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Posted to dev@sentry.apache.org by Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com> on 2016/03/09 21:45:10 UTC
March monthly hangout
Hi All,
Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do Sentry
1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s agenda. Any
other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
Best,
Hao
Re: March monthly hangout
Posted by Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com>.
I agree the cut off time of docs related items should be the release date.
Should we start a new thread to discuss this? Thanks!
Best,
Hao
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We just finish March monthly hangout. The main topic of our discussion
> today is preparing for 1.7.0 Release:
>
> - Reviewed the main New Features candidates for 1.7.0. They are Kafka
> Integration, Solr Integration, Solr Shell, Audit Log for Generic Model,
> Sentry Shell, Hive V2 (if e2e tests are complete), HDFS sync changes (
> SENTRY-953 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-953>,
> SENTRY-957 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-957>).
> - Discussed new features required documentations. Sentry Shell
> documentations are completed (SENTRY-1006
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-1006>). Other new
> features still need documentations.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Best,
> Hao
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Ma, Junjie <ju...@intel.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> After every new release, I think there should be a discussion for the
>> features which will be included in next release. Based on this list, we can
>> have a roughly release date.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Colin Ma(Ma Jun Jie)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sravya Tirukkovalur [mailto:sravya@cloudera.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:51 AM
>> To: dev
>> Subject: Re: March monthly hangout
>>
>> In my opinion having roughly regular release dates is good, but it would
>> also be good to make sure features which go into these releases are
>> reasonably complete and have sufficient test coverage and documentation so
>> that the release itself is high quality and consumable. We are usually ok
>> with completeness and testing, but we tend to fall behind in terms of
>> documentation. By doing so, I am ok if we push the release a few weeks if
>> need be. What do you think?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Do we want to drive releases by feature sets or should we set regular
>> > release dates and include whatever makes those date?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Lenni
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur
>> > <sr...@cloudera.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > +1 for discussing release updates.
>> > >
>> > > I think it may help to have a list of features/improvements which
>> > > are
>> > going
>> > > in 1.7.0 before hand, so that we can discuss which of these are
>> > > complete (in terms of functionality/ testing/ documentation). We
>> > > should either
>> > track
>> > > the remaining jiras for 1.7.0 and get them in, or move the feature
>> > > itself to next release? I just moved the pending jiras to 1.8.0 and
>> > > here is how the current release notes look like for 1.7.0:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=1233334
>> > 8&styleName=Html&projectId=12314720&Create=Create&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-
>> > T4JA-FDED%7C3b77d94d8cd2c79d6254dea938861fe25ad62f39%7Clin
>> > >
>> > > Seems like we will need to fix the issue types for some of the
>> > > jiras,
>> > right
>> > > now I only see Sentry-906 as the only new feature :-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi All,
>> > > >
>> > > > Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do
>> > Sentry
>> > > > 1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s
>> agenda.
>> > > Any
>> > > > other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
>> > > >
>> > > > Best,
>> > > > Hao
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Sravya Tirukkovalur
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sravya Tirukkovalur
>>
>
>
Re: March monthly hangout
Posted by Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com>.
Hi All,
We just finish March monthly hangout. The main topic of our discussion
today is preparing for 1.7.0 Release:
- Reviewed the main New Features candidates for 1.7.0. They are Kafka
Integration, Solr Integration, Solr Shell, Audit Log for Generic Model,
Sentry Shell, Hive V2 (if e2e tests are complete), HDFS sync changes (
SENTRY-953 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-953>, SENTRY-957
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-957>).
- Discussed new features required documentations. Sentry Shell
documentations are completed (SENTRY-1006
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-1006>). Other new features
still need documentations.
Thanks!
Best,
Hao
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Ma, Junjie <ju...@intel.com> wrote:
>
> After every new release, I think there should be a discussion for the
> features which will be included in next release. Based on this list, we can
> have a roughly release date.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Colin Ma(Ma Jun Jie)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sravya Tirukkovalur [mailto:sravya@cloudera.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:51 AM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: March monthly hangout
>
> In my opinion having roughly regular release dates is good, but it would
> also be good to make sure features which go into these releases are
> reasonably complete and have sufficient test coverage and documentation so
> that the release itself is high quality and consumable. We are usually ok
> with completeness and testing, but we tend to fall behind in terms of
> documentation. By doing so, I am ok if we push the release a few weeks if
> need be. What do you think?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > Do we want to drive releases by feature sets or should we set regular
> > release dates and include whatever makes those date?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lenni
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur
> > <sr...@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for discussing release updates.
> > >
> > > I think it may help to have a list of features/improvements which
> > > are
> > going
> > > in 1.7.0 before hand, so that we can discuss which of these are
> > > complete (in terms of functionality/ testing/ documentation). We
> > > should either
> > track
> > > the remaining jiras for 1.7.0 and get them in, or move the feature
> > > itself to next release? I just moved the pending jiras to 1.8.0 and
> > > here is how the current release notes look like for 1.7.0:
> > >
> > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=1233334
> > 8&styleName=Html&projectId=12314720&Create=Create&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-
> > T4JA-FDED%7C3b77d94d8cd2c79d6254dea938861fe25ad62f39%7Clin
> > >
> > > Seems like we will need to fix the issue types for some of the
> > > jiras,
> > right
> > > now I only see Sentry-906 as the only new feature :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do
> > Sentry
> > > > 1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s
> agenda.
> > > Any
> > > > other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Hao
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sravya Tirukkovalur
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sravya Tirukkovalur
>
RE: March monthly hangout
Posted by "Ma, Junjie" <ju...@intel.com>.
After every new release, I think there should be a discussion for the features which will be included in next release. Based on this list, we can have a roughly release date.
Best regards,
Colin Ma(Ma Jun Jie)
-----Original Message-----
From: Sravya Tirukkovalur [mailto:sravya@cloudera.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 5:51 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: March monthly hangout
In my opinion having roughly regular release dates is good, but it would also be good to make sure features which go into these releases are reasonably complete and have sufficient test coverage and documentation so that the release itself is high quality and consumable. We are usually ok with completeness and testing, but we tend to fall behind in terms of documentation. By doing so, I am ok if we push the release a few weeks if need be. What do you think?
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Do we want to drive releases by feature sets or should we set regular
> release dates and include whatever makes those date?
>
> Thanks,
> Lenni
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur
> <sr...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for discussing release updates.
> >
> > I think it may help to have a list of features/improvements which
> > are
> going
> > in 1.7.0 before hand, so that we can discuss which of these are
> > complete (in terms of functionality/ testing/ documentation). We
> > should either
> track
> > the remaining jiras for 1.7.0 and get them in, or move the feature
> > itself to next release? I just moved the pending jiras to 1.8.0 and
> > here is how the current release notes look like for 1.7.0:
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=1233334
> 8&styleName=Html&projectId=12314720&Create=Create&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-
> T4JA-FDED%7C3b77d94d8cd2c79d6254dea938861fe25ad62f39%7Clin
> >
> > Seems like we will need to fix the issue types for some of the
> > jiras,
> right
> > now I only see Sentry-906 as the only new feature :-)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do
> Sentry
> > > 1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s agenda.
> > Any
> > > other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Hao
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sravya Tirukkovalur
> >
>
--
Sravya Tirukkovalur
Re: March monthly hangout
Posted by Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>.
Yes, might be worthy of a different thread. Do you want to start that off?
For 1. I think the cut off should be the release date?
For 2. We should probably have a separate discussion for this :-) I think
for the current sentry contributions pace, may be every 3-4 months?
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Sorry for hijacking this thread, perhaps we should split it off to have a
> separate discussion around releases? You bring up a good point. It seems
> like there are two items to discuss (that are related):
>
> 1) What is the criteria (testing, docs, etc) for a feature to get merged to
> trunk? For docs related items we could have a period after cutting the
> release branch that we add any docs that are missing.
> 2) What should our release cadence be?
>
> If we can solve 1) then we can release based on whatever is currently in
> trunk.
>
> Thanks,
> Lenni
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In my opinion having roughly regular release dates is good, but it would
> > also be good to make sure features which go into these releases are
> > reasonably complete and have sufficient test coverage and documentation
> so
> > that the release itself is high quality and consumable. We are usually ok
> > with completeness and testing, but we tend to fall behind in terms of
> > documentation. By doing so, I am ok if we push the release a few weeks if
> > need be. What do you think?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Do we want to drive releases by feature sets or should we set regular
> > > release dates and include whatever makes those date?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lenni
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <
> sravya@cloudera.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 for discussing release updates.
> > > >
> > > > I think it may help to have a list of features/improvements which are
> > > going
> > > > in 1.7.0 before hand, so that we can discuss which of these are
> > complete
> > > > (in terms of functionality/ testing/ documentation). We should either
> > > track
> > > > the remaining jiras for 1.7.0 and get them in, or move the feature
> > itself
> > > > to next release? I just moved the pending jiras to 1.8.0 and here is
> > how
> > > > the current release notes look like for 1.7.0:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12333348&styleName=Html&projectId=12314720&Create=Create&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED%7C3b77d94d8cd2c79d6254dea938861fe25ad62f39%7Clin
> > > >
> > > > Seems like we will need to fix the issue types for some of the jiras,
> > > right
> > > > now I only see Sentry-906 as the only new feature :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do
> > > Sentry
> > > > > 1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s
> > agenda.
> > > > Any
> > > > > other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Hao
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sravya Tirukkovalur
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sravya Tirukkovalur
> >
>
--
Sravya Tirukkovalur
Re: March monthly hangout
Posted by Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com>.
Sorry for hijacking this thread, perhaps we should split it off to have a
separate discussion around releases? You bring up a good point. It seems
like there are two items to discuss (that are related):
1) What is the criteria (testing, docs, etc) for a feature to get merged to
trunk? For docs related items we could have a period after cutting the
release branch that we add any docs that are missing.
2) What should our release cadence be?
If we can solve 1) then we can release based on whatever is currently in
trunk.
Thanks,
Lenni
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>
wrote:
> In my opinion having roughly regular release dates is good, but it would
> also be good to make sure features which go into these releases are
> reasonably complete and have sufficient test coverage and documentation so
> that the release itself is high quality and consumable. We are usually ok
> with completeness and testing, but we tend to fall behind in terms of
> documentation. By doing so, I am ok if we push the release a few weeks if
> need be. What do you think?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > Do we want to drive releases by feature sets or should we set regular
> > release dates and include whatever makes those date?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lenni
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sravya@cloudera.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for discussing release updates.
> > >
> > > I think it may help to have a list of features/improvements which are
> > going
> > > in 1.7.0 before hand, so that we can discuss which of these are
> complete
> > > (in terms of functionality/ testing/ documentation). We should either
> > track
> > > the remaining jiras for 1.7.0 and get them in, or move the feature
> itself
> > > to next release? I just moved the pending jiras to 1.8.0 and here is
> how
> > > the current release notes look like for 1.7.0:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12333348&styleName=Html&projectId=12314720&Create=Create&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED%7C3b77d94d8cd2c79d6254dea938861fe25ad62f39%7Clin
> > >
> > > Seems like we will need to fix the issue types for some of the jiras,
> > right
> > > now I only see Sentry-906 as the only new feature :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do
> > Sentry
> > > > 1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s
> agenda.
> > > Any
> > > > other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Hao
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sravya Tirukkovalur
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sravya Tirukkovalur
>
Re: March monthly hangout
Posted by Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>.
In my opinion having roughly regular release dates is good, but it would
also be good to make sure features which go into these releases are
reasonably complete and have sufficient test coverage and documentation so
that the release itself is high quality and consumable. We are usually ok
with completeness and testing, but we tend to fall behind in terms of
documentation. By doing so, I am ok if we push the release a few weeks if
need be. What do you think?
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Do we want to drive releases by feature sets or should we set regular
> release dates and include whatever makes those date?
>
> Thanks,
> Lenni
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for discussing release updates.
> >
> > I think it may help to have a list of features/improvements which are
> going
> > in 1.7.0 before hand, so that we can discuss which of these are complete
> > (in terms of functionality/ testing/ documentation). We should either
> track
> > the remaining jiras for 1.7.0 and get them in, or move the feature itself
> > to next release? I just moved the pending jiras to 1.8.0 and here is how
> > the current release notes look like for 1.7.0:
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12333348&styleName=Html&projectId=12314720&Create=Create&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED%7C3b77d94d8cd2c79d6254dea938861fe25ad62f39%7Clin
> >
> > Seems like we will need to fix the issue types for some of the jiras,
> right
> > now I only see Sentry-906 as the only new feature :-)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do
> Sentry
> > > 1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s agenda.
> > Any
> > > other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Hao
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sravya Tirukkovalur
> >
>
--
Sravya Tirukkovalur
Re: March monthly hangout
Posted by Lenni Kuff <ls...@cloudera.com>.
Do we want to drive releases by feature sets or should we set regular
release dates and include whatever makes those date?
Thanks,
Lenni
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>
wrote:
> +1 for discussing release updates.
>
> I think it may help to have a list of features/improvements which are going
> in 1.7.0 before hand, so that we can discuss which of these are complete
> (in terms of functionality/ testing/ documentation). We should either track
> the remaining jiras for 1.7.0 and get them in, or move the feature itself
> to next release? I just moved the pending jiras to 1.8.0 and here is how
> the current release notes look like for 1.7.0:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12333348&styleName=Html&projectId=12314720&Create=Create&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED%7C3b77d94d8cd2c79d6254dea938861fe25ad62f39%7Clin
>
> Seems like we will need to fix the issue types for some of the jiras, right
> now I only see Sentry-906 as the only new feature :-)
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do Sentry
> > 1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s agenda.
> Any
> > other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
> >
> > Best,
> > Hao
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sravya Tirukkovalur
>
Re: March monthly hangout
Posted by Sravya Tirukkovalur <sr...@cloudera.com>.
+1 for discussing release updates.
I think it may help to have a list of features/improvements which are going
in 1.7.0 before hand, so that we can discuss which of these are complete
(in terms of functionality/ testing/ documentation). We should either track
the remaining jiras for 1.7.0 and get them in, or move the feature itself
to next release? I just moved the pending jiras to 1.8.0 and here is how
the current release notes look like for 1.7.0:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12333348&styleName=Html&projectId=12314720&Create=Create&atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED%7C3b77d94d8cd2c79d6254dea938861fe25ad62f39%7Clin
Seems like we will need to fix the issue types for some of the jiras, right
now I only see Sentry-906 as the only new feature :-)
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Hao Hao <ha...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Tomorrow is the March monthly hangout. Since we are planning to do Sentry
> 1.7.0 release, I propose to discuss it as a part of tomorrow’s agenda. Any
> other suggestions for the topics you want to discuss? Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Hao
>
--
Sravya Tirukkovalur