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Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Greetings,

   I am trying to mount a subversion 1.1.0 repository running on linux 
with apache httpd-2.0.52 as a WebFolder under Windows XP Professional.  
I am able view the repository through a web browser, but not able to 
mount under XP.  I can, however, mount it from Mac OS X without any 
issues.  I can add the share successfully, but when I attempt to expand 
it under My Network Places, I get a dialog:

\\webdav.contegix.com\svn is not accessible.  You might not have 
permission to use this network resource.  Contact the administrator of 
this server to find out if you have access permissions.
The network path was not found.

An excerpt from the Apache config is as follows:

     DavLockDB /var/lib/apache2/DavLock
     <Location /svn>
         DAV svn
         SVNPath /opt/svn/root/contegix/test
         SVNAutoversioning on
         ForceType text/plain
         Order Allow,Deny
         Allow from all
     </Location>

   At this time, I have authentication turned off to rule out any 
problem related to that.  Also, it is publicly available at 
http://webdav.contegix.com/svn in case someone can rule out the 
possibility that it is a problem with my Windows environment.  There is 
nothing logged to error log and access log just shows:

63.246.15.189 - - [14/Oct/2004:12:11:44 -0500] "PROPFIND /svn HTTP/1.1" 
207 1198 "-" "Microsoft-WebDAV-MiniRedir/5.1.2600"
63.246.15.189 - - [14/Oct/2004:12:11:44 -0500] "PROPFIND /svn HTTP/1.1" 
207 1198 "-" "Microsoft-WebDAV-MiniRedir/5.1.2600"

   Any help on this is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
-craig


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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com>.
On Oct 14, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:

> Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 
> 02:32:48
> PM:
>
>>    I managed to track down a box which still had Windows 2000 on it, 
>> and
>
>> created the link, added it to the WebDAV, pulled the .lnk on the XP
>> box, and it works.  Well, sort of.  Functionally it works, but it is
>> UNBEARABLY slow.  It seems that the problem of it not working at all
>> goes beyond XP boxes that are member of a NT Domain, because this one
>> is most certainly not.
>>
>>    Now, has anyone else noticed the unbearably slow speed?  Is it a
>> problem with my apache configuration?  The share is still available at
>> http://webdav.contegix.com/svn if anyone who has done this before has
>> something else to compare it to.  For convenience, the .lnk file is on
>> the share
>
> Could this be the svn ls performance problem with 1.1.0 and 1.0.8?
>
> FWIW, I just accessed your site from my XP system and it seemed
> super-fast.  I just did Add Network place and entered this URL:
>
> http://webdav.contegix.com:80/svn  <-- note the :80

THAT was the missing piece of the puzzle.  Damn you Microsoft!  Just 
because I don't specify the port (when it's the default) it doesn't 
work?  Ugh!  :-(

Once past this, I still had SERIOUS performance problems on my XP box, 
but have tried on other XP boxes that I could get my hands on, and it 
worked great.  Thanks for your help!

Cheers,
-craig



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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Mark Phippard <Ma...@softlanding.com>.
Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 02:32:48 
PM:

>    I managed to track down a box which still had Windows 2000 on it, and 

> created the link, added it to the WebDAV, pulled the .lnk on the XP 
> box, and it works.  Well, sort of.  Functionally it works, but it is 
> UNBEARABLY slow.  It seems that the problem of it not working at all 
> goes beyond XP boxes that are member of a NT Domain, because this one 
> is most certainly not.
> 
>    Now, has anyone else noticed the unbearably slow speed?  Is it a 
> problem with my apache configuration?  The share is still available at 
> http://webdav.contegix.com/svn if anyone who has done this before has 
> something else to compare it to.  For convenience, the .lnk file is on 
> the share

Could this be the svn ls performance problem with 1.1.0 and 1.0.8? 

FWIW, I just accessed your site from my XP system and it seemed 
super-fast.  I just did Add Network place and entered this URL:

http://webdav.contegix.com:80/svn  <-- note the :80

I then copied a file named c.txt to my disk.  Edited it, and copied it 
back.

Mark



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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com>.
On Oct 14, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:

> Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 
> 01:35:53
> PM:
>
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity, did you check the link I sent, or just assume I was
>>> telling you to go read the book?  The link I sent is to a relatively
>>> new
>>> entry about the feature not working on XP.  The only workaround
>>> proposed
>>> is that you can create the shortcut on a Win2K system and copy it to
>>> an XP
>>> system.
>>>
>>> Your reply makes me think you thought that I was pointing you to the
>>> instructions on setting up autoversioning and WevDAV in general.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I did check the link.  I had read the latest version of the 1.1 book.
>> The section seems to imply that there are problems when an XP box is a
>> member of an NT Domain, which this one is not.  Are there also known
>> problems when NOT a member of an NT Domain?
>>
>
> I am not sure.  I just remember the issue being talked about and the 
> patch
> being submitted, so I looked it up for you in case you hadn't read it.
>
> It seems like the primary problem is that the .lnk file was not created
> correctly by XP.  Perhaps you could try the approach of editing the 
> file?
>
> Also, came across this when searching.
>
> http://www.contactor.se/~dast/svnusers/archive-2004-06/0436.shtml
>
> Mark
>

   I managed to track down a box which still had Windows 2000 on it, and 
created the link, added it to the WebDAV, pulled the .lnk on the XP 
box, and it works.  Well, sort of.  Functionally it works, but it is 
UNBEARABLY slow.  It seems that the problem of it not working at all 
goes beyond XP boxes that are member of a NT Domain, because this one 
is most certainly not.

   Now, has anyone else noticed the unbearably slow speed?  Is it a 
problem with my apache configuration?  The share is still available at 
http://webdav.contegix.com/svn if anyone who has done this before has 
something else to compare it to.  For convenience, the .lnk file is on 
the share

> PS - If you are involved with the Metissian Subversion packages for OS 
> X
> -- thank you!!

   Yep, that would be me.  You are very welcome!

Cheers,
-craig


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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Mark Phippard <Ma...@softlanding.com>.
Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 01:35:53 
PM:

> >
> > Out of curiosity, did you check the link I sent, or just assume I was
> > telling you to go read the book?  The link I sent is to a relatively 
> > new
> > entry about the feature not working on XP.  The only workaround 
> > proposed
> > is that you can create the shortcut on a Win2K system and copy it to 
> > an XP
> > system.
> >
> > Your reply makes me think you thought that I was pointing you to the
> > instructions on setting up autoversioning and WevDAV in general.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> 
> Mark,
> 
> I did check the link.  I had read the latest version of the 1.1 book. 
> The section seems to imply that there are problems when an XP box is a 
> member of an NT Domain, which this one is not.  Are there also known 
> problems when NOT a member of an NT Domain?
> 

I am not sure.  I just remember the issue being talked about and the patch 
being submitted, so I looked it up for you in case you hadn't read it.

It seems like the primary problem is that the .lnk file was not created 
correctly by XP.  Perhaps you could try the approach of editing the file?

Also, came across this when searching.

http://www.contactor.se/~dast/svnusers/archive-2004-06/0436.shtml

Mark

PS - If you are involved with the Metissian Subversion packages for OS X 
-- thank you!!



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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com>.
On Oct 14, 2004, at 12:27 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:

> Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 
> 01:23:06
> PM:
>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2004, at 12:18 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>>
>>> Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004
>>> 01:14:44
>>> PM:
>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>    I am trying to mount a subversion 1.1.0 repository running on
> linux
>>>> with apache httpd-2.0.52 as a WebFolder under Windows XP
> Professional.
>>>> I am able view the repository through a web browser, but not able to
>>>> mount under XP.  I can, however, mount it from Mac OS X without any
>>>> issues.  I can add the share successfully, but when I attempt to
>>>> expand
>>>> it under My Network Places, I get a dialog:
>>>
>>> Check this entry from the book and see if it helps:
>>>
>>> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/svnbook-1.1/apcs03.html#svn-ap-c-sect-3.1
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
>> I read that before ever trying, and I believe that I have it setup the
>> way that the book shows.
>>
>> Cheers,
>
> Out of curiosity, did you check the link I sent, or just assume I was
> telling you to go read the book?  The link I sent is to a relatively 
> new
> entry about the feature not working on XP.  The only workaround 
> proposed
> is that you can create the shortcut on a Win2K system and copy it to 
> an XP
> system.
>
> Your reply makes me think you thought that I was pointing you to the
> instructions on setting up autoversioning and WevDAV in general.
>
> Mark
>

Mark,

I did check the link.  I had read the latest version of the 1.1 book.  
The section seems to imply that there are problems when an XP box is a 
member of an NT Domain, which this one is not.  Are there also known 
problems when NOT a member of an NT Domain?

Cheers,
-craig


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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Mark Phippard <Ma...@softlanding.com>.
Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 01:23:06 
PM:

> 
> On Oct 14, 2004, at 12:18 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> 
> > Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 
> > 01:14:44
> > PM:
> >
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >>    I am trying to mount a subversion 1.1.0 repository running on 
linux
> >> with apache httpd-2.0.52 as a WebFolder under Windows XP 
Professional.
> >> I am able view the repository through a web browser, but not able to
> >> mount under XP.  I can, however, mount it from Mac OS X without any
> >> issues.  I can add the share successfully, but when I attempt to 
> >> expand
> >> it under My Network Places, I get a dialog:
> >
> > Check this entry from the book and see if it helps:
> >
> > http://svnbook.red-bean.com/svnbook-1.1/apcs03.html#svn-ap-c-sect-3.1
> >
> > Mark
> 
> I read that before ever trying, and I believe that I have it setup the 
> way that the book shows.
> 
> Cheers,

Out of curiosity, did you check the link I sent, or just assume I was 
telling you to go read the book?  The link I sent is to a relatively new 
entry about the feature not working on XP.  The only workaround proposed 
is that you can create the shortcut on a Win2K system and copy it to an XP 
system. 

Your reply makes me think you thought that I was pointing you to the 
instructions on setting up autoversioning and WevDAV in general.

Mark


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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com>.
On Oct 14, 2004, at 12:18 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:

> Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004  
> 01:14:44
> PM:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>    I am trying to mount a subversion 1.1.0 repository running on linux
>> with apache httpd-2.0.52 as a WebFolder under Windows XP Professional.
>> I am able view the repository through a web browser, but not able to
>> mount under XP.  I can, however, mount it from Mac OS X without any
>> issues.  I can add the share successfully, but when I attempt to  
>> expand
>> it under My Network Places, I get a dialog:
>
> Check this entry from the book and see if it helps:
>
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/svnbook-1.1/apcs03.html#svn-ap-c-sect-3.1
>
> Mark
>
>
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I read that before ever trying, and I believe that I have it setup the  
way that the book shows.

Cheers,
-craig


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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Alexis Boutillier <al...@arteris.net>.
I had the same problem with webdav and Windows XP Pro.

The solution is to add a "#" at the end of the url of your webdav
folder. This prevent windows XP from defaulting the passorwd to a domain
password (ie: login:"\\MACHINE\user" instead of "user")

for a webdav folder under "http://intranet/dav/" you have to open it in
share with "http://intranet/dav/#"

I doesn't test it with dav svn but it must be the same windows problem.

On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 19:18, Mark Phippard wrote:
> Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 01:14:44 
> PM:
> 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> >    I am trying to mount a subversion 1.1.0 repository running on linux 
> > with apache httpd-2.0.52 as a WebFolder under Windows XP Professional. 
> > I am able view the repository through a web browser, but not able to 
> > mount under XP.  I can, however, mount it from Mac OS X without any 
> > issues.  I can add the share successfully, but when I attempt to expand 
> > it under My Network Places, I get a dialog:
> 
> Check this entry from the book and see if it helps:
> 
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/svnbook-1.1/apcs03.html#svn-ap-c-sect-3.1
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Alexis Boutillier <al...@arteris.net>.
I had the same problem with webdav and Windows XP Pro.

The solution is to add a "#" at the end of the url of your webdav
folder. This prevent windows XP from defaulting the passorwd to a domain
password (ie: login:"\\MACHINE\user" instead of "user")

for a webdav folder under "http://intranet/dav/" you have to open it in
share with "http://intranet/dav/#"

I doesn't test it with dav svn but it must be the same windows problem.

On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 19:18, Mark Phippard wrote:
> Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 01:14:44 
> PM:
> 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> >    I am trying to mount a subversion 1.1.0 repository running on linux 
> > with apache httpd-2.0.52 as a WebFolder under Windows XP Professional. 
> > I am able view the repository through a web browser, but not able to 
> > mount under XP.  I can, however, mount it from Mac OS X without any 
> > issues.  I can add the share successfully, but when I attempt to expand 
> > it under My Network Places, I get a dialog:
> 
> Check this entry from the book and see if it helps:
> 
> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/svnbook-1.1/apcs03.html#svn-ap-c-sect-3.1
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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www.arteris.net

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France
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Re: Problems with Autoversioning and WebDAV with Windows XP

Posted by Mark Phippard <Ma...@softlanding.com>.
Craig McElroy <cr...@metissian.com> wrote on 10/14/2004 01:14:44 
PM:

> Greetings,
> 
>    I am trying to mount a subversion 1.1.0 repository running on linux 
> with apache httpd-2.0.52 as a WebFolder under Windows XP Professional. 
> I am able view the repository through a web browser, but not able to 
> mount under XP.  I can, however, mount it from Mac OS X without any 
> issues.  I can add the share successfully, but when I attempt to expand 
> it under My Network Places, I get a dialog:

Check this entry from the book and see if it helps:

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/svnbook-1.1/apcs03.html#svn-ap-c-sect-3.1

Mark


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