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Struts 1 or Struts 2
Hi All,
I have a small query and hope that here i can get the best answer of my
query. ihave just started learning Struts 2.
the purpose of learning struts is simple i have some projects at my end
which i want to develop using this framework.
My purpose is also to learn this technology as much as possible.
My only confusion is which one should i opt as both are new for me and one
more thing time is not much constraint for the development of project.
Please suggest me the best possible options which will help in my learning
curve and well as my professional aspect.
Thanks in advance..
--aum
Re: Struts 1 or Struts 2
Posted by aum strut <au...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Ted,
I think that you have cleared all my doubts in the last line.
:)
-Aum
On Jan 10, 2008 6:31 PM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2008 11:31 PM, aum strut <au...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > is there much diffreence between Struts1 and Struts2?
>
> The implementation details are different (in a good way!), but both
> use the same architectural paradigms.
>
> Struts 1 uses an ActionForm for input value and a singleton Action to
> process the values. Struts 2 uses an requested-based Action for both.
> Struts 1 can only use string-input. Struts 2 can use native types and
> POJO classes. Struts 1 uses a chain of command to process requests
> (one per application). Struts 2 uses sets of interceptors that can be
> changed for individual actions. And so forth. But, in most cases it's
> a one:one evolution, rather than a totally different way of doing
> things.
>
> People who try Struts 2 after using Struts 1, tend to find it to be a
> welcome change.
>
> If someone were to apply for a S1 project, S2 experience would
> probably be a plus, since most everyone would at least be thinking
> about migrating someday.
>
> HTH, Ted
> <http://www.StrutsMentor.com/ <http://www.strutsmentor.com/>>
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Re: Struts 1 or Struts 2
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
On Jan 9, 2008 11:31 PM, aum strut <au...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is there much diffreence between Struts1 and Struts2?
The implementation details are different (in a good way!), but both
use the same architectural paradigms.
Struts 1 uses an ActionForm for input value and a singleton Action to
process the values. Struts 2 uses an requested-based Action for both.
Struts 1 can only use string-input. Struts 2 can use native types and
POJO classes. Struts 1 uses a chain of command to process requests
(one per application). Struts 2 uses sets of interceptors that can be
changed for individual actions. And so forth. But, in most cases it's
a one:one evolution, rather than a totally different way of doing
things.
People who try Struts 2 after using Struts 1, tend to find it to be a
welcome change.
If someone were to apply for a S1 project, S2 experience would
probably be a plus, since most everyone would at least be thinking
about migrating someday.
HTH, Ted
<http://www.StrutsMentor.com/>
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Re: Struts 1 or Struts 2
Posted by aum strut <au...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for helping me out.
yes there are only 0.1% chances that my company will shift for this
technology but one thing is sure that i am very much interested in this
platform and will surely going to look for the opportunites in this area.
more over i want to mention here that my keen interest in not in developing
applications using this platform(but i have to develop applications ;)), but
my interest is in core programming.
-aum
On Jan 10, 2008 5:37 PM, Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>
wrote:
> I would say then if you will not be looking for a new job at all soon,
> then
> forget struts1 and concentrate on struts2, especially if there is a chance
> that
> your company might start a project or convert a project to it.
>
> However if you will specialize in web applications and you will be looking
> for
> work soon, learn the basics of struts1 and 2, but specialize in struts2.
>
> aum strut on 10/01/08 11:44, wrote:
> > Hi Adam,
> >
> > Currently i am working in java platform and have around 18 months of
> working
> > experience.
> > but this technology is new to me and yes i need to learn these
> tecnnology in
> > order to enhance my career and also to work side by side on my own as we
> are
> > not using this platform at my work place.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --Aum
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2008 4:32 PM, Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> From a career point-of-view, there are different factors affecting
> this,
> >> including whether you are looking for permanent positions or contract
> >> work, what
> >> the local job market is like where you are, and what sort of jobs you
> >> would
> >> apply for.
> >>
> >> In a consultancy for instance, you are more likely to need Struts1 I
> >> think, but
> >> as a freelancer working on new projects, maybe Struts2 or Spring MVC
> (or
> >> even
> >> Spring Webflow). But then if you are a recent graduate, you may not be
> >> expected
> >> to know either.
> >>
> >> There is even an argument that you should learn both (if learning is
> more
> >> a
> >> priority rather than finishing a project).
> >>
> >> I guess I am not giving you any answers, sorry.
> >>
> >> aum strut on 10/01/08 04:31, wrote:
> >>> Hi Ted,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the response.
> >>> The point of my confusion was that i came to know from some where that
> >>> Struts1 is more demanding in the market than Struts2.
> >>>
> >>> is there much diffreence between Struts1 and Struts2?
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 9, 2008 7:15 PM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In this case, I'd suggest Struts 2.
> >>>>
> >>>> HTH, Ted
> >>>> * <http://www.StrutsMentor.com/ <http://www.strutsmentor.com/> <
> http://www.strutsmentor.com/> <
> >> http://www.strutsmentor.com/>>
> >> >>
> >>>> On Jan 9, 2008 6:32 AM, aum strut <au...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a small query and hope that here i can get the best answer of
> >> my
> >>>>> query. ihave just started learning Struts 2.
> >>>>> the purpose of learning struts is simple i have some projects at my
> >> end
> >>>>> which i want to develop using this framework.
> >>>>> My purpose is also to learn this technology as much as possible.
> >>>>> My only confusion is which one should i opt as both are new for me
> and
> >>>> one
> >>>>> more thing time is not much constraint for the development of
> project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please suggest me the best possible options which will help in my
> >>>> learning
> >>>>> curve and well as my professional aspect.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks in advance..
> >>>>> --aum
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Re: Struts 1 or Struts 2
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
I would say then if you will not be looking for a new job at all soon, then
forget struts1 and concentrate on struts2, especially if there is a chance that
your company might start a project or convert a project to it.
However if you will specialize in web applications and you will be looking for
work soon, learn the basics of struts1 and 2, but specialize in struts2.
aum strut on 10/01/08 11:44, wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>
> Currently i am working in java platform and have around 18 months of working
> experience.
> but this technology is new to me and yes i need to learn these tecnnology in
> order to enhance my career and also to work side by side on my own as we are
> not using this platform at my work place.
>
>
> Thanks,
> --Aum
>
> On Jan 10, 2008 4:32 PM, Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>
> wrote:
>
>> From a career point-of-view, there are different factors affecting this,
>> including whether you are looking for permanent positions or contract
>> work, what
>> the local job market is like where you are, and what sort of jobs you
>> would
>> apply for.
>>
>> In a consultancy for instance, you are more likely to need Struts1 I
>> think, but
>> as a freelancer working on new projects, maybe Struts2 or Spring MVC (or
>> even
>> Spring Webflow). But then if you are a recent graduate, you may not be
>> expected
>> to know either.
>>
>> There is even an argument that you should learn both (if learning is more
>> a
>> priority rather than finishing a project).
>>
>> I guess I am not giving you any answers, sorry.
>>
>> aum strut on 10/01/08 04:31, wrote:
>>> Hi Ted,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response.
>>> The point of my confusion was that i came to know from some where that
>>> Struts1 is more demanding in the market than Struts2.
>>>
>>> is there much diffreence between Struts1 and Struts2?
>>>
>>> On Jan 9, 2008 7:15 PM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In this case, I'd suggest Struts 2.
>>>>
>>>> HTH, Ted
>>>> * <http://www.StrutsMentor.com/ <http://www.strutsmentor.com/> <
>> http://www.strutsmentor.com/>>
>> >>
>>>> On Jan 9, 2008 6:32 AM, aum strut <au...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a small query and hope that here i can get the best answer of
>> my
>>>>> query. ihave just started learning Struts 2.
>>>>> the purpose of learning struts is simple i have some projects at my
>> end
>>>>> which i want to develop using this framework.
>>>>> My purpose is also to learn this technology as much as possible.
>>>>> My only confusion is which one should i opt as both are new for me and
>>>> one
>>>>> more thing time is not much constraint for the development of project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please suggest me the best possible options which will help in my
>>>> learning
>>>>> curve and well as my professional aspect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance..
>>>>> --aum
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Re: Struts 1 or Struts 2
Posted by aum strut <au...@gmail.com>.
Hi Adam,
Currently i am working in java platform and have around 18 months of working
experience.
but this technology is new to me and yes i need to learn these tecnnology in
order to enhance my career and also to work side by side on my own as we are
not using this platform at my work place.
Thanks,
--Aum
On Jan 10, 2008 4:32 PM, Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>
wrote:
> From a career point-of-view, there are different factors affecting this,
> including whether you are looking for permanent positions or contract
> work, what
> the local job market is like where you are, and what sort of jobs you
> would
> apply for.
>
> In a consultancy for instance, you are more likely to need Struts1 I
> think, but
> as a freelancer working on new projects, maybe Struts2 or Spring MVC (or
> even
> Spring Webflow). But then if you are a recent graduate, you may not be
> expected
> to know either.
>
> There is even an argument that you should learn both (if learning is more
> a
> priority rather than finishing a project).
>
> I guess I am not giving you any answers, sorry.
>
> aum strut on 10/01/08 04:31, wrote:
> > Hi Ted,
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> > The point of my confusion was that i came to know from some where that
> > Struts1 is more demanding in the market than Struts2.
> >
> > is there much diffreence between Struts1 and Struts2?
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2008 7:15 PM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> In this case, I'd suggest Struts 2.
> >>
> >> HTH, Ted
> >> * <http://www.StrutsMentor.com/ <http://www.strutsmentor.com/> <
> http://www.strutsmentor.com/>>
> >>
> >> On Jan 9, 2008 6:32 AM, aum strut <au...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I have a small query and hope that here i can get the best answer of
> my
> >>> query. ihave just started learning Struts 2.
> >>> the purpose of learning struts is simple i have some projects at my
> end
> >>> which i want to develop using this framework.
> >>> My purpose is also to learn this technology as much as possible.
> >>> My only confusion is which one should i opt as both are new for me and
> >> one
> >>> more thing time is not much constraint for the development of project.
> >>>
> >>> Please suggest me the best possible options which will help in my
> >> learning
> >>> curve and well as my professional aspect.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance..
> >>> --aum
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> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Struts 1 or Struts 2
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
From a career point-of-view, there are different factors affecting this,
including whether you are looking for permanent positions or contract work, what
the local job market is like where you are, and what sort of jobs you would
apply for.
In a consultancy for instance, you are more likely to need Struts1 I think, but
as a freelancer working on new projects, maybe Struts2 or Spring MVC (or even
Spring Webflow). But then if you are a recent graduate, you may not be expected
to know either.
There is even an argument that you should learn both (if learning is more a
priority rather than finishing a project).
I guess I am not giving you any answers, sorry.
aum strut on 10/01/08 04:31, wrote:
> Hi Ted,
>
> Thanks for the response.
> The point of my confusion was that i came to know from some where that
> Struts1 is more demanding in the market than Struts2.
>
> is there much diffreence between Struts1 and Struts2?
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 7:15 PM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> In this case, I'd suggest Struts 2.
>>
>> HTH, Ted
>> * <http://www.StrutsMentor.com/ <http://www.strutsmentor.com/>>
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2008 6:32 AM, aum strut <au...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have a small query and hope that here i can get the best answer of my
>>> query. ihave just started learning Struts 2.
>>> the purpose of learning struts is simple i have some projects at my end
>>> which i want to develop using this framework.
>>> My purpose is also to learn this technology as much as possible.
>>> My only confusion is which one should i opt as both are new for me and
>> one
>>> more thing time is not much constraint for the development of project.
>>>
>>> Please suggest me the best possible options which will help in my
>> learning
>>> curve and well as my professional aspect.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance..
>>> --aum
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Re: Struts 1 or Struts 2
Posted by aum strut <au...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ted,
Thanks for the response.
The point of my confusion was that i came to know from some where that
Struts1 is more demanding in the market than Struts2.
is there much diffreence between Struts1 and Struts2?
On Jan 9, 2008 7:15 PM, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> In this case, I'd suggest Struts 2.
>
> HTH, Ted
> * <http://www.StrutsMentor.com/ <http://www.strutsmentor.com/>>
>
> On Jan 9, 2008 6:32 AM, aum strut <au...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have a small query and hope that here i can get the best answer of my
> > query. ihave just started learning Struts 2.
> > the purpose of learning struts is simple i have some projects at my end
> > which i want to develop using this framework.
> > My purpose is also to learn this technology as much as possible.
> > My only confusion is which one should i opt as both are new for me and
> one
> > more thing time is not much constraint for the development of project.
> >
> > Please suggest me the best possible options which will help in my
> learning
> > curve and well as my professional aspect.
> >
> > Thanks in advance..
> > --aum
>
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Re: Struts 1 or Struts 2
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
In this case, I'd suggest Struts 2.
HTH, Ted
* <http://www.StrutsMentor.com/>
On Jan 9, 2008 6:32 AM, aum strut <au...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have a small query and hope that here i can get the best answer of my
> query. ihave just started learning Struts 2.
> the purpose of learning struts is simple i have some projects at my end
> which i want to develop using this framework.
> My purpose is also to learn this technology as much as possible.
> My only confusion is which one should i opt as both are new for me and one
> more thing time is not much constraint for the development of project.
>
> Please suggest me the best possible options which will help in my learning
> curve and well as my professional aspect.
>
> Thanks in advance..
> --aum
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