonable but we have to check what's going
> wrong.

This really is a 64bit-only problem.  Due to a recent modification 
encryption and digest type are internally stored as 64bit values on 
64bit compilers.  When they are later converted into 32bit values the 
conversion fails silently and the verification of the password fails also.
With 32bit compilers the values are stored internally as 32bit values 
and the conversion is OK.

For details see issue 120385 
(https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120385).

Fixed in SVN revision 1369843 on branch AOO34.

-Andre


Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:47:39 +0200
Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 8/6/12 12:30 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:10:00 -0300
> > Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Jürgen, *
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:36:01AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
> >>>
> >>> - print problem with multiple pages
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
> >>> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
> >>> confirmed Linux as well
> >>>
> >>> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
> >>> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
> >>> on rev. 1369110)
> >>
> >>
> >> I assume it's a 64 bits only issue (it happens that we support 64 bits
> >> only in Linux), I base my assumption in the following:
> >>
> >> - I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu 10.4 32 bits
> >> - I can reproduce it on 
> >>   - Ubuntu 10.4  64 bits
> >>   - Fedora 17    64 bits
> >> - Josef reproduced it on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
> >> - Rory couldn't reproduce it on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bits
> >>
> >>
> >> This can't be a build bug: I made a full clean build (and just for
> >> testing once again, I rebuilt it just now, and is still reproducible).
> > 
> > I've just installed rev. 1369110 on a dual boot machine (Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit and Windows XP 32 bit). Working to the same printer, Ubuntu printed the four pages of the test file correctly, Windows printed the first page, followed by three blank pages (correct page count). I tried Windows printing to page 1-4, with same result.  But if I tell it to print in reverse order, it prints all pages!  It will also print any page selected by number.  Having done all that, it still will only print page 1 followed by three blank pages if I tell it to print "all".
> > 
> > So Ubuntu 11:10 32bit passes
> > Windows XP 32 bit fails
> > 
> 
> build 9110 contains no fix for both described issues above.
> 
> - the print problem is analyzed and already fixed, it will be in the
> next snapshot
> 
> - the password problem is under investigation ...
> 64 bit only problem sounds reasonable but we have to check what's going
> wrong.

As soon as next snapshot builds are available I'll check the 32bit Windows printing.
 
-- 
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,

On 06.08.2012 13:01, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Jürgen,
>
> Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:
>
> I can reproduce the password problem with my build on WinXP 32bit too.
>

I can't reproduce the password problem with AOO 3.4.1, dev. snapshot, r1369110 
on my WinXP 32bit VM environment which had AOO 3.4.0 installed.

Best regards, Oliver.

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Hi Jürgen,
>
> Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:
>
> I can reproduce the password problem with my build on WinXP 32bit too.
>

Are you seeing the problem with password-protected files that yo8u
created in the 32-bit build?  Or are they files that were created on
Linux 64 bit?

-Rob

> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>> On 8/6/12 12:30 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:10:00 -0300
>>> Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jürgen, *
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:36:01AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
>>>>>
>>>>> - print problem with multiple pages
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
>>>>> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
>>>>> confirmed Linux as well
>>>>>
>>>>> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
>>>>> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean
>>>>> builds
>>>>> on rev. 1369110)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I assume it's a 64 bits only issue (it happens that we support 64 bits
>>>> only in Linux), I base my assumption in the following:
>>>>
>>>> - I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu 10.4 32 bits
>>>> - I can reproduce it on
>>>>    - Ubuntu 10.4  64 bits
>>>>    - Fedora 17    64 bits
>>>> - Josef reproduced it on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
>>>> - Rory couldn't reproduce it on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bits
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This can't be a build bug: I made a full clean build (and just for
>>>> testing once again, I rebuilt it just now, and is still reproducible).
>>>
>>>
>>> I've just installed rev. 1369110 on a dual boot machine (Ubuntu 11.10 32
>>> bit and Windows XP 32 bit). Working to the same printer, Ubuntu printed the
>>> four pages of the test file correctly, Windows printed the first page,
>>> followed by three blank pages (correct page count). I tried Windows printing
>>> to page 1-4, with same result.  But if I tell it to print in reverse order,
>>> it prints all pages!  It will also print any page selected by number.
>>> Having done all that, it still will only print page 1 followed by three
>>> blank pages if I tell it to print "all".
>>>
>>> So Ubuntu 11:10 32bit passes
>>> Windows XP 32 bit fails
>>>
>>
>> build 9110 contains no fix for both described issues above.
>>
>> - the print problem is analyzed and already fixed, it will be in the
>> next snapshot
>>
>> - the password problem is under investigation ...
>> 64 bit only problem sounds reasonable but we have to check what's going
>> wrong.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Jürgen,

Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:

I can reproduce the password problem with my build on WinXP 32bit too.

Kind regards
Regina

> On 8/6/12 12:30 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:10:00 -0300
>> Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jürgen, *
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:36:01AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
>>>>
>>>> - print problem with multiple pages
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
>>>> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
>>>> confirmed Linux as well
>>>>
>>>> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
>>>> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
>>>> on rev. 1369110)
>>>
>>>
>>> I assume it's a 64 bits only issue (it happens that we support 64 bits
>>> only in Linux), I base my assumption in the following:
>>>
>>> - I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu 10.4 32 bits
>>> - I can reproduce it on
>>>    - Ubuntu 10.4  64 bits
>>>    - Fedora 17    64 bits
>>> - Josef reproduced it on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
>>> - Rory couldn't reproduce it on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bits
>>>
>>>
>>> This can't be a build bug: I made a full clean build (and just for
>>> testing once again, I rebuilt it just now, and is still reproducible).
>>
>> I've just installed rev. 1369110 on a dual boot machine (Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit and Windows XP 32 bit). Working to the same printer, Ubuntu printed the four pages of the test file correctly, Windows printed the first page, followed by three blank pages (correct page count). I tried Windows printing to page 1-4, with same result.  But if I tell it to print in reverse order, it prints all pages!  It will also print any page selected by number.  Having done all that, it still will only print page 1 followed by three blank pages if I tell it to print "all".
>>
>> So Ubuntu 11:10 32bit passes
>> Windows XP 32 bit fails
>>
>
> build 9110 contains no fix for both described issues above.
>
> - the print problem is analyzed and already fixed, it will be in the
> next snapshot
>
> - the password problem is under investigation ...
> 64 bit only problem sounds reasonable but we have to check what's going
> wrong.
>
> Juergen
>
>


Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 8/6/12 12:30 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:10:00 -0300
> Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jürgen, *
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:36:01AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
>>>
>>> - print problem with multiple pages
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
>>> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
>>> confirmed Linux as well
>>>
>>> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
>>> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
>>> on rev. 1369110)
>>
>>
>> I assume it's a 64 bits only issue (it happens that we support 64 bits
>> only in Linux), I base my assumption in the following:
>>
>> - I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu 10.4 32 bits
>> - I can reproduce it on 
>>   - Ubuntu 10.4  64 bits
>>   - Fedora 17    64 bits
>> - Josef reproduced it on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
>> - Rory couldn't reproduce it on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bits
>>
>>
>> This can't be a build bug: I made a full clean build (and just for
>> testing once again, I rebuilt it just now, and is still reproducible).
> 
> I've just installed rev. 1369110 on a dual boot machine (Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit and Windows XP 32 bit). Working to the same printer, Ubuntu printed the four pages of the test file correctly, Windows printed the first page, followed by three blank pages (correct page count). I tried Windows printing to page 1-4, with same result.  But if I tell it to print in reverse order, it prints all pages!  It will also print any page selected by number.  Having done all that, it still will only print page 1 followed by three blank pages if I tell it to print "all".
> 
> So Ubuntu 11:10 32bit passes
> Windows XP 32 bit fails
> 

build 9110 contains no fix for both described issues above.

- the print problem is analyzed and already fixed, it will be in the
next snapshot

- the password problem is under investigation ...
64 bit only problem sounds reasonable but we have to check what's going
wrong.

Juergen


Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 07:10:00 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Jürgen, *
> 
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:36:01AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
> > 
> > - print problem with multiple pages
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
> > I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
> > confirmed Linux as well
> > 
> > - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
> > problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
> > on rev. 1369110)
> 
> 
> I assume it's a 64 bits only issue (it happens that we support 64 bits
> only in Linux), I base my assumption in the following:
> 
> - I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu 10.4 32 bits
> - I can reproduce it on 
>   - Ubuntu 10.4  64 bits
>   - Fedora 17    64 bits
> - Josef reproduced it on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
> - Rory couldn't reproduce it on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bits
> 
> 
> This can't be a build bug: I made a full clean build (and just for
> testing once again, I rebuilt it just now, and is still reproducible).

I've just installed rev. 1369110 on a dual boot machine (Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit and Windows XP 32 bit). Working to the same printer, Ubuntu printed the four pages of the test file correctly, Windows printed the first page, followed by three blank pages (correct page count). I tried Windows printing to page 1-4, with same result.  But if I tell it to print in reverse order, it prints all pages!  It will also print any page selected by number.  Having done all that, it still will only print page 1 followed by three blank pages if I tell it to print "all".

So Ubuntu 11:10 32bit passes
Windows XP 32 bit fails

-- 
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,

On 06.08.2012 12:10, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi Jürgen, *
>
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:36:01AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
>>
>> - print problem with multiple pages
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
>> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
>> confirmed Linux as well
>>
>> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
>> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
>> on rev. 1369110)
>
>
> I assume it's a 64 bits only issue (it happens that we support 64 bits
> only in Linux), I base my assumption in the following:
>
> - I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu 10.4 32 bits
> - I can reproduce it on
>    - Ubuntu 10.4  64 bits
>    - Fedora 17    64 bits
> - Josef reproduced it on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
> - Rory couldn't reproduce it on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bits
>

just adding my test results here:
I couldn't reproduce it on Windows 7.

Thus, I agree here with Ariel that this issue seems to be a 64 bits one.

Best regards, Oliver.

>
> This can't be a build bug: I made a full clean build (and just for
> testing once again, I rebuilt it just now, and is still reproducible).
>

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Jürgen, *

On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:36:01AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
> 
> - print problem with multiple pages
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
> confirmed Linux as well
> 
> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
> on rev. 1369110)


I assume it's a 64 bits only issue (it happens that we support 64 bits
only in Linux), I base my assumption in the following:

- I can't reproduce it on Ubuntu 10.4 32 bits
- I can reproduce it on 
  - Ubuntu 10.4  64 bits
  - Fedora 17    64 bits
- Josef reproduced it on Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
- Rory couldn't reproduce it on Ubuntu 11.10 32 bits


This can't be a build bug: I made a full clean build (and just for
testing once again, I rebuilt it just now, and is still reproducible).


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
> <jo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
>>
>> - print problem with multiple pages
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
>> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
>> confirmed Linux as well
>>
>> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
>> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
>> on rev. 1369110)
>>
>
>
> I did a full matrix of tests on Windows XP, creating a password
> protected file in each of OOo 3.3.0, AOO 3.4.1 and the '110 snapshot.
> This was a simple "Hello world!" text document with password=password.
>
> 1) The file created in OOo 3.3.0 was read correctly in all three versions.
>
> 2) The file created in AOO 3.4.0 was read correctly in all three versions.
>
> 3)The file created in AOO 3.4.0 was read correctly in all three versions.
>

Should say "The file created on AOO 3.4.1 snapshot '110 ..."

> So I'm not seeing the problem in my env.  But Regina is reporting a
> problem.  So I think we need to clarify whether she is testing files
> created on 32-bit Windows OOo/AOO, or whether she was testing with
> Ariel's documents created on Linux-64?
>
> -Rob
>
>> Both problems seems to be regression issues and we analyzing the problems.
>>
>> The latest available snapshot is based on 1369110 and should be used for
>> any further testing.
>>
>> I will keep you informed.
>>
>> Juergen

Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: current status

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
<jo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we have currently 2 issues that need further investigation
>
> - print problem with multiple pages
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120464
> I can't reproduce it on MacOS but reproducable on Windows and others
> confirmed Linux as well
>
> - documents with password can't be loaded. This seems to be Linux only
> problem because we can't reproduce it on MacOS and Windows (clean builds
> on rev. 1369110)
>


I did a full matrix of tests on Windows XP, creating a password
protected file in each of OOo 3.3.0, AOO 3.4.1 and the '110 snapshot.
This was a simple "Hello world!" text document with password=password.

1) The file created in OOo 3.3.0 was read correctly in all three versions.

2) The file created in AOO 3.4.0 was read correctly in all three versions.

3)The file created in AOO 3.4.0 was read correctly in all three versions.

So I'm not seeing the problem in my env.  But Regina is reporting a
problem.  So I think we need to clarify whether she is testing files
created on 32-bit Windows OOo/AOO, or whether she was testing with
Ariel's documents created on Linux-64?

-Rob

> Both problems seems to be regression issues and we analyzing the problems.
>
> The latest available snapshot is based on 1369110 and should be used for
> any further testing.
>
> I will keep you informed.
>
> Juergen