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A view into Maven

Hi,

I've tried to make it easy to see what's going on by looking here:

http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home

- Design documents
- Work in Progress
- Development Process (there because it's in flux)
- Taxonomy (or structure of our information, and much is linked off  
there right now)
- Release Schedule
- Recent Releases

Kenney has already suggest to put the design queue or "design in  
progress" in full view so I will do that. Any other suggestions are  
welcome and if people were responsible for any releases if they could  
wire up the release notes that would be great.

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: A view into Maven

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
Sure, I put a description there. They are for Maven's own integration  
tests.

On 8 Jun 07, at 8:06 PM 8 Jun 07, Nelz wrote:

> For the "IT Problems", maybe some clarification as to what type of IT
> problems you are talking about...  Maven-project-itself "IT Problems",
> versus addressing IT strategies for Maven users in general...
>
> - Nelz
>
> On 6/8/07, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've tried to make it easy to see what's going on by looking here:
>>
>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
>>
>> - Design documents
>> - Work in Progress
>> - Development Process (there because it's in flux)
>> - Taxonomy (or structure of our information, and much is linked off
>> there right now)
>> - Release Schedule
>> - Recent Releases
>>
>> Kenney has already suggest to put the design queue or "design in
>> progress" in full view so I will do that. Any other suggestions are
>> welcome and if people were responsible for any releases if they could
>> wire up the release notes that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder and PMC Chair, Apache Maven
>> jason at sonatype dot com
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
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Thanks,

Jason

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Re: A view into Maven

Posted by Nelz <ne...@gmail.com>.
For the "IT Problems", maybe some clarification as to what type of IT
problems you are talking about...  Maven-project-itself "IT Problems",
versus addressing IT strategies for Maven users in general...

- Nelz

On 6/8/07, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've tried to make it easy to see what's going on by looking here:
>
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
>
> - Design documents
> - Work in Progress
> - Development Process (there because it's in flux)
> - Taxonomy (or structure of our information, and much is linked off
> there right now)
> - Release Schedule
> - Recent Releases
>
> Kenney has already suggest to put the design queue or "design in
> progress" in full view so I will do that. Any other suggestions are
> welcome and if people were responsible for any releases if they could
> wire up the release notes that would be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder and PMC Chair, Apache Maven
> jason at sonatype dot com
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
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Re: A view into Maven

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On 8 Jun 07, at 8:08 PM 8 Jun 07, Henri Yandell wrote:

> On 6/8/07, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've tried to make it easy to see what's going on by looking here:
>>
>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
>
> Idea is good. Hard part is going to be keeping it a live document  
> (as always).
>

It ultimately has to be an aggregator for the most part. Of course,  
some of it will have to be maintained but it's just something that  
has to be done. I'll keep doing it, I realize what a poor job we do  
at keeping folks abreast of what's going on. The sheer pathetic  
nature of what we've done thus far will keep me motivated for a while.

You should have access now.

> Could you add 'bayard' to the perms for Maven confluence stuff?
>
> Hen
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Thanks,

Jason

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Re: A view into Maven

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On 8 Jun 07, at 8:08 PM 8 Jun 07, Henri Yandell wrote:

> On 6/8/07, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've tried to make it easy to see what's going on by looking here:
>>
>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
>
> Idea is good. Hard part is going to be keeping it a live document  
> (as always).
>

Really, as I get rid of some of the larger barrier like categorizing  
the information it become more interesting to try and improve. We've  
just been lazy, really at most we're talking 15-20 minutes a day to  
keep it updated. About a third of it can be automated and we can  
probably have some really cool stuff.

> Could you add 'bayard' to the perms for Maven confluence stuff?
>
> Hen
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Thanks,

Jason

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Re: A view into Maven

Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On 6/8/07, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
>
> I've tried to make it easy to see what's going on by looking here:
>
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home

Idea is good. Hard part is going to be keeping it a live document (as always).

Could you add 'bayard' to the perms for Maven confluence stuff?

Hen

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Re: A view into Maven

Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
I like the idea of a work in progress section in here. I've been wanting 
to communicate in some way what I'm working on, but haven't found a good 
way to do it.

We previously had two options to do this:
1. JIRA, for individual issues
2. Our release calendar, for the release dates

For me, who do this in my spare time, neither of these really work.

1. doesn't work because it gets lost in there. Users don't do a custom 
filter in JIRA to see what (Maven) issues are being worked on. We could 
supply this for them, but it is too detailed. It also requires us all to 
be consistent in using the appropriate flags and fields in JIRA.

2. doesn't work either, because I don't know ahead when I will be able 
to finish a release. There are two reasons for this; I don't know when I 
start something how much time the actual work will take and also I don't 
know before hand how much time I will be able to spend, because of day 
job, family and other commitments.

So I'd love a place where I can just put "Dennis is working towards a 
2.1 release of maven-idea-plugin". Also, I think that this (low) level 
of detail will appeal to our users.


Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've tried to make it easy to see what's going on by looking here:
> 
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Home
> 
> - Design documents
> - Work in Progress
> - Development Process (there because it's in flux)
> - Taxonomy (or structure of our information, and much is linked off 
> there right now)
> - Release Schedule
> - Recent Releases
> 
> Kenney has already suggest to put the design queue or "design in 
> progress" in full view so I will do that. Any other suggestions are 
> welcome and if people were responsible for any releases if they could 
> wire up the release notes that would be great.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder and PMC Chair, Apache Maven
> jason at sonatype dot com
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
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-- 
Dennis Lundberg

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