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Posted to dev@calcite.apache.org by Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com> on 2019/11/24 23:21:50 UTC

Streaming extensions to the SQL Standard, call for participation

The ANSI/INCITS SQL committee has wrapped up its survey of streaming 
engines and their SQL dialects. During this effort, Edmon Begoli 
represented the perspective of the Apache Calcite communities.

Now the committee has appointed an ad hoc sub-group to discuss the 
desirability of adding streaming extensions to the SQL Standard. 
Hopefully, this sub-group can converge on an approach which satisfies 
everyone. Anyone can participate in this stage of the process. For the 
next several months, on the first and third Wednesdays of each month, 
the sub-group will meet by teleconference between 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm San 
Francisco time.

Your participation is warmly welcomed. If you are interested, please add 
yourself to the ad hoc sub-group by visiting the following web page: 
https://standards.incits.org/apps/org/workgroup/sql-streams/index.phpxs 
Next week, I will email detailed meeting coordinates to everyone who has 
signed up.

I look forward to meeting many of you via teleconference next week.

Best regards,

-Rick Hillegas
Chair, INCITS Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions for Streaming Data


Re: Streaming extensions to the SQL Standard, call for participation

Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
+1 I had the same concerns as Tyler.

Moving dev@calcite and Fabian to bcc, as this conversation is getting into the weeds.

Julian


> On Nov 26, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Tyler Akidau <ta...@google.com> wrote:
> 
> Rick, I've never participated in any standards committee organized via INCITS, so I'm a little unsure of how to proceed. When I go to the link you provided, it asks me to login. Lacking an account, I went to the membership signup page, and was able to find that my company (Google) is already a member, but then I'm required to select which group I want to join. The only listed group that is SQL related is "Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions Property Graphs". Is that the right group?
> 
> -Tyler
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:28 PM Tyler Akidau <takidau@google.com <ma...@google.com>> wrote:
> Thanks Julian. Nice to meet you Rick. I'm interested as well, although I'll have some difficult-to-move conflicts for some of those dates. I'll sign up and do what I can to clear my schedule out.
> 
> -Tyler
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 AM Rick Hillegas <rick.hillegas@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks, Julian. Looking forward to meeting you, Tyler, Ken, and Fabian.
> 
> On 11/25/19 7:29 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> > Thanks, Rick. I would be interested in joining.
> >
> > Adding Tyler, Kenn, Fabian to CC. They were (with Edmon) my co-authors of the SIGMOD paper and are adding streaming SQL extensions to Apache Beam and Flink based on Calcite.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 24, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Rick Hillegas <rick.hillegas@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> The ANSI/INCITS SQL committee has wrapped up its survey of streaming engines and their SQL dialects. During this effort, Edmon Begoli represented the perspective of the Apache Calcite communities.
> >>
> >> Now the committee has appointed an ad hoc sub-group to discuss the desirability of adding streaming extensions to the SQL Standard. Hopefully, this sub-group can converge on an approach which satisfies everyone. Anyone can participate in this stage of the process. For the next several months, on the first and third Wednesdays of each month, the sub-group will meet by teleconference between 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm San Francisco time.
> >>
> >> Your participation is warmly welcomed. If you are interested, please add yourself to the ad hoc sub-group by visiting the following web page: https://standards.incits.org/apps/org/workgroup/sql-streams/index.phpxs <https://standards.incits.org/apps/org/workgroup/sql-streams/index.phpxs> Next week, I will email detailed meeting coordinates to everyone who has signed up.
> >>
> >> I look forward to meeting many of you via teleconference next week.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> -Rick Hillegas
> >> Chair, INCITS Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions for Streaming Data
> >>
> >
> 


Re: Streaming extensions to the SQL Standard, call for participation

Posted by Tyler Akidau <ta...@google.com.INVALID>.
Rick, I've never participated in any standards committee organized via
INCITS, so I'm a little unsure of how to proceed. When I go to the link you
provided, it asks me to login. Lacking an account, I went to the membership
signup page, and was able to find that my company (Google) is already a
member, but then I'm required to select which group I want to join. The
only listed group that is SQL related is "Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions Property
Graphs". Is that the right group?

-Tyler


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:28 PM Tyler Akidau <ta...@google.com> wrote:

> Thanks Julian. Nice to meet you Rick. I'm interested as well, although
> I'll have some difficult-to-move conflicts for some of those dates. I'll
> sign up and do what I can to clear my schedule out.
>
> -Tyler
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 AM Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Julian. Looking forward to meeting you, Tyler, Ken, and Fabian.
>>
>> On 11/25/19 7:29 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
>> > Thanks, Rick. I would be interested in joining.
>> >
>> > Adding Tyler, Kenn, Fabian to CC. They were (with Edmon) my co-authors
>> of the SIGMOD paper and are adding streaming SQL extensions to Apache Beam
>> and Flink based on Calcite.
>> >
>> > Julian
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Nov 24, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The ANSI/INCITS SQL committee has wrapped up its survey of streaming
>> engines and their SQL dialects. During this effort, Edmon Begoli
>> represented the perspective of the Apache Calcite communities.
>> >>
>> >> Now the committee has appointed an ad hoc sub-group to discuss the
>> desirability of adding streaming extensions to the SQL Standard. Hopefully,
>> this sub-group can converge on an approach which satisfies everyone. Anyone
>> can participate in this stage of the process. For the next several months,
>> on the first and third Wednesdays of each month, the sub-group will meet by
>> teleconference between 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm San Francisco time.
>> >>
>> >> Your participation is warmly welcomed. If you are interested, please
>> add yourself to the ad hoc sub-group by visiting the following web page:
>> https://standards.incits.org/apps/org/workgroup/sql-streams/index.phpxs
>> Next week, I will email detailed meeting coordinates to everyone who has
>> signed up.
>> >>
>> >> I look forward to meeting many of you via teleconference next week.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> -Rick Hillegas
>> >> Chair, INCITS Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions for Streaming Data
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>

Re: Streaming extensions to the SQL Standard, call for participation

Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
Thanks from me as well. I too would be interested in participating.

Kenn

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:29 PM Tyler Akidau <ta...@google.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Thanks Julian. Nice to meet you Rick. I'm interested as well, although I'll
> have some difficult-to-move conflicts for some of those dates. I'll sign up
> and do what I can to clear my schedule out.
>
> -Tyler
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 AM Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Julian. Looking forward to meeting you, Tyler, Ken, and Fabian.
> >
> > On 11/25/19 7:29 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> > > Thanks, Rick. I would be interested in joining.
> > >
> > > Adding Tyler, Kenn, Fabian to CC. They were (with Edmon) my co-authors
> > of the SIGMOD paper and are adding streaming SQL extensions to Apache
> Beam
> > and Flink based on Calcite.
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Nov 24, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The ANSI/INCITS SQL committee has wrapped up its survey of streaming
> > engines and their SQL dialects. During this effort, Edmon Begoli
> > represented the perspective of the Apache Calcite communities.
> > >>
> > >> Now the committee has appointed an ad hoc sub-group to discuss the
> > desirability of adding streaming extensions to the SQL Standard.
> Hopefully,
> > this sub-group can converge on an approach which satisfies everyone.
> Anyone
> > can participate in this stage of the process. For the next several
> months,
> > on the first and third Wednesdays of each month, the sub-group will meet
> by
> > teleconference between 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm San Francisco time.
> > >>
> > >> Your participation is warmly welcomed. If you are interested, please
> > add yourself to the ad hoc sub-group by visiting the following web page:
> > https://standards.incits.org/apps/org/workgroup/sql-streams/index.phpxs
> > Next week, I will email detailed meeting coordinates to everyone who has
> > signed up.
> > >>
> > >> I look forward to meeting many of you via teleconference next week.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> -Rick Hillegas
> > >> Chair, INCITS Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions for Streaming Data
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: Streaming extensions to the SQL Standard, call for participation

Posted by Tyler Akidau <ta...@google.com.INVALID>.
Thanks Julian. Nice to meet you Rick. I'm interested as well, although I'll
have some difficult-to-move conflicts for some of those dates. I'll sign up
and do what I can to clear my schedule out.

-Tyler


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 AM Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, Julian. Looking forward to meeting you, Tyler, Ken, and Fabian.
>
> On 11/25/19 7:29 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> > Thanks, Rick. I would be interested in joining.
> >
> > Adding Tyler, Kenn, Fabian to CC. They were (with Edmon) my co-authors
> of the SIGMOD paper and are adding streaming SQL extensions to Apache Beam
> and Flink based on Calcite.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 24, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The ANSI/INCITS SQL committee has wrapped up its survey of streaming
> engines and their SQL dialects. During this effort, Edmon Begoli
> represented the perspective of the Apache Calcite communities.
> >>
> >> Now the committee has appointed an ad hoc sub-group to discuss the
> desirability of adding streaming extensions to the SQL Standard. Hopefully,
> this sub-group can converge on an approach which satisfies everyone. Anyone
> can participate in this stage of the process. For the next several months,
> on the first and third Wednesdays of each month, the sub-group will meet by
> teleconference between 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm San Francisco time.
> >>
> >> Your participation is warmly welcomed. If you are interested, please
> add yourself to the ad hoc sub-group by visiting the following web page:
> https://standards.incits.org/apps/org/workgroup/sql-streams/index.phpxs
> Next week, I will email detailed meeting coordinates to everyone who has
> signed up.
> >>
> >> I look forward to meeting many of you via teleconference next week.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> -Rick Hillegas
> >> Chair, INCITS Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions for Streaming Data
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: Streaming extensions to the SQL Standard, call for participation

Posted by Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, Julian. Looking forward to meeting you, Tyler, Ken, and Fabian.

On 11/25/19 7:29 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> Thanks, Rick. I would be interested in joining.
>
> Adding Tyler, Kenn, Fabian to CC. They were (with Edmon) my co-authors of the SIGMOD paper and are adding streaming SQL extensions to Apache Beam and Flink based on Calcite.
>
> Julian
>
>
>> On Nov 24, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The ANSI/INCITS SQL committee has wrapped up its survey of streaming engines and their SQL dialects. During this effort, Edmon Begoli represented the perspective of the Apache Calcite communities.
>>
>> Now the committee has appointed an ad hoc sub-group to discuss the desirability of adding streaming extensions to the SQL Standard. Hopefully, this sub-group can converge on an approach which satisfies everyone. Anyone can participate in this stage of the process. For the next several months, on the first and third Wednesdays of each month, the sub-group will meet by teleconference between 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm San Francisco time.
>>
>> Your participation is warmly welcomed. If you are interested, please add yourself to the ad hoc sub-group by visiting the following web page: https://standards.incits.org/apps/org/workgroup/sql-streams/index.phpxs Next week, I will email detailed meeting coordinates to everyone who has signed up.
>>
>> I look forward to meeting many of you via teleconference next week.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -Rick Hillegas
>> Chair, INCITS Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions for Streaming Data
>>
>


Re: Streaming extensions to the SQL Standard, call for participation

Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
Thanks, Rick. I would be interested in joining.

Adding Tyler, Kenn, Fabian to CC. They were (with Edmon) my co-authors of the SIGMOD paper and are adding streaming SQL extensions to Apache Beam and Flink based on Calcite.

Julian


> On Nov 24, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The ANSI/INCITS SQL committee has wrapped up its survey of streaming engines and their SQL dialects. During this effort, Edmon Begoli represented the perspective of the Apache Calcite communities.
> 
> Now the committee has appointed an ad hoc sub-group to discuss the desirability of adding streaming extensions to the SQL Standard. Hopefully, this sub-group can converge on an approach which satisfies everyone. Anyone can participate in this stage of the process. For the next several months, on the first and third Wednesdays of each month, the sub-group will meet by teleconference between 1:00 pm - 3:00 pm San Francisco time.
> 
> Your participation is warmly welcomed. If you are interested, please add yourself to the ad hoc sub-group by visiting the following web page: https://standards.incits.org/apps/org/workgroup/sql-streams/index.phpxs Next week, I will email detailed meeting coordinates to everyone who has signed up.
> 
> I look forward to meeting many of you via teleconference next week.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -Rick Hillegas
> Chair, INCITS Ad Hoc on SQL Extensions for Streaming Data
>