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Datasource with Apache Felix.
Team,
I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a
blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix.
In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting
a direction as how to achive this in felix.
--
Cheers
RamaKrishna RV
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>.
To use a blueprint datasource in pure felix you would need to install
blueprint and its dependencies.
If you do not use blueprint for anything else then I would rather
publish the datasource using a simple bundle with just OSGi API.
Simply create and publish the DataSource in an Activator.
An alternative is to use pax-jdbc. See
https://ops4j1.jira.com/wiki/display/PAXJDBC/Create+DataSource+from+config
It allows to create the DataSource from just a config admin configuration.
Christian
Am 17.12.2014 12:13, schrieb Ramakrishna R:
> Team,
>
> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a
> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix.
> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting
> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Jochen,
In that case, for a 10 years container, what's the difference (in term
of changes and maintenance) between Felix Framework and Karaf Container ?
Regards
JB
On 12/17/2014 03:36 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> The problem with the easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top
> of the framework is, that a real lot of users (including me) cannot
> use it, because their applications *must* run within a
> difficult/inflexible/enterprise ready 10 years ago container. Or, in
> other words: A solution must be available outside Karaf anyways.
>
> Jochen
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom
>> distribution, where you easily assembly what you need.
>> I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a
>> container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an
>> easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very
>> interesting for the users.
>>
>> My $0.02
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>>>
>>> Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has
>>> his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like "just stay with A"
>>> as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf
>>> comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use
>>> case
>>> one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom
>>> Karaf.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Milen
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also
>>>> bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why
>>>> not
>>>> directly using Karaf ;)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
>>>>> comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB
>>>>> with
>>>>> many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in
>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>> It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand
>>>>> what
>>>>> datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In
>>>>> your
>>>>> case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
>>>>> Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
>>>>> some more. Have a look at
>>>>> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/
>>>>> features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
>>>>> to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
>>>>> There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
>>>>> consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may
>>>>> not
>>>>> need to install all of them!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Milen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>> <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No I'm not saying that,
>>>>>> but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource
>>>>>> he'll
>>>>>> need to put all those bundles back in again, in
>>>>>> the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
>>>>>> point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
>>>>>>> just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
>>>>>>> bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not,
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> report the errors you get.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> framework?
>>>>>>>> Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> inside
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>>> So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Aries Project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
>>>>>>>> correctly and installed with your framework.
>>>>>>>> For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
>>>>>>>> bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> need.
>>>>>>>> Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
>>>>>>>> infrastructural glueing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Felix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RamaKrishna RV
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache Member
>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Committer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Apache Member
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>>>>>> &
>>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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>
>
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com>.
The problem with the easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top
of the framework is, that a real lot of users (including me) cannot
use it, because their applications *must* run within a
difficult/inflexible/enterprise ready 10 years ago container. Or, in
other words: A solution must be available outside Karaf anyways.
Jochen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom
> distribution, where you easily assembly what you need.
> I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a
> container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an
> easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very
> interesting for the users.
>
> My $0.02
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>>
>> Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has
>> his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like "just stay with A"
>> as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf
>> comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use
>> case
>> one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom
>> Karaf.
>>
>> Best,
>> Milen
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also
>>> bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why
>>> not
>>> directly using Karaf ;)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>>>
>>>> You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
>>>> comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB
>>>> with
>>>> many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in
>>>> Karaf.
>>>> It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand
>>>> what
>>>> datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In
>>>> your
>>>> case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
>>>> Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
>>>> some more. Have a look at
>>>> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/
>>>> features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
>>>> to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
>>>> There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
>>>> consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may
>>>> not
>>>> need to install all of them!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Milen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>> <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No I'm not saying that,
>>>>> but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource
>>>>> he'll
>>>>> need to put all those bundles back in again, in
>>>>> the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
>>>>> point?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
>>>>>> just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
>>>>>> bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not,
>>>>>> please
>>>>>> report the errors you get.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> its
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> framework?
>>>>>>> Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> inside
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>> So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the Aries Project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
>>>>>>> correctly and installed with your framework.
>>>>>>> For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
>>>>>>> bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> need.
>>>>>>> Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
>>>>>>> infrastructural glueing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Felix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RamaKrishna RV
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache Member
>>>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Committer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> &
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache Member
>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer
>>>>> &
>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>
>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
It makes sense. My point was just about installing a bunch of bundles on
top of Felix to "mimic" what Karaf already provides.
Regards
JB
On 12/17/2014 03:39 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
> Don't get me wrong, I use Karaf myself and I love it. And I'm fully with
> you about easy/flexible/enterprise ready container statement. Just was
> trying to answer the question according to my best knowledge without
> pushing on my personal preferences.
>
> Best,
> Milen
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom
>> distribution, where you easily assembly what you need.
>> I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a
>> container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an
>> easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very
>> interesting for the users.
>>
>> My $0.02
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>>
>>> Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has
>>> his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like "just stay with A"
>>> as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf
>>> comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use
>>> case
>>> one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom
>>> Karaf.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Milen
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also
>>>> bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why
>>>> not
>>>> directly using Karaf ;)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
>>>>> comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB
>>>>> with
>>>>> many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in
>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>> It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand
>>>>> what
>>>>> datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In
>>>>> your
>>>>> case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
>>>>> Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
>>>>> some more. Have a look at
>>>>> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/
>>>>> features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
>>>>> to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
>>>>> There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
>>>>> consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may
>>>>> not
>>>>> need to install all of them!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Milen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck <
>>>>> bcanhome@googlemail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No I'm not saying that,
>>>>>> but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource
>>>>>> he'll
>>>>>> need to put all those bundles back in again, in
>>>>>> the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
>>>>>> point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
>>>>>>> just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
>>>>>>> bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not,
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> report the errors you get.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> framework?
>>>>>>>> Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> inside
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>>> So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Aries Project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
>>>>>>>> correctly and installed with your framework.
>>>>>>>> For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
>>>>>>>> bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> need.
>>>>>>>> Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
>>>>>>>> infrastructural glueing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Felix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RamaKrishna RV
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache Member
>>>>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Committer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache Member
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>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>> Committer
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Milen Dyankov <mi...@gmail.com>.
Don't get me wrong, I use Karaf myself and I love it. And I'm fully with
you about easy/flexible/enterprise ready container statement. Just was
trying to answer the question according to my best knowledge without
pushing on my personal preferences.
Best,
Milen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:
>
> I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom
> distribution, where you easily assembly what you need.
> I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a
> container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an
> easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very
> interesting for the users.
>
> My $0.02
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>
>> Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has
>> his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like "just stay with A"
>> as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf
>> comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use
>> case
>> one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom
>> Karaf.
>>
>> Best,
>> Milen
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also
>>> bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why
>>> not
>>> directly using Karaf ;)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>>>
>>> You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
>>>> comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB
>>>> with
>>>> many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in
>>>> Karaf.
>>>> It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand
>>>> what
>>>> datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In
>>>> your
>>>> case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
>>>> Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
>>>> some more. Have a look at
>>>> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/
>>>> features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
>>>> to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
>>>> There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
>>>> consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may
>>>> not
>>>> need to install all of them!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Milen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck <
>>>> bcanhome@googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No I'm not saying that,
>>>>> but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource
>>>>> he'll
>>>>> need to put all those bundles back in again, in
>>>>> the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
>>>>> point?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
>>>>>> just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
>>>>>> bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not,
>>>>>> please
>>>>>> report the errors you get.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>
>>>>>> framework?
>>>>>>> Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> inside
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>>> So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the Aries Project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
>>>>>>> correctly and installed with your framework.
>>>>>>> For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
>>>>>>> bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>
>>>>>> need.
>>>>>>> Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
>>>>>>> infrastructural glueing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Felix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RamaKrishna RV
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache Member
>>>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Committer
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> &
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache Member
>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>> Committer
>>>>> &
>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>
>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom
distribution, where you easily assembly what you need.
I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a
container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an
easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very
interesting for the users.
My $0.02
Regards
JB
On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
> Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has
> his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like "just stay with A"
> as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf
> comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use case
> one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom
> Karaf.
>
> Best,
> Milen
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also
>> bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why not
>> directly using Karaf ;)
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>>
>>> You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
>>> comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with
>>> many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in Karaf.
>>> It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand
>>> what
>>> datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your
>>> case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
>>> Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
>>> some more. Have a look at
>>> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/
>>> features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
>>> to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
>>> There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
>>> consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may
>>> not
>>> need to install all of them!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Milen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> No I'm not saying that,
>>>> but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll
>>>> need to put all those bundles back in again, in
>>>> the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
>>>> point?
>>>>
>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>
>>>> 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
>>>>> just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
>>>>>
>>>>> RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
>>>>> bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please
>>>>> report the errors you get.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as
>>>>>>
>>>>> its
>>>>>
>>>>>> framework?
>>>>>> Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
>>>>>>
>>>>> inside
>>>>>
>>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>>> So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
>>>>>>
>>>>> at
>>>>
>>>>> the Aries Project.
>>>>>> Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
>>>>>> correctly and installed with your framework.
>>>>>> For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
>>>>>> bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
>>>>>>
>>>>> would
>>>>>
>>>>>> need.
>>>>>> Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
>>>>>> infrastructural glueing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Felix.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>
>>>>>> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RamaKrishna RV
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache Member
>>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Committer
>>>>
>>>>> &
>>>>>
>>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@felix.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@felix.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Apache Member
>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer
>>>> &
>>>> Project Lead
>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>
>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>>
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Milen Dyankov <mi...@gmail.com>.
Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has
his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like "just stay with A"
as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf
comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use case
one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom
Karaf.
Best,
Milen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also
> bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why not
> directly using Karaf ;)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
>
>> You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
>> comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with
>> many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in Karaf.
>> It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand
>> what
>> datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your
>> case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
>> Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
>> some more. Have a look at
>> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/
>> features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
>> to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
>> There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
>> consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may
>> not
>> need to install all of them!
>>
>> Best,
>> Milen
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> No I'm not saying that,
>>> but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll
>>> need to put all those bundles back in again, in
>>> the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
>>> point?
>>>
>>> regards, Achim
>>>
>>> 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
>>>> just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
>>>>
>>>> RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
>>>> bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please
>>>> report the errors you get.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as
>>>>>
>>>> its
>>>>
>>>>> framework?
>>>>> Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
>>>>>
>>>> inside
>>>>
>>>>> Karaf.
>>>>> So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
>>>>>
>>>> at
>>>
>>>> the Aries Project.
>>>>> Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
>>>>> correctly and installed with your framework.
>>>>> For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
>>>>> bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
>>>>>
>>>> would
>>>>
>>>>> need.
>>>>> Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
>>>>> infrastructural glueing?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have
>>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>
>>>> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
>>>>>>
>>>>> Felix.
>>>>
>>>>> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
>>>>>>
>>>>> getting
>>>>
>>>>> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RamaKrishna RV
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache Member
>>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>>>>>
>>>> Committer
>>>
>>>> &
>>>>
>>>>> Project Lead
>>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>>
>>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Apache Member
>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer
>>> &
>>> Project Lead
>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>
>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi guys,
if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also
bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why
not directly using Karaf ;)
Regards
JB
On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote:
> You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
> comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with
> many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in Karaf.
> It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand what
> datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your
> case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
> Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
> some more. Have a look at
> https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
> to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
> There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
> consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may not
> need to install all of them!
>
> Best,
> Milen
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> No I'm not saying that,
>> but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll
>> need to put all those bundles back in again, in
>> the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
>> point?
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>> 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
>>> just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
>>>
>>> RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
>>> bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please
>>> report the errors you get.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>> On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as
>>> its
>>>> framework?
>>>> Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
>>> inside
>>>> Karaf.
>>>> So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
>> at
>>>> the Aries Project.
>>>> Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
>>>> correctly and installed with your framework.
>>>> For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
>>>> bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
>>>> ...
>>>> I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
>>> would
>>>> need.
>>>> Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
>>>> infrastructural glueing?
>>>>
>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>
>>>> 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Team,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have
>> a
>>>>> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
>>> Felix.
>>>>> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
>>> getting
>>>>> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> RamaKrishna RV
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Apache Member
>>>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>>>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/>
>> Committer
>>> &
>>>> Project Lead
>>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>>>
>>>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Apache Member
>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer &
>> Project Lead
>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>
>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>
>
>
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Milen Dyankov <mi...@gmail.com>.
You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly
comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with
many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource "works" in Karaf.
It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand what
datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your
case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config.
Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need
some more. Have a look at
https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml
to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations.
There you'll see a "jdbc", "jpa", ... features and what bundles they
consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may not
need to install all of them!
Best,
Milen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
>
> No I'm not saying that,
> but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll
> need to put all those bundles back in again, in
> the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the
> point?
>
> regards, Achim
>
> 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
> > just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
> >
> > RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
> > bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please
> > report the errors you get.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Neil
> >
> > > On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as
> > its
> > > framework?
> > > Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
> > inside
> > > Karaf.
> > > So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found
> at
> > > the Aries Project.
> > > Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
> > > correctly and installed with your framework.
> > > For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
> > > bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
> > > ...
> > > I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
> > would
> > > need.
> > > Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
> > > infrastructural glueing?
> > >
> > > regards, Achim
> > >
> > > 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> Team,
> > >>
> > >> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have
> a
> > >> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
> > Felix.
> > >> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
> > getting
> > >> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Cheers
> > >>
> > >> RamaKrishna RV
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
No I'm not saying that,
but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll
need to put all those bundles back in again, in
the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the point?
regards, Achim
2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>:
>
> Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack
> just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
>
> RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource
> bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please
> report the errors you get.
>
> Regards,
> Neil
>
> > On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as
> its
> > framework?
> > Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used
> inside
> > Karaf.
> > So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at
> > the Aries Project.
> > Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
> > correctly and installed with your framework.
> > For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
> > bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
> > ...
> > I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely
> would
> > need.
> > Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
> > infrastructural glueing?
> >
> > regards, Achim
> >
> > 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> Team,
> >>
> >> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a
> >> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in
> Felix.
> >> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not
> getting
> >> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> RamaKrishna RV
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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> > OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer
> &
> > Project Lead
> > blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
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> >
> > Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Neil Bartlett <nj...@gmail.com>.
Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts.
RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please report the errors you get.
Regards,
Neil
> On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its
> framework?
> Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside
> Karaf.
> So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at
> the Aries Project.
> Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
> correctly and installed with your framework.
> For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
> bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
> ...
> I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would
> need.
> Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
> infrastructural glueing?
>
> regards, Achim
>
> 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Team,
>>
>> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a
>> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix.
>> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting
>> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>>
>> RamaKrishna RV
>>
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its
framework?
Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside
Karaf.
So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at
the Aries Project.
Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured
correctly and installed with your framework.
For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of
bundles that need to be part of the "basic" setup.
...
I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would
need.
Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this
infrastructural glueing?
regards, Achim
2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R <ra...@gmail.com>:
>
> Team,
>
> I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a
> blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix.
> In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting
> a direction as how to achive this in felix.
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> RamaKrishna RV
>
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Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
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