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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> on 2015/04/22 10:36:23 UTC
Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Hi all,
In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
"org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
Apache projects/products.
Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
creating a JIRA and work from there?
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
+1
On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
> Apache projects/products.
>
> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>.
+1
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 4/22/2015 9:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
> Apache projects/products.
>
> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Done at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6274
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de>
wrote:
> +1
>
> Michael
> ecomify.de
>
> Am 22.04.15 um 10:36 schrieb Pierre Smits:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
>> Apache projects/products.
>>
>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Michael Brohl <mi...@ecomify.de>.
+1
Michael
ecomify.de
Am 22.04.15 um 10:36 schrieb Pierre Smits:
> Hi all,
>
> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
> Apache projects/products.
>
> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Ron Wheeler <rw...@artifact-software.com>.
On 29/04/2015 11:25 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Yes, I answered to Ron about "searching for modules in Maven Central a
> bit more sensible." But this means to use Maven to me, else I still
> don't see the reason
Really only helpful if we follow up on the idea of distributing the
framework (or other modules) to people who want it as a dependency in
their own projects unrelated to OFBiz.
Now we are starting to think about switching frameworks.....
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 29/04/2015 15:12, Pierre Smits a écrit :
>> For sure nobody wants to alienate the users.
>>
>> But it also about getting in line with the policies of the ASF, e.g.
>> branding. Given that we are considering a lot of impacting changes in
>> the
>> near future (see other threads), the opportunity to rename the artefacts
>> becomes evident when these intended changes are upon us.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 27/04/2015 13:08, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename
>>>> packages and
>>>> what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion.
>>>> So like
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>> Mmm, I was not clear, of course for the project it would be cool. I was
>>> more thinking about the project users, our beloved users.... We
>>> should not
>>> mistreat them when we can avoid... I see no plus in renaming packages!
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL
>>>> "clean"!
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> -1, but not permanently.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port
>>>>> changes back
>>>>> and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce
>>>>> the number
>>>>> of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
>>>>>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation,
>>>>>> testing
>>>>>> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your
>>>>>>> response,
>>>>>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project
>>>>>>> (endeavour
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> a better word).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>>>>>>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>>>>>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>>>>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of
>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and
>>>>>>>> replace"
>>>>>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking
>>>>>>>> for all
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then
>>>>>>>> picking
>>>>>>>> the next piece.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> In this posting
>>>>>>>>> http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k
>>>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>>>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move
>>>>>>>>> forward by
>>>>>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Yes, I answered to Ron about "searching for modules in Maven Central a bit more sensible." But this means to use Maven to me, else I still don't see
the reason
Jacques
Le 29/04/2015 15:12, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> For sure nobody wants to alienate the users.
>
> But it also about getting in line with the policies of the ASF, e.g.
> branding. Given that we are considering a lot of impacting changes in the
> near future (see other threads), the opportunity to rename the artefacts
> becomes evident when these intended changes are upon us.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 27/04/2015 13:08, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>
>>> I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename packages and
>>> what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. So like
>>> Adam
>>>
>> Mmm, I was not clear, of course for the project it would be cool. I was
>> more thinking about the project users, our beloved users.... We should not
>> mistreat them when we can avoid... I see no plus in renaming packages!
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
>>
>>> -1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL
>>> "clean"!
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit :
>>>
>>>> -1, but not permanently.
>>>>
>>>> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back
>>>> and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number
>>>> of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started.
>>>>
>>>> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people
>>>>> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
>>>>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing
>>>>> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
>>>>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a better word).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>>>>>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>>>>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>>>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>>>>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and
>>>>>>> replace"
>>>>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then
>>>>>>> picking
>>>>>>> the next piece.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k
>>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move
>>>>>>>> forward by
>>>>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
For sure nobody wants to alienate the users.
But it also about getting in line with the policies of the ASF, e.g.
branding. Given that we are considering a lot of impacting changes in the
near future (see other threads), the opportunity to rename the artefacts
becomes evident when these intended changes are upon us.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com> wrote:
> Le 27/04/2015 13:08, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>
>> I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename packages and
>> what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. So like
>> Adam
>>
>
> Mmm, I was not clear, of course for the project it would be cool. I was
> more thinking about the project users, our beloved users.... We should not
> mistreat them when we can avoid... I see no plus in renaming packages!
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
>> -1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL
>> "clean"!
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit :
>>
>>> -1, but not permanently.
>>>
>>> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back
>>> and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number
>>> of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started.
>>>
>>> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people
>>>> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
>>>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing
>>>> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ron,
>>>>>
>>>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
>>>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour
>>>>> for
>>>>> a better word).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>>>>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>
>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>>>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>>>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and
>>>>>> replace"
>>>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then
>>>>>> picking
>>>>>> the next piece.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k
>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move
>>>>>>> forward by
>>>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>>>> President
>>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Le 27/04/2015 13:08, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename packages and what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. So like
> Adam
Mmm, I was not clear, of course for the project it would be cool. I was more thinking about the project users, our beloved users.... We should not
mistreat them when we can avoid... I see no plus in renaming packages!
Jacques
>
> -1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL "clean"!
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit :
>> -1, but not permanently.
>>
>> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the
>> number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started.
>>
>> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
>>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>> Ron,
>>>>
>>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
>>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for
>>>> a better word).
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>>>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>
>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace"
>>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of
>>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking
>>>>> the next piece.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
>>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
>>>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
>>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>>> President
>>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
I agree with Adam moreover I don't see a real need to rename packages and what it would add to the project apart more efforts and confusion. So like Adam
-1, even in the long term on my side, I'm not mad about having ALL "clean"!
Jacques
Le 22/04/2015 17:13, Adam Heath a écrit :
> -1, but not permanently.
>
> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number
> of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started.
>
> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>>
>> Ron
>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for
>>> a better word).
>>>
>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace"
>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of
>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking
>>>> the next piece.
>>>>
>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
>>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>
>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>> President
>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Martin Becker <ma...@ecomify.de>.
That’s a good point!
(especially for a bunch of build tool alternative branches ;-))
Martin Becker
ecomify GmbH
> Am 22.04.2015 um 17:13 schrieb Adam Heath <do...@brainfood.com>:
>
> -1, but not permanently.
>
> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started.
>
> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>>
>> Ron
>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for
>>> a better word).
>>>
>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace"
>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of
>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking
>>>> the next piece.
>>>>
>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
>>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>
>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>> President
>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Hans Bakker <h....@antwebsystems.com>.
Can people explain the advantages? "just in-line with other projects?"
that is it?
how about all customizations and local implementations?
a -1 from me too
On 22/04/15 22:13, Adam Heath wrote:
> -1, but not permanently.
>
> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes
> back and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce
> the number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be
> started.
>
> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several
>> people divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing
>> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>>
>> Ron
>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project
>>> (endeavour for
>>> a better word).
>>>
>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and
>>>> replace"
>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for
>>>> all of
>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then
>>>> picking
>>>> the next piece.
>>>>
>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by
>>>>> other
>>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move
>>>>> forward by
>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>
>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>> President
>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@sandglass-software.com>.
I have a feeling that the R15.x branch will not be backward compatible
due to all of the refactoring going on.
People will complain that the package rename will break local
modifications - but so will a bunch of other things that are going on.
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com
On 4/22/2015 4:13 PM, Adam Heath wrote:
> -1, but not permanently.
>
> If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back
> and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the
> number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started.
>
> On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
>> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people
>> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
>> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing
>> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>>
>> Ron
>> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
>>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project
>>> (endeavour for
>>> a better word).
>>>
>>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and
>>>> replace"
>>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for
>>>> all of
>>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then
>>>> picking
>>>> the next piece.
>>>>
>>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by
>>>>> other
>>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move
>>>>> forward by
>>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>>
>>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>> President
>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Adam Heath <do...@brainfood.com>.
-1, but not permanently.
If we start renaming things, then it'll become hard to port changes back
and forth between release branches and trunk. We need to reduce the
number of outstanding branches first, before this can even be started.
On 04/22/2015 10:09 AM, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people
> divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
> divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing
> and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
>
> Ron
> On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>> Ron,
>>
>> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
>> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project
>> (endeavour for
>> a better word).
>>
>> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
>> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
>> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Definitely a good idea.
>>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and
>>> replace"
>>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for
>>> all of
>>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then
>>> picking
>>> the next piece.
>>>
>>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k
>>>> Adrian
>>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by
>>>> other
>>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>>
>>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move
>>>> forward by
>>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>
>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Ron Wheeler
>>> President
>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Ron Wheeler <rw...@artifact-software.com>.
I was thinking of something like an 8 hour sprint where several people
divide up the task and do it and test it quickly.
divide up by application, code/XML, seed data, documentation, testing
and what ever makes sense to get the change done in a few hours.
Ron
On 22/04/2015 5:01 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Ron,
>
> Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
> everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for
> a better word).
>
> Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
> wholeheartedly agree and support.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
> rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
>
>> Definitely a good idea.
>> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
>> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace"
>> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of
>> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking
>> the next piece.
>>
>> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
>>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
>>> Apache projects/products.
>>>
>>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
>>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Ron Wheeler
>> President
>> Artifact Software Inc
>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>
>>
--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
Ron,
Notwithstanding the appropriateness of the elements in your response,
everything done in the OFBiz project IS a community project (endeavour for
a better word).
Thank you for reiterating the invite for more collaboration. I
wholeheartedly agree and support.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ron Wheeler <
rwheeler@artifact-software.com> wrote:
> Definitely a good idea.
> Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
> It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and replace"
> followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking for all of
> the references to that code and changing them and testing and then picking
> the next piece.
>
> Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
>
> Ron
>
> On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
>> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
>> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
>> Apache projects/products.
>>
>> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
>> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
>
Re: Renaming OFBiz artefacts
Posted by Ron Wheeler <rw...@artifact-software.com>.
Definitely a good idea.
Should it be done as a community project over a short period of time?
It would seem to be easier to do as a sort of global "search and
replace" followed by testing rather than modifying a piece and looking
for all of the references to that code and changing them and testing and
then picking the next piece.
Adding a JIRA sounds like the best start.
Ron
On 22/04/2015 4:36 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In this posting http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/mjlm5dvimcjngr6k Adrian
> proposed to rename our OFBiz artefacts from "org.ofbiz" to
> "org.apache.ofbiz" to bring it more inline to conventions used by other
> Apache projects/products.
>
> Does this proposal need any further discussion? Or can we move forward by
> creating a JIRA and work from there?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102