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new logo top AND a search idea revisited
hello
first of all, the following preview urls are very crude
(time limits), so please have that in mind when "reviewing" them.
the first 3 urls are basically identical:
http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/binaries.html
http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/stable.html
http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/bundles.html
they incorerate the new logo and a camel (so far) on the
right side. also moved the breadcrumb up in that area.
it would be nice if you can check these new specific changes
on different browsers/systems and do the usual
-2,-1,0,+1,+2.
so far, on macintosh, it looks "perfect" in the sense that
only the graphics needs to be
cleaned and the html twisted a little
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another thing is the search block.
please take a look at:
http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/search.html
i have put the search there for various reasons - taking
everything into consideration(*) i prefer to have it there.
what do you think?
* we free space at the top of the content area so we only
have the download widgets and prev|up|next widgets there =>
more easy on the eyes
* we dont have to have the same look & feel as the other
widgets, so we can easily use a submit button without
disturbing the design
* we bring focus to the search (maybe we can even remove it
from the menu this way?)
* in the left area we can more easily expand the advanced
search with more input fields if we wish
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./allan
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Re: new logo top AND a search idea revisited
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
>>in Konqueror the solid line and the camel image end up in the middle of
>>the page.
>
>
> please send me a screenshot if possible. thanks.
I've sent the snapshot to Allan.
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Re: new logo top AND a search idea revisited
Posted by allan <la...@inet.uni2.dk>.
Stas Bekman wrote:
> > the first 3 urls are basically identical:
> >
> > http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/binaries.html
> > http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/stable.html
> > http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/bundles.html
> >
> >
> > they incorerate the new logo and a camel (so far) on the
> > right side. also moved the breadcrumb up in that area.
> > it would be nice if you can check these new specific changes
> > on different browsers/systems and do the usual
> > -2,-1,0,+1,+2.
> >
> > so far, on macintosh, it looks "perfect" in the sense that
> > only the graphics needs to be
> > cleaned and the html twisted a little
>
> Assuming that we talk only about the top of the page, this is one linux:
>
> Mozilla9.9 +2
> Konqueror +0
> Opera5 +2
> NS4 +2
>
> in Konqueror the solid line and the camel image end up in the middle of
> the page.
please send me a screenshot if possible. thanks.
./allan
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Re: new logo top AND a search idea revisited
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
allan wrote:
> hello
>
>
> first of all, the following preview urls are very crude
> (time limits), so please have that in mind when "reviewing" them.
>
>
> the first 3 urls are basically identical:
>
> http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/binaries.html
> http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/stable.html
> http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/bundles.html
>
>
> they incorerate the new logo and a camel (so far) on the
> right side. also moved the breadcrumb up in that area.
> it would be nice if you can check these new specific changes
> on different browsers/systems and do the usual
> -2,-1,0,+1,+2.
>
> so far, on macintosh, it looks "perfect" in the sense that
> only the graphics needs to be
> cleaned and the html twisted a little
Assuming that we talk only about the top of the page, this is one linux:
Mozilla9.9 +2
Konqueror +0
Opera5 +2
NS4 +2
in Konqueror the solid line and the camel image end up in the middle of
the page.
> another thing is the search block.
> please take a look at:
>
> http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/search.html
>
>
> i have put the search there for various reasons - taking
> everything into consideration(*) i prefer to have it there.
> what do you think?
>
>
> * we free space at the top of the content area so we only
> have the download widgets and prev|up|next widgets there =>
> more easy on the eyes
> * we dont have to have the same look & feel as the other
> widgets, so we can easily use a submit button without
> disturbing the design
> * we bring focus to the search (maybe we can even remove it
> from the menu this way?)
> * in the left area we can more easily expand the advanced
> search with more input fields if we wish
+-0 on this change.
I think that when the search widget is inside the content, it makes it
clear that it searches the immediate content without any need for radio
buttons, etc. When you put it on the left side, you take it out of
context and then you must have this search this/site choice. Also it
creates an empty space in the navbar, but may be it's because I'm used
to have 3 widgets there and not two.
My approach was simple, the search searches 'this' (what you see and
beneath) if you want a more complex search with all the twists you go to
a dedicated search page.
The current and the newly suggested design both have their benefits and
drawbacks, I'm fine with both, so let's see what others like better,
assuming that the existing design will be improved with a search image
button of identical design and the other buttons.
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Re: new logo top AND a search idea revisited
Posted by allan <la...@inet.uni2.dk>.
Bill Moseley wrote:
> > another thing is the search block.
> > please take a look at:
> >
> > http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/search.html
>
> I actually like that search box there. I'm not sure if that's because that is a more common place to see a search box, or if it's because it makes the content section less busy.
>
> I also like the bread crumb above. Again, I think it's because it frees up space on the content section.
>
> The page is a little bland, color wise. Going to have trouble with the color of the "mod" in the logo with the background. And I wonder if the blue color of the "perl" can be used other places.
yes i have thought of that, maybe we can talk to the
designer so he can give us some colours that match ours:) or
possibly we could just have a white background instead of
the gray?
> Did we ever try using an underline active link style? That might liven it up a little. Hot pink underlines ;)
i dont think we did, do you want all links or only menu or
only breadcrumb or ?
./allan
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Re: new logo top AND a search idea revisited
Posted by Bill Moseley <mo...@hank.org>.
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:40:15 +0800 allan wrote:
> first of all, the following preview urls are very crude
> (time limits), so please have that in mind when "reviewing" them.
I like them, Konqueror doesn't display the camel on the right margin, but my Konqueror setup also displays the fonts small for some reason I haven't bothered to track down.
> another thing is the search block.
> please take a look at:
>
> http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/search.html
I actually like that search box there. I'm not sure if that's because that is a more common place to see a search box, or if it's because it makes the content section less busy.
I also like the bread crumb above. Again, I think it's because it frees up space on the content section.
The page is a little bland, color wise. Going to have trouble with the color of the "mod" in the logo with the background. And I wonder if the blue color of the "perl" can be used other places.
Did we ever try using an underline active link style? That might liven it up a little. Hot pink underlines ;)
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Re: new logo top AND a search idea revisited
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
> I think it looks great. Except for the logo of course, which has some
> problems with some white surrounding the text.
As Allan has mentioned this is a proof of concept, not a clean final
presentation.
> On Windows XP:
> Opera 6.1 +2
> Mozilla 0.9.9 +2
> IE 6.0 +2
Cool!
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Re: new logo top AND a search idea revisited
Posted by Per Einar Ellefsen <pe...@skynet.be>.
Hi, I'm a little new at this scoring system you have, but I'll give it a
shot :)
At 11:40 22.03.2002 +0800, allan wrote:
>hello
>
>
>first of all, the following preview urls are very crude
>(time limits), so please have that in mind when "reviewing" them.
>
>
>the first 3 urls are basically identical:
>
>http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/binaries.html
>http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/stable.html
>http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/new_logo_top/download/bundles.html
I think it looks great. Except for the logo of course, which has some
problems with some white surrounding the text.
>they incorerate the new logo and a camel (so far) on the
>right side. also moved the breadcrumb up in that area.
>it would be nice if you can check these new specific changes
>on different browsers/systems and do the usual
>-2,-1,0,+1,+2.
>
>so far, on macintosh, it looks "perfect" in the sense that
>only the graphics needs to be
>cleaned and the html twisted a little
On Windows XP:
Opera 6.1 +2
Mozilla 0.9.9 +2
IE 6.0 +2
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