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Posted to dev@felix.apache.org by Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com> on 2018/11/22 14:12:01 UTC
[DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
(for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
Felix as well.
Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
regards,
Karl
[0] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d4a5640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
[1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
[3] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
--
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
Posted by Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com>.
I don't think it's a bad idea. I kind of like it.
I have some ideas as well once the project is at Felix. But I'll leave
those for if that happens ;)
So +1 for me,
- Ray
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 9:12 AM Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
> contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
>
> You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
> contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
> move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
> (for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
>
> Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
> one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
> that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
> would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
> Felix as well.
>
> Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
> somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
>
> regards,
>
> Karl
>
> [0]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d4a5640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
> [2]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> [3]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> --
> Karl Pauls
> karlpauls@gmail.com
>
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(@Liferay)
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Re: [DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
Posted by Georg Henzler <fe...@ghenzler.de>.
+1 from my side as well
Sent from my iPhone
> On 23. Nov 2018, at 08:22, Andrei Dulvac <du...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> +1 from me as well. And I'd like to contribute to maintaining it.
>
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 18:09 Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 from me too
>>
>> I can help with the integration into felix once we have consensus to accept
>> he health checks.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> Am Do., 22. Nov. 2018 um 15:12 Uhr schrieb Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com
>>> :
>>
>>> I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
>>> contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
>>>
>>> You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
>>> contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
>>> move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
>>> (for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
>>>
>>> Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
>>> one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
>>> that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
>>> would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
>>> Felix as well.
>>>
>>> Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
>>> somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> [0]
>>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d4a5640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
>>> [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
>>> [2]
>>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
>>> [3]
>>>
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
>>> --
>>> Karl Pauls
>>> karlpauls@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Christian Schneider
>> http://www.liquid-reality.de
>>
>> Computer Scientist
>> http://www.adobe.com
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
Posted by Andrei Dulvac <du...@apache.org>.
+1 from me as well. And I'd like to contribute to maintaining it.
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 18:09 Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>
wrote:
> +1 from me too
>
> I can help with the integration into felix once we have consensus to accept
> he health checks.
>
> Christian
>
> Am Do., 22. Nov. 2018 um 15:12 Uhr schrieb Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com
> >:
>
> > I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
> > contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
> >
> > You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
> > contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
> > move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
> > (for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
> >
> > Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
> > one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
> > that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
> > would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
> > Felix as well.
> >
> > Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
> > somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > [0]
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d4a5640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> > [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
> > [2]
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> > [3]
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> > --
> > Karl Pauls
> > karlpauls@gmail.com
> >
>
>
> --
> --
> Christian Schneider
> http://www.liquid-reality.de
>
> Computer Scientist
> http://www.adobe.com
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
Posted by Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net>.
+1 from me too
I can help with the integration into felix once we have consensus to accept
he health checks.
Christian
Am Do., 22. Nov. 2018 um 15:12 Uhr schrieb Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>:
> I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
> contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
>
> You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
> contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
> move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
> (for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
>
> Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
> one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
> that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
> would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
> Felix as well.
>
> Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
> somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
>
> regards,
>
> Karl
>
> [0]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d4a5640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
> [2]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> [3]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> --
> Karl Pauls
> karlpauls@gmail.com
>
--
--
Christian Schneider
http://www.liquid-reality.de
Computer Scientist
http://www.adobe.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Karl,
thanks for bringing back the discussion. I like the idea and it's worth
to do the effort (with several people) to animate this subproject.
Regards
JB
On 22/11/2018 15:12, Karl Pauls wrote:
> I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
> contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
>
> You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
> contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
> move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
> (for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
>
> Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
> one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
> that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
> would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
> Felix as well.
>
> Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
> somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
>
> regards,
>
> Karl
>
> [0] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d4a5640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6ebb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
>
--
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jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: Commit bit for sibling projects committers
Posted by Georg Henzler <fe...@ghenzler.de>.
Hi,
On 2018-11-26 13:15, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:52 PM Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...As I said before, we don't typically have an issue with making
>> people
>> committers that want to continue maintaining contributions...
>
> FWIW, an idea that I (vaguely) mentioned earlier is making the Felix
> repositories writable for committers of "sibling projects". Felix
> would give write access to all committers of OSGi-related Apache
> projects, and define community rules for how people are expected to
> use those commit rights. Rules like "feel free to fix non-core simple
> things directly where test coverage makes things obvious, and discuss
> everything else on list before committing".
I think the main downside of this would be that having "sibling project
permissions" would not allow to create releases. At least for my part,
I would like to drive the module including creating releases for it.
Also
in the end it's probably just about 2-3 people (Betrand, I had just
assumed
that you already are a committer of in Felix but just noticed now that
you
aren't yet), while setting up the sibling approach would effectively add
43 three committers...
- Georg
Commit bit for sibling projects committers (was: [DISCUSS] Health
checks contribution)
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:52 PM Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...As I said before, we don't typically have an issue with making people
> committers that want to continue maintaining contributions...
FWIW, an idea that I (vaguely) mentioned earlier is making the Felix
repositories writable for committers of "sibling projects". Felix
would give write access to all committers of OSGi-related Apache
projects, and define community rules for how people are expected to
use those commit rights. Rules like "feel free to fix non-core simple
things directly where test coverage makes things obvious, and discuss
everything else on list before committing".
We did that between Cocoon, Lenya and Forrest a while ago (well, 15
years maybe ;-) and it worked well. I shall be able to dig out more
info if desired, can't find it right now.
I'm not saying this needs to happen right now but wanted to mention
the idea - it might help make the non-core parts of Felix more dynamic
by getting more contributions from those "sibling" OSGi-related
projects as well as motivate people to bring modules here that are of
general use.
-Bertrand (who's not a PMC member here, so just making a suggestion
based on past experience)
Re: [DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
Posted by Oliver Lietz <ap...@oliverlietz.de>.
On Sunday 25 November 2018 21:51:42 Karl Pauls wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:04 PM Oliver Lietz <ap...@oliverlietz.de> wrote:
> > On Thursday 22 November 2018 15:12:01 Karl Pauls wrote:
> > > I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
> > > contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
> > >
> > > You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
> > > contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
> > > move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
> > > (for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
> > >
> > > Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
> > > one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
> > > that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
> > > would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
> > > Felix as well.
> > >
> > > Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
> > > somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
> >
> > Will Sling committers be able to further work on the HC modules after move
> > to Felix?
>
> As I said before, we don't typically have an issue with making people
> committers that want to continue maintaining contributions. I take it
> you'd be interested?
Sure, https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-hc-core/graphs/contributors
Regards,
O.
> regards,
>
> Karl
>
> > Thanks,
> > O.
> >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > > [0]
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d
> > > 4a5
> > > 640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> > > [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
> > > [2]
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fd
> > > e6e
> > > bb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E [3]
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fd
> > > e6e
> > > bb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
Re: [DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
Posted by Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:04 PM Oliver Lietz <ap...@oliverlietz.de> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 22 November 2018 15:12:01 Karl Pauls wrote:
> > I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
> > contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
> >
> > You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
> > contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
> > move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
> > (for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
> >
> > Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
> > one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
> > that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
> > would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
> > Felix as well.
> >
> > Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
> > somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
>
> Will Sling committers be able to further work on the HC modules after move to
> Felix?
As I said before, we don't typically have an issue with making people
committers that want to continue maintaining contributions. I take it
you'd be interested?
regards,
Karl
> Thanks,
> O.
>
> > regards,
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > [0]
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d4a5
> > 640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> > [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
> > [2]
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6e
> > bb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E [3]
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6e
> > bb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
>
--
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Health checks contribution
Posted by Oliver Lietz <ap...@oliverlietz.de>.
On Thursday 22 November 2018 15:12:01 Karl Pauls wrote:
> I think it is time to come back to the discussion around accepting the
> contribution of the Sling Health Checks projects.
>
> You can read up on the initial discussion in [0] and find the
> contribution on [1]. Meanwhile, the Sling community voted to allow the
> move [2] and several people expressed interest to maintain it at Felix
> (for sure Georg Henzler [3]).
>
> Personally, I think it is a good idea to make this happen as on the
> one hand, we already have the systemready service and there is hopes
> that the two can be combined eventually - while on the other hand, it
> would be good to have the people involved become (more) active in
> Felix as well.
>
> Consequently, I plan to bring this to a vote early next week unless
> somebody has some arguments I'm missing?
Will Sling committers be able to further work on the HC modules after move to
Felix?
Thanks,
O.
> regards,
>
> Karl
>
> [0]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2a10823b9e8304c175cd1c8724d8903b04d4a5
> 640e3e5e85e97a2fc7@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E
> [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5952
> [2]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6e
> bb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E [3]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ba479dfc97da947af1fca01809760296fde6e
> bb143c86cb4a81b5cf@%3Cdev.felix.apache.org%3E