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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Dmitri Plotnikov <dm...@apache.org> on 2007/02/19 19:19:46 UTC
Re: [jxpath] was: [all] Status of components
Hi,
I just wanted to express my immense gratitude to Matt Benson for stepping in
as the new curator of JXPath. I am happy that it will be in such capable
hands.
BTW, JXPath does not really have to be dormant. If somebody were interested
in taking it further, there are several things that could still be done,
e.g. XPath 2.0 conformance, some level of integration with java.xml.xpath,
also perhaps some new SPI, which would allow an alternate engine to step in
and provide an optimized implementation for some object model (think Jaxen
for DOM). Of course, I wanted to do all those things myself, but I have
been very busy on other projects lately.
Best regards,
- Dmitri Plotnikov
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dion Gillard" <di...@gmail.com>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [all] Status of components
> On 2/7/07, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I made a stab of defining the current status for Commons for the
>> Jakarta board report:
>>
>> http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current
>>
>> Here's the summary. Any thoughts on the ?? marks and the dormancy
>> candidates? Feel free to add things to the wiki page. I've not added
>> all of this yet.
>>
>> Attributes - Needs a new release, after that a dormancy candidate.
>> BeanUtils - Inactive. 1.8.0 slowly being worked on.
>> Betwixt - Just released.
>> Chain - ??
>> CLI - Inactive. Dormancy candidate?
>> Codec - Inactive.
>> Collections - Inactive - new releases discussed but not much movement.
>> Configuration - Active.
>> Daemon - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>> DBCP - 1.2.2 release in the works.
>> DbUtils - 1.1 release made. No plans for 1.2.
>> Digester - ??
>> Discovery - 0.4 release made, nothing new planned. Dormancy candidate.
>> EL - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>> Email - Maybe a 1.1 release in the works. Not much activity yet.
>> FileUpload - 1.2 release in the works.
>> IO - 1.3 just released.
>> Jelly - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>
> Again, little ongoing hard core development, but a little fix work and
> experimentation happens.
>
>> Jexl - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>
> Jexl gets a little bit of development here and there and has been
> reasonably stable recently. We keep threatening to start Jexl 2.
>
>> JXPath - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>> Lang - 2.3 release in the works.
>> Launcher - Inactive. Dormancy candidate.
>> Logging - Needs a 1.1.1 release, no plans beyond that.
>> Math - Slow activity.
>> Modeler - Inactive - dormancy?
>> Net - New JDK 1.5 version in the works.
>> Pool - New version in the works.
>> Primitives - Inactive. Dormancy candidate?
>> SCXML - Active, just released.
>> Transaction - Release being discussed.
>> Validator - Active.
>> VFS - Active and releasing.
>>
>> Dormant - Nothing likely to leave dormancy.
>>
>> Sandbox - Nothing that looks like moving to proper anytime soon. Some
>> for dormancy (finder, id).
>>
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Re: [jxpath] was: [all] Status of components
Posted by Dmitri Plotnikov <dm...@apache.org>.
Matt,
I fully agree.
As you can see from the thread on JXPATH-61, the discussion was quite
heated, so in the end I decided to just let it simmer and neither release
nor revert the changes for a while. It's years and no new arguments have
been added to the discussion. The prevailing opinion appears to be to keep
things as they were in 1.2. Thus we should revert the changes (which are
not too extensive anyway).
Thank you,
- Dmitri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Benson" <gu...@yahoo.com>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [jxpath] was: [all] Status of components
> Hi Dmitri... glad to see you got your apache.org mail
> back working again (saw it on infra@). ;) If you're
> in the "neighborhood" for the moment, I'd like to
> gauge your opinion RE
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JXPATH-61 . The
> final consensus seems to have been that the entire
> thing should be forgotten, as Elliotte Rusty H so
> vehemently pushed for, but your final changes were
> never reverted. Based on my very limited
> understanding of the issue my personal inclination
> would have been to take ERH at his word, given the
> rather large collection of XML-related books he has to
> his name (I'll acknowledge that's perhaps a lazy
> attitude, but I have lots of other projects to look at
> too). Since it has been awhile, I'd like your current
> thoughts on whether this change should indeed appear
> in the 1.3 release. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> --- Dmitri Plotnikov <dm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just wanted to express my immense gratitude to
>> Matt Benson for stepping in
>> as the new curator of JXPath. I am happy that it
>> will be in such capable
>> hands.
>>
>> BTW, JXPath does not really have to be dormant. If
>> somebody were interested
>> in taking it further, there are several things that
>> could still be done,
>> e.g. XPath 2.0 conformance, some level of
>> integration with java.xml.xpath,
>> also perhaps some new SPI, which would allow an
>> alternate engine to step in
>> and provide an optimized implementation for some
>> object model (think Jaxen
>> for DOM). Of course, I wanted to do all those
>> things myself, but I have
>> been very busy on other projects lately.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> - Dmitri Plotnikov
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dion Gillard" <di...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List"
>> <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [all] Status of components
>>
>>
>> > On 2/7/07, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> I made a stab of defining the current status for
>> Commons for the
>> >> Jakarta board report:
>> >>
>> >>
>>
> http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current
>> >>
>> >> Here's the summary. Any thoughts on the ?? marks
>> and the dormancy
>> >> candidates? Feel free to add things to the wiki
>> page. I've not added
>> >> all of this yet.
>> >>
>> >> Attributes - Needs a new release, after that a
>> dormancy candidate.
>> >> BeanUtils - Inactive. 1.8.0 slowly being worked
>> on.
>> >> Betwixt - Just released.
>> >> Chain - ??
>> >> CLI - Inactive. Dormancy candidate?
>> >> Codec - Inactive.
>> >> Collections - Inactive - new releases discussed
>> but not much movement.
>> >> Configuration - Active.
>> >> Daemon - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>> >> DBCP - 1.2.2 release in the works.
>> >> DbUtils - 1.1 release made. No plans for 1.2.
>> >> Digester - ??
>> >> Discovery - 0.4 release made, nothing new
>> planned. Dormancy candidate.
>> >> EL - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>> >> Email - Maybe a 1.1 release in the works. Not
>> much activity yet.
>> >> FileUpload - 1.2 release in the works.
>> >> IO - 1.3 just released.
>> >> Jelly - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>> >
>> > Again, little ongoing hard core development, but a
>> little fix work and
>> > experimentation happens.
>> >
>> >> Jexl - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>> >
>> > Jexl gets a little bit of development here and
>> there and has been
>> > reasonably stable recently. We keep threatening to
>> start Jexl 2.
>> >
>> >> JXPath - ?? Dormancy candidate?
>> >> Lang - 2.3 release in the works.
>> >> Launcher - Inactive. Dormancy candidate.
>> >> Logging - Needs a 1.1.1 release, no plans beyond
>> that.
>> >> Math - Slow activity.
>> >> Modeler - Inactive - dormancy?
>> >> Net - New JDK 1.5 version in the works.
>> >> Pool - New version in the works.
>> >> Primitives - Inactive. Dormancy candidate?
>> >> SCXML - Active, just released.
>> >> Transaction - Release being discussed.
>> >> Validator - Active.
>> >> VFS - Active and releasing.
>> >>
>> >> Dormant - Nothing likely to leave dormancy.
>> >>
>> >> Sandbox - Nothing that looks like moving to
>> proper anytime soon. Some
>> >> for dormancy (finder, id).
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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>> >
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Re: [jxpath] was: [all] Status of components
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com>.
Hi Dmitri... glad to see you got your apache.org mail
back working again (saw it on infra@). ;) If you're
in the "neighborhood" for the moment, I'd like to
gauge your opinion RE
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JXPATH-61 . The
final consensus seems to have been that the entire
thing should be forgotten, as Elliotte Rusty H so
vehemently pushed for, but your final changes were
never reverted. Based on my very limited
understanding of the issue my personal inclination
would have been to take ERH at his word, given the
rather large collection of XML-related books he has to
his name (I'll acknowledge that's perhaps a lazy
attitude, but I have lots of other projects to look at
too). Since it has been awhile, I'd like your current
thoughts on whether this change should indeed appear
in the 1.3 release. :)
Thanks,
Matt
--- Dmitri Plotnikov <dm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just wanted to express my immense gratitude to
> Matt Benson for stepping in
> as the new curator of JXPath. I am happy that it
> will be in such capable
> hands.
>
> BTW, JXPath does not really have to be dormant. If
> somebody were interested
> in taking it further, there are several things that
> could still be done,
> e.g. XPath 2.0 conformance, some level of
> integration with java.xml.xpath,
> also perhaps some new SPI, which would allow an
> alternate engine to step in
> and provide an optimized implementation for some
> object model (think Jaxen
> for DOM). Of course, I wanted to do all those
> things myself, but I have
> been very busy on other projects lately.
>
> Best regards,
>
> - Dmitri Plotnikov
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dion Gillard" <di...@gmail.com>
> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List"
> <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [all] Status of components
>
>
> > On 2/7/07, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I made a stab of defining the current status for
> Commons for the
> >> Jakarta board report:
> >>
> >>
>
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-current
> >>
> >> Here's the summary. Any thoughts on the ?? marks
> and the dormancy
> >> candidates? Feel free to add things to the wiki
> page. I've not added
> >> all of this yet.
> >>
> >> Attributes - Needs a new release, after that a
> dormancy candidate.
> >> BeanUtils - Inactive. 1.8.0 slowly being worked
> on.
> >> Betwixt - Just released.
> >> Chain - ??
> >> CLI - Inactive. Dormancy candidate?
> >> Codec - Inactive.
> >> Collections - Inactive - new releases discussed
> but not much movement.
> >> Configuration - Active.
> >> Daemon - ?? Dormancy candidate?
> >> DBCP - 1.2.2 release in the works.
> >> DbUtils - 1.1 release made. No plans for 1.2.
> >> Digester - ??
> >> Discovery - 0.4 release made, nothing new
> planned. Dormancy candidate.
> >> EL - ?? Dormancy candidate?
> >> Email - Maybe a 1.1 release in the works. Not
> much activity yet.
> >> FileUpload - 1.2 release in the works.
> >> IO - 1.3 just released.
> >> Jelly - ?? Dormancy candidate?
> >
> > Again, little ongoing hard core development, but a
> little fix work and
> > experimentation happens.
> >
> >> Jexl - ?? Dormancy candidate?
> >
> > Jexl gets a little bit of development here and
> there and has been
> > reasonably stable recently. We keep threatening to
> start Jexl 2.
> >
> >> JXPath - ?? Dormancy candidate?
> >> Lang - 2.3 release in the works.
> >> Launcher - Inactive. Dormancy candidate.
> >> Logging - Needs a 1.1.1 release, no plans beyond
> that.
> >> Math - Slow activity.
> >> Modeler - Inactive - dormancy?
> >> Net - New JDK 1.5 version in the works.
> >> Pool - New version in the works.
> >> Primitives - Inactive. Dormancy candidate?
> >> SCXML - Active, just released.
> >> Transaction - Release being discussed.
> >> Validator - Active.
> >> VFS - Active and releasing.
> >>
> >> Dormant - Nothing likely to leave dormancy.
> >>
> >> Sandbox - Nothing that looks like moving to
> proper anytime soon. Some
> >> for dormancy (finder, id).
> >>
> >>
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