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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Randy Ramsdell <rr...@activedg.com> on 2010/06/02 17:39:41 UTC
Sa-learn huh
[09:23] <botboy> sa-learn { forget,spam,ham} SHOULD change the BAYES
scores correct?
[09:24] <botboy> We upgraded spamassassin and it just does not work like
it did before.
[09:24] <botboy> I would normally be able to learn as spam and change
the bayes score to a 3.5
[09:25] <botboy> but now i relearn as sapm it the score stay at 0.0
BAYES_50
I do get one error when learning.
netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included
vscan@:/home/vscan_salearn> sa-learn --forget
1275414726.M714825P12557.dfbbl16,W=9799:2,Sb
netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included
Forgot tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)
vscan@:/home/vscan_salearn> sa-learn --spam
1275414726.M714825P12557.dfbbl16,W=9799:2,Sb
netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included
Learned tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)
I appears to learn the message as spam, but BAYES score does not change.
Re: Sa-learn huh
Posted by Bowie Bailey <Bo...@BUC.com>.
Randy Ramsdell wrote:
> IIRC, when I sent messages through sa-learn on the old mail server as
> spam, then checking with spamassassin debug, this would show a 3.5
> BAYES score. I will double check this, but I would hope to at least
> add a positive score when training a spam message.
Training a single message should not cause a large change in the Bayes
score. Normally, you would need to train multiple similar messages
before you see a large change. Keep in mind that Bayes works with
statistics about the messages that it has learned. The change to the
database from learning a single message depends on the tokens in that
message and what Bayes had learned about those tokens previously.
--
Bowie
Re: Sa-learn huh
Posted by Randy Ramsdell <rr...@activedg.com>.
Michael Scheidell wrote:
> On 6/2/10 11:39 AM, Randy Ramsdell wrote:
>> [09:23] <botboy> sa-learn { forget,spam,ham} SHOULD change the BAYES
>> scores correct?
>> [09:24] <botboy> We upgraded spamassassin and it just does not work
>> like it did before.
>> [09:24] <botboy> I would normally be able to learn as spam and change
>> the bayes score to a 3.5
>> [09:25] <botboy> but now i relearn as sapm it the score stay at 0.0
>> BAYES_50
>>
>> I do get one error when learning.
>> netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included
>>
> that means nothing.
>
>> Forgot tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)
>>
>> vscan@:/home/vscan_salearn> sa-learn --spam
>> 1275414726.M714825P12557.dfbbl16,W=9799:2,Sb
>> netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included
>> Learned tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)
>>
>> I appears to learn the message as spam, but BAYES score does not change.
> hopefully, it takes more then one set of tokens to change a properly
> trained Bayesian database. if not, then all the poison emails would
> trash it.
>
> No, one email isn't going to take Bayesian from bayes_0 to bayes_95
>
>
>
IIRC, when I sent messages through sa-learn on the old mail server as
spam, then checking with spamassassin debug, this would show a 3.5
BAYES score. I will double check this, but I would hope to at least add
a positive score when training a spam message.
Thanks,
RCR
Re: Sa-learn huh
Posted by Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net>.
On 6/2/10 11:39 AM, Randy Ramsdell wrote:
> [09:23] <botboy> sa-learn { forget,spam,ham} SHOULD change the BAYES
> scores correct?
> [09:24] <botboy> We upgraded spamassassin and it just does not work
> like it did before.
> [09:24] <botboy> I would normally be able to learn as spam and change
> the bayes score to a 3.5
> [09:25] <botboy> but now i relearn as sapm it the score stay at 0.0
> BAYES_50
>
> I do get one error when learning.
> netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included
>
that means nothing.
> Forgot tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)
>
> vscan@:/home/vscan_salearn> sa-learn --spam
> 1275414726.M714825P12557.dfbbl16,W=9799:2,Sb
> netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included
> Learned tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)
>
> I appears to learn the message as spam, but BAYES score does not change.
hopefully, it takes more then one set of tokens to change a properly
trained Bayesian database. if not, then all the poison emails would
trash it.
No, one email isn't going to take Bayesian from bayes_0 to bayes_95
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