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Posted to dev@calcite.apache.org by Francis Chuang <fr...@apache.org> on 2019/10/20 22:47:16 UTC
[DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
It's the time of the year where we are nearing Calcite's graduation
(birthday) on October 22! It's been a really busy year for Calcite and
we've added quite a few committers to the project with a total of 44
committers on the project.
We have seen 3 releases so far for Calcite this year, with each release
containing a significant amount of changes. More importantly, I think we
maintained a more steady and predictable release cadence for Calcite
this year. The project has also seen a big improvement in terms of
reviewing pull requests as well as increased participation on our
mailing lists. I think there is still work to be done in this area, but
the efforts we have made to address this this year should be highly
commended.
In terms of Avatica, we had 2 releases for Avatica itself and 1 release
for Avatica Go. Compared to Calcite, Avatica does not seem to be as
active in terms of contributors and reviews for pull requests. In the
last board report, a board member mentioned that Avatica was not very
discoverable [1]. I hope to see more active participation in Avatica in
terms of contributing code and reviewing pull requests in the coming
year and I would love to hear your thoughts on making Avatica more
discoverable.
The project also saw members of the Calcite, Flink and Beam teams
present a paper on the use of Calcite for streaming-SQL applications at
SIGMOD 2019. At ApacheCon NA in September, there were 5 talks on
Calcite. Props to those who presented talks and I'd love to see more
talks at future ApacheCons and events.
In terms of the community, we have seen a lot of new contributors and
participants on the list. I hardly see any question go unanswered and
it's very reassuring to see queries being answered so quickly. I think
our welcoming community and responsiveness is definitely a huge plus for us.
It's been a massive privilege to be able to serve as Calcite's PMC chair
in 2019. It's also been a big learning experience for me and I am really
lucky to be able to ask Julian and Michael for pointers when some of the
ASF's processes weren't clearly documented. I am also extremely proud of
having the opportunity to work with contributors who have shown great
care and craftsmanship to the code they are working on, focusing on
making sure code that makes it into the repository is well-thought-out
and supple.
When Calcite graduated to a top level project in 2015, we agreed to
rotate the PMC chair every 12 months. I want to use this as an
opportunity to start some discussion about a new chair. I believe
Stamatis Zampetakis is a good choice, if he is willing to accept.
Stamatis has been a great contributor to the project. He has shown a lot
of care and thought to the quality and state of the code and I feel
these attributes would make him a great PMC chair.
To repeat questions from previous years:
1) What else are we doing well in the project?
2) What areas do we need to do better?
Please take some time to share your thoughts!
Francis
[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f9cdf702507d3a55204d7f844b7eb6906bc4fe8cb373e3e2822e3ade@%3Cdev.calcite.apache.org%3E
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Xiening Dai <xn...@gmail.com>.
+1 on the improvement of pull request turnaround time. I also see a few new committers who are really active. They help review PRs and answer mail list questions, which really benefits the community and people who’d like to make code contribution.
I also feel like Calcite has big code base with a lot of history. It would be great if we could do more knowledge sharing, so people making changes in legacy code would have better understand on the history. Such sharing could be through documentation, talk, slices, or even code review and email discussion. We have been doing some of these, but I’d look forward to seeing more in the future. Thanks.
> On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:21 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem, pull requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better, because a few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still have some ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
>
> One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and did a great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly be for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
>
> I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo. Thank you for pushing that change through!
>
> +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to propose him also.
>
> I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every year. Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and has advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept Calcite in good shape. Thank you, Francis!
>
> We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I do note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica Go, in fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole Calcite project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between the Calcite and Avatica communities.
>
> Julian
>
>
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
>>
>> Best,
>> Danny Chan
>> 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>>>
>>> Francis
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>.
Talks are a great way to spread the word about the project so don't
hesitate to update the respective part of the website as soon as the talk
is announced.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:16 AM Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sorry to disturb others.
>
>
> @Danny Chan Hi, i have not received your personal mail, and i sent you
> email(yuzhao.cyz@gmail.com?) as well, but no reply. :(
>
>
>
> So i have to ping you in this way, please excuse me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Juan Pan
>
>
> panjuan@apache.org
> Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
>
>
> On 10/25/2019 20:41，Danny Chan<yu...@gmail.com> wrote：
> Oh, you can add my weixin(send personal mail for that) and I have a free
> ticket for the conference !
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月25日 +0800 PM6:29，Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>，写道：
> Hi Danny,
>
>
> I am interested in your coming talk in Beijing China. How to take part in
> it, can you give me more detail?
>
>
> Juan Pan
>
>
> panjuan@apache.org
> Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
>
>
> On 10/23/2019 18:23，Danny Chan<yu...@gmail.com> wrote：
> I gave a talk last year in a university in
> France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
>
> Oops, that's a pity, I would also give a talk about Calcite on Flink
> Forward Asia 2019 of BeiJing China, hope more people would know Apache
> Calcite.
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月23日 +0800 PM2:36，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>
> I gave a talk last year in a university in
> France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>.
Sorry to disturb others.
@Danny Chan Hi, i have not received your personal mail, and i sent you email(yuzhao.cyz@gmail.com?) as well, but no reply. :(
So i have to ping you in this way, please excuse me.
Juan Pan
panjuan@apache.org
Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
On 10/25/2019 20:41，Danny Chan<yu...@gmail.com> wrote：
Oh, you can add my weixin(send personal mail for that) and I have a free ticket for the conference !
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月25日 +0800 PM6:29，Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>，写道：
Hi Danny,
I am interested in your coming talk in Beijing China. How to take part in it, can you give me more detail?
Juan Pan
panjuan@apache.org
Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
On 10/23/2019 18:23，Danny Chan<yu...@gmail.com> wrote：
I gave a talk last year in a university in
France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
Oops, that's a pity, I would also give a talk about Calcite on Flink Forward Asia 2019 of BeiJing China, hope more people would know Apache Calcite.
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月23日 +0800 PM2:36，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
I gave a talk last year in a university in
France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>.
Oh, you can add my weixin(send personal mail for that) and I have a free ticket for the conference !
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月25日 +0800 PM6:29，Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>，写道：
> Hi Danny,
>
>
> I am interested in your coming talk in Beijing China. How to take part in it, can you give me more detail?
>
>
> Juan Pan
>
>
> panjuan@apache.org
> Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
>
>
> On 10/23/2019 18:23，Danny Chan<yu...@gmail.com> wrote：
> I gave a talk last year in a university in
> France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
>
> Oops, that's a pity, I would also give a talk about Calcite on Flink Forward Asia 2019 of BeiJing China, hope more people would know Apache Calcite.
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月23日 +0800 PM2:36，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>
> I gave a talk last year in a university in
> France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>.
Hi Danny,
I am interested in your coming talk in Beijing China. How to take part in it, can you give me more detail?
Juan Pan
panjuan@apache.org
Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
On 10/23/2019 18:23，Danny Chan<yu...@gmail.com> wrote：
I gave a talk last year in a university in
France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
Oops, that's a pity, I would also give a talk about Calcite on Flink Forward Asia 2019 of BeiJing China, hope more people would know Apache Calcite.
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月23日 +0800 PM2:36，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
I gave a talk last year in a university in
France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Muhammad Gelbana <mg...@apache.org>.
I forgot mentioning that I strongly believe we need more technical design
documents for Calcite's major components such as the parser, validator and
code generation.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:52 PM Muhammad Gelbana <mg...@apache.org>
wrote:
> The mailing list didn't have such activity three years ago when I started
> learning about Calcite. Also more advanced topics and questions are posted
> which, although makes it harder for me to participate, it definitely says a
> lot about how much the project has advanced on both the technical and
> adoption aspects.
>
> +1 for Stamatis for PMC chair. He's one of the most active, knowledgable
> and friendliest committers I've come across.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >I gave a talk last year in a university in
>> > France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
>>
>> Oops, that's a pity, I would also give a talk about Calcite on Flink
>> Forward Asia 2019 of BeiJing China, hope more people would know Apache
>> Calcite.
>>
>> Best,
>> Danny Chan
>> 在 2019年10月23日 +0800 PM2:36，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>> >
>> > I gave a talk last year in a university in
>> > France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Muhammad Gelbana <mg...@apache.org>.
The mailing list didn't have such activity three years ago when I started
learning about Calcite. Also more advanced topics and questions are posted
which, although makes it harder for me to participate, it definitely says a
lot about how much the project has advanced on both the technical and
adoption aspects.
+1 for Stamatis for PMC chair. He's one of the most active, knowledgable
and friendliest committers I've come across.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I gave a talk last year in a university in
> > France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
>
> Oops, that's a pity, I would also give a talk about Calcite on Flink
> Forward Asia 2019 of BeiJing China, hope more people would know Apache
> Calcite.
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月23日 +0800 PM2:36，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> >
> > I gave a talk last year in a university in
> > France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>.
>I gave a talk last year in a university in
> France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
Oops, that's a pity, I would also give a talk about Calcite on Flink Forward Asia 2019 of BeiJing China, hope more people would know Apache Calcite.
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月23日 +0800 PM2:36，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>
> I gave a talk last year in a university in
> France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by XING JIN <ji...@gmail.com>.
Thanks a lot for your work Francis and +1 for Stamatis to be the next PMC
chair ~ ~
Calcite is a great project and it offers as a strong SQL engine to help
users to build data systems.
My group uses Calcite to accelerate SQLs from multiple data engines by
heuristic based, cost based and materialization based optimization.
As a developer, I really benefit a lot from Calcite and the help from this
great community.
Calcite is not well known ? Yes, it might be less heard by the end users
(who focus on data analysis), but most of data engine developers (AFAIK)
know that Calcite is always a good choice when they
want to build a strong SQL engine for their data systems. This is the charm
of Calcite.
Finally, I agree with Muhammad Gelbana to strenghten documentation for
Calcite.
Best,
Jin
Alessandro Solimando <al...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月24日周四
下午4:41写道：
> Hello,
> I have the impression too that Calcite is lesser known than other Apache
> projects, but this is not that surprising to me given the nature of the
> project itself, which requires in-depth knowledge of a rather complex
> topic, which makes it is less prone to a casual use and plug&play adoption.
> But IMO this is a point of strength and not a weakness, and it's what makes
> Calcite so fascinating! This been said, spreading the word never hurts.
>
> I also agree that the community is much more active now than in the past
> two years, the effort has always been high but now there are more people
> involved, which makes it easier.
>
> On my side I mostly follow the "high-level" discussions more than the
> individual tickets. Such discussions are constructive, pleasant to read and
> instructive.
>
> A big plus also for the high-quality research articles directly stemming
> from the efforts of this community.
>
> Last but not least, Stamatis would make a great PMC chair!
>
> I take the chance to thank you all for the great deal of effort in keeping
> the project alive at such high standards.
>
> Best regards,
> Alessandro
>
>
>
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 17:00, Ruben Q L <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > First of all, thanks for your work, Francis.
> >
> > While I am relatively new in this community I must admit that I totally
> > agree with Danny Chan when he says that we had some *"interesting
> > discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable
> > conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation,
> the
> > metadata etc.)"*. I think we must continue in this direction and keep on
> > our good work together.
> >
> > Apart from that, I agree with Muhammad Gelbana too: ideally we could have
> > more technical documentation of the main modules; but I am also aware
> that
> > it can be very time consuming to generate such documentation, and also to
> > maintain it, and we could easily have out-of-date material on our hands.
> > So, I am not sure how we could proceed.
> > Despite being a great project, I also have the impression that Calcite is
> > not so well-known, and we need to "spread the word" to reach a bigger
> > number of users.
> >
> > I cannot compare with previous years, but I what I have seen so far is a
> > healthy community, with many people collaborating and willing to help
> > beginner (and advanced) users.
> >
> > Finally, I think Stamatis is a great choice for PMC chair :)
> >
> > Best,
> > Ruben Quesada Lopez
> >
> >
> >
> > Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 15:09, Michael Mior <mm...@apache.org> a écrit :
> >
> > > Thanks for the summary Francis and +1 for Stamatis as the next PMC
> chair
> > :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Mior
> > > mmior@apache.org
> > >
> > > Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 02:36, Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>
> a
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > It's been a great year so far. Thanks for your great work Francis,
> you
> > > did
> > > > an excellent job!
> > > >
> > > > I also like a lot the way that the mailing list works and the fact
> that
> > > we
> > > > are very active. Apart from helping each other it also centralizes a
> > lot
> > > of
> > > > information, where people may find an answer to their problem quite
> > > easily.
> > > > When I first started to learn about Calcite, the list and the
> archives
> > > were
> > > > indispensable.
> > > >
> > > > It is also very positive that we don't encounter very often
> regressions
> > > > (and most of those encountered were minor), which shows that the
> > quality
> > > > standards of the project are really high and reviewers are really
> > paying
> > > > attention on what is going in. I believe a lot in the motto of
> quality
> > > over
> > > > quantity.
> > > >
> > > > Although we are managing PRs a bit better than the previous years, we
> > > have
> > > > to improve more. I had in my mind that if people assigned to
> themselves
> > > the
> > > > review of the JIRA/PR the feeling of responsibility would make things
> > > > advance faster. I tried applying this to myself but it didn't really
> > work
> > > > much better since there is certainly a lack of time. Other than lack
> of
> > > > time sometimes it is our diligence that makes PRs wait a long time
> till
> > > > they get merged. Given that we have a version control system (and at
> > any
> > > > time we can go back in time) we should be more confident about
> > committing
> > > > things faster.
> > > >
> > > > Calcite is a great project that could be used in many different ways
> by
> > > > many people. Unfortunately, I think we are losing many users simply
> > > because
> > > > they are not aware that such a project exists. At least in Europe,
> > > academic
> > > > people and as a result university students, graduates, and future
> > > engineers
> > > > do not know that Calcite exists. I gave a talk last year in a
> > university
> > > in
> > > > France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before.
> I
> > > > think such introductory talks in universities should be done more
> > often.
> > > > The talks about Calcite in conferences is of course a great way to
> > spread
> > > > the word; thanks to everybody who got involved in them and keep it
> up.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot for the nomination for PMC chair! I will be honoured and
> > > very
> > > > happy to serve if I am elected.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Stamatis
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:40 AM Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually i think it's time to have my say after receiving the email
> > > > > titiled `Have your say!` from Julian Hyde.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As a person new this project, i am appreciated community's help for
> > my
> > > > > question ml, and glad to see its communnity so active and
> harmonious.
> > > Other
> > > > > than that, it also gives me some new ideas for our incubator
> project.
> > > As of
> > > > > now, i am exploring Calcite, so if possible, i want to do some
> > > > > contributions to it as well.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope Apache Calcite better and better in future.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > Trista
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Juan Pan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > panjuan@apache.org
> > > > > Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/23/2019 11:21，Chunwei Lei<ch...@gmail.com> wrote：
> > > > > Thank you for your great work, Francis!
> > > > >
> > > > > In the past year, I deeply feel that Calcite community is becoming
> > > more and
> > > > > more active, which means that more and
> > > > > more companies start to use Apache Calcite. This is very exciting
> and
> > > > > encouraging.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to active contributions and committers, pull requests could
> be
> > > > > reviewed and merged in a short time currently
> > > > > which really benefits a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also feel that there are quite a few tough legacy issues left. I
> > > hope we
> > > > > can spend more time discussing and finding out
> > > > > a solution in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Chunwei
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the
> > > awesome
> > > > > work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
> > > > >
> > > > > From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more
> and
> > > more
> > > > > popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great
> > > project, as
> > > > > a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And
> I
> > > feel
> > > > > very proud of that !
> > > > >
> > > > > For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite
> to
> > > have
> > > > > better integration, and I believe there would be more and more
> people
> > > to
> > > > > make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more
> suitable
> > > for
> > > > > production environments !
> > > > >
> > > > > I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are
> fire
> > > > > interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some
> > > valuable
> > > > > conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets
> > > propagation, the
> > > > > metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you
> > > guys in
> > > > > the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more
> > > valuable
> > > > > design !
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again to everyone !
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Danny Chan
> > > > > 在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22，Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>，写道：
> > > > > I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem,
> > pull
> > > > > requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better,
> > > because a
> > > > > few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still
> > have
> > > some
> > > > > ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers
> for
> > > > > several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and
> > > did a
> > > > > great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could
> possibly
> > > be
> > > > > for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no
> > > > > individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo.
> > Thank
> > > > > you for pushing that change through!
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to
> > > > > propose him also.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every
> > year.
> > > > > Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role,
> and
> > > has
> > > > > advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept
> > > Calcite in
> > > > > good shape. Thank you, Francis!
> > > > >
> > > > > We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave
> > > > > Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But
> I
> > do
> > > > > note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project
> (Avatica
> > > Go, in
> > > > > fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole
> > Calcite
> > > > > project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between
> > the
> > > > > Calcite and Avatica communities.
> > > > >
> > > > > Julian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Danny Chan
> > > > > 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > Francis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Alessandro Solimando <al...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
I have the impression too that Calcite is lesser known than other Apache
projects, but this is not that surprising to me given the nature of the
project itself, which requires in-depth knowledge of a rather complex
topic, which makes it is less prone to a casual use and plug&play adoption.
But IMO this is a point of strength and not a weakness, and it's what makes
Calcite so fascinating! This been said, spreading the word never hurts.
I also agree that the community is much more active now than in the past
two years, the effort has always been high but now there are more people
involved, which makes it easier.
On my side I mostly follow the "high-level" discussions more than the
individual tickets. Such discussions are constructive, pleasant to read and
instructive.
A big plus also for the high-quality research articles directly stemming
from the efforts of this community.
Last but not least, Stamatis would make a great PMC chair!
I take the chance to thank you all for the great deal of effort in keeping
the project alive at such high standards.
Best regards,
Alessandro
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 17:00, Ruben Q L <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> First of all, thanks for your work, Francis.
>
> While I am relatively new in this community I must admit that I totally
> agree with Danny Chan when he says that we had some *"interesting
> discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable
> conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation, the
> metadata etc.)"*. I think we must continue in this direction and keep on
> our good work together.
>
> Apart from that, I agree with Muhammad Gelbana too: ideally we could have
> more technical documentation of the main modules; but I am also aware that
> it can be very time consuming to generate such documentation, and also to
> maintain it, and we could easily have out-of-date material on our hands.
> So, I am not sure how we could proceed.
> Despite being a great project, I also have the impression that Calcite is
> not so well-known, and we need to "spread the word" to reach a bigger
> number of users.
>
> I cannot compare with previous years, but I what I have seen so far is a
> healthy community, with many people collaborating and willing to help
> beginner (and advanced) users.
>
> Finally, I think Stamatis is a great choice for PMC chair :)
>
> Best,
> Ruben Quesada Lopez
>
>
>
> Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 15:09, Michael Mior <mm...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
> > Thanks for the summary Francis and +1 for Stamatis as the next PMC chair
> :)
> >
> > --
> > Michael Mior
> > mmior@apache.org
> >
> > Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 02:36, Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > It's been a great year so far. Thanks for your great work Francis, you
> > did
> > > an excellent job!
> > >
> > > I also like a lot the way that the mailing list works and the fact that
> > we
> > > are very active. Apart from helping each other it also centralizes a
> lot
> > of
> > > information, where people may find an answer to their problem quite
> > easily.
> > > When I first started to learn about Calcite, the list and the archives
> > were
> > > indispensable.
> > >
> > > It is also very positive that we don't encounter very often regressions
> > > (and most of those encountered were minor), which shows that the
> quality
> > > standards of the project are really high and reviewers are really
> paying
> > > attention on what is going in. I believe a lot in the motto of quality
> > over
> > > quantity.
> > >
> > > Although we are managing PRs a bit better than the previous years, we
> > have
> > > to improve more. I had in my mind that if people assigned to themselves
> > the
> > > review of the JIRA/PR the feeling of responsibility would make things
> > > advance faster. I tried applying this to myself but it didn't really
> work
> > > much better since there is certainly a lack of time. Other than lack of
> > > time sometimes it is our diligence that makes PRs wait a long time till
> > > they get merged. Given that we have a version control system (and at
> any
> > > time we can go back in time) we should be more confident about
> committing
> > > things faster.
> > >
> > > Calcite is a great project that could be used in many different ways by
> > > many people. Unfortunately, I think we are losing many users simply
> > because
> > > they are not aware that such a project exists. At least in Europe,
> > academic
> > > people and as a result university students, graduates, and future
> > engineers
> > > do not know that Calcite exists. I gave a talk last year in a
> university
> > in
> > > France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before. I
> > > think such introductory talks in universities should be done more
> often.
> > > The talks about Calcite in conferences is of course a great way to
> spread
> > > the word; thanks to everybody who got involved in them and keep it up.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for the nomination for PMC chair! I will be honoured and
> > very
> > > happy to serve if I am elected.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Stamatis
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:40 AM Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually i think it's time to have my say after receiving the email
> > > > titiled `Have your say!` from Julian Hyde.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As a person new this project, i am appreciated community's help for
> my
> > > > question ml, and glad to see its communnity so active and harmonious.
> > Other
> > > > than that, it also gives me some new ideas for our incubator project.
> > As of
> > > > now, i am exploring Calcite, so if possible, i want to do some
> > > > contributions to it as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope Apache Calcite better and better in future.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > > Trista
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Juan Pan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > panjuan@apache.org
> > > > Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/23/2019 11:21，Chunwei Lei<ch...@gmail.com> wrote：
> > > > Thank you for your great work, Francis!
> > > >
> > > > In the past year, I deeply feel that Calcite community is becoming
> > more and
> > > > more active, which means that more and
> > > > more companies start to use Apache Calcite. This is very exciting and
> > > > encouraging.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to active contributions and committers, pull requests could be
> > > > reviewed and merged in a short time currently
> > > > which really benefits a lot.
> > > >
> > > > I also feel that there are quite a few tough legacy issues left. I
> > hope we
> > > > can spend more time discussing and finding out
> > > > a solution in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Chunwei
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the
> > awesome
> > > > work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
> > > >
> > > > From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more and
> > more
> > > > popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great
> > project, as
> > > > a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And I
> > feel
> > > > very proud of that !
> > > >
> > > > For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite to
> > have
> > > > better integration, and I believe there would be more and more people
> > to
> > > > make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more suitable
> > for
> > > > production environments !
> > > >
> > > > I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are fire
> > > > interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some
> > valuable
> > > > conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets
> > propagation, the
> > > > metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you
> > guys in
> > > > the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more
> > valuable
> > > > design !
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again to everyone !
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Danny Chan
> > > > 在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22，Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>，写道：
> > > > I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem,
> pull
> > > > requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better,
> > because a
> > > > few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still
> have
> > some
> > > > ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
> > > >
> > > > One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for
> > > > several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and
> > did a
> > > > great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly
> > be
> > > > for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no
> > > > individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
> > > >
> > > > I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo.
> Thank
> > > > you for pushing that change through!
> > > >
> > > > +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to
> > > > propose him also.
> > > >
> > > > I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every
> year.
> > > > Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and
> > has
> > > > advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept
> > Calcite in
> > > > good shape. Thank you, Francis!
> > > >
> > > > We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave
> > > > Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I
> do
> > > > note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica
> > Go, in
> > > > fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole
> Calcite
> > > > project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between
> the
> > > > Calcite and Avatica communities.
> > > >
> > > > Julian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Danny Chan
> > > > 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> > > >
> > > > Francis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Ruben Q L <ru...@gmail.com>.
Hello everyone,
First of all, thanks for your work, Francis.
While I am relatively new in this community I must admit that I totally
agree with Danny Chan when he says that we had some *"interesting
discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable
conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation, the
metadata etc.)"*. I think we must continue in this direction and keep on
our good work together.
Apart from that, I agree with Muhammad Gelbana too: ideally we could have
more technical documentation of the main modules; but I am also aware that
it can be very time consuming to generate such documentation, and also to
maintain it, and we could easily have out-of-date material on our hands.
So, I am not sure how we could proceed.
Despite being a great project, I also have the impression that Calcite is
not so well-known, and we need to "spread the word" to reach a bigger
number of users.
I cannot compare with previous years, but I what I have seen so far is a
healthy community, with many people collaborating and willing to help
beginner (and advanced) users.
Finally, I think Stamatis is a great choice for PMC chair :)
Best,
Ruben Quesada Lopez
Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 15:09, Michael Mior <mm...@apache.org> a écrit :
> Thanks for the summary Francis and +1 for Stamatis as the next PMC chair :)
>
> --
> Michael Mior
> mmior@apache.org
>
> Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 02:36, Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >
> > It's been a great year so far. Thanks for your great work Francis, you
> did
> > an excellent job!
> >
> > I also like a lot the way that the mailing list works and the fact that
> we
> > are very active. Apart from helping each other it also centralizes a lot
> of
> > information, where people may find an answer to their problem quite
> easily.
> > When I first started to learn about Calcite, the list and the archives
> were
> > indispensable.
> >
> > It is also very positive that we don't encounter very often regressions
> > (and most of those encountered were minor), which shows that the quality
> > standards of the project are really high and reviewers are really paying
> > attention on what is going in. I believe a lot in the motto of quality
> over
> > quantity.
> >
> > Although we are managing PRs a bit better than the previous years, we
> have
> > to improve more. I had in my mind that if people assigned to themselves
> the
> > review of the JIRA/PR the feeling of responsibility would make things
> > advance faster. I tried applying this to myself but it didn't really work
> > much better since there is certainly a lack of time. Other than lack of
> > time sometimes it is our diligence that makes PRs wait a long time till
> > they get merged. Given that we have a version control system (and at any
> > time we can go back in time) we should be more confident about committing
> > things faster.
> >
> > Calcite is a great project that could be used in many different ways by
> > many people. Unfortunately, I think we are losing many users simply
> because
> > they are not aware that such a project exists. At least in Europe,
> academic
> > people and as a result university students, graduates, and future
> engineers
> > do not know that Calcite exists. I gave a talk last year in a university
> in
> > France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before. I
> > think such introductory talks in universities should be done more often.
> > The talks about Calcite in conferences is of course a great way to spread
> > the word; thanks to everybody who got involved in them and keep it up.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for the nomination for PMC chair! I will be honoured and
> very
> > happy to serve if I am elected.
> >
> > Best,
> > Stamatis
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:40 AM Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually i think it's time to have my say after receiving the email
> > > titiled `Have your say!` from Julian Hyde.
> > >
> > >
> > > As a person new this project, i am appreciated community's help for my
> > > question ml, and glad to see its communnity so active and harmonious.
> Other
> > > than that, it also gives me some new ideas for our incubator project.
> As of
> > > now, i am exploring Calcite, so if possible, i want to do some
> > > contributions to it as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope Apache Calcite better and better in future.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Trista
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Juan Pan
> > >
> > >
> > > panjuan@apache.org
> > > Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/23/2019 11:21，Chunwei Lei<ch...@gmail.com> wrote：
> > > Thank you for your great work, Francis!
> > >
> > > In the past year, I deeply feel that Calcite community is becoming
> more and
> > > more active, which means that more and
> > > more companies start to use Apache Calcite. This is very exciting and
> > > encouraging.
> > >
> > > Thanks to active contributions and committers, pull requests could be
> > > reviewed and merged in a short time currently
> > > which really benefits a lot.
> > >
> > > I also feel that there are quite a few tough legacy issues left. I
> hope we
> > > can spend more time discussing and finding out
> > > a solution in the future.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Chunwei
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the
> awesome
> > > work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
> > >
> > > From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more and
> more
> > > popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great
> project, as
> > > a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And I
> feel
> > > very proud of that !
> > >
> > > For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite to
> have
> > > better integration, and I believe there would be more and more people
> to
> > > make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more suitable
> for
> > > production environments !
> > >
> > > I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are fire
> > > interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some
> valuable
> > > conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets
> propagation, the
> > > metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you
> guys in
> > > the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more
> valuable
> > > design !
> > >
> > > Thanks again to everyone !
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Danny Chan
> > > 在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22，Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>，写道：
> > > I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem, pull
> > > requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better,
> because a
> > > few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still have
> some
> > > ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
> > >
> > > One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for
> > > several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and
> did a
> > > great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly
> be
> > > for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no
> > > individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
> > >
> > > I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo. Thank
> > > you for pushing that change through!
> > >
> > > +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to
> > > propose him also.
> > >
> > > I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every year.
> > > Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and
> has
> > > advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept
> Calcite in
> > > good shape. Thank you, Francis!
> > >
> > > We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave
> > > Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I do
> > > note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica
> Go, in
> > > fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole Calcite
> > > project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between the
> > > Calcite and Avatica communities.
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> > > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Danny Chan
> > > 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> > >
> > > Francis
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Michael Mior <mm...@apache.org>.
Thanks for the summary Francis and +1 for Stamatis as the next PMC chair :)
--
Michael Mior
mmior@apache.org
Le mer. 23 oct. 2019 à 02:36, Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> It's been a great year so far. Thanks for your great work Francis, you did
> an excellent job!
>
> I also like a lot the way that the mailing list works and the fact that we
> are very active. Apart from helping each other it also centralizes a lot of
> information, where people may find an answer to their problem quite easily.
> When I first started to learn about Calcite, the list and the archives were
> indispensable.
>
> It is also very positive that we don't encounter very often regressions
> (and most of those encountered were minor), which shows that the quality
> standards of the project are really high and reviewers are really paying
> attention on what is going in. I believe a lot in the motto of quality over
> quantity.
>
> Although we are managing PRs a bit better than the previous years, we have
> to improve more. I had in my mind that if people assigned to themselves the
> review of the JIRA/PR the feeling of responsibility would make things
> advance faster. I tried applying this to myself but it didn't really work
> much better since there is certainly a lack of time. Other than lack of
> time sometimes it is our diligence that makes PRs wait a long time till
> they get merged. Given that we have a version control system (and at any
> time we can go back in time) we should be more confident about committing
> things faster.
>
> Calcite is a great project that could be used in many different ways by
> many people. Unfortunately, I think we are losing many users simply because
> they are not aware that such a project exists. At least in Europe, academic
> people and as a result university students, graduates, and future engineers
> do not know that Calcite exists. I gave a talk last year in a university in
> France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before. I
> think such introductory talks in universities should be done more often.
> The talks about Calcite in conferences is of course a great way to spread
> the word; thanks to everybody who got involved in them and keep it up.
>
> Thanks a lot for the nomination for PMC chair! I will be honoured and very
> happy to serve if I am elected.
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:40 AM Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >
> > Actually i think it's time to have my say after receiving the email
> > titiled `Have your say!` from Julian Hyde.
> >
> >
> > As a person new this project, i am appreciated community's help for my
> > question ml, and glad to see its communnity so active and harmonious. Other
> > than that, it also gives me some new ideas for our incubator project. As of
> > now, i am exploring Calcite, so if possible, i want to do some
> > contributions to it as well.
> >
> >
> > Hope Apache Calcite better and better in future.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Trista
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Juan Pan
> >
> >
> > panjuan@apache.org
> > Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
> >
> >
> > On 10/23/2019 11:21，Chunwei Lei<ch...@gmail.com> wrote：
> > Thank you for your great work, Francis!
> >
> > In the past year, I deeply feel that Calcite community is becoming more and
> > more active, which means that more and
> > more companies start to use Apache Calcite. This is very exciting and
> > encouraging.
> >
> > Thanks to active contributions and committers, pull requests could be
> > reviewed and merged in a short time currently
> > which really benefits a lot.
> >
> > I also feel that there are quite a few tough legacy issues left. I hope we
> > can spend more time discussing and finding out
> > a solution in the future.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Best,
> > Chunwei
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the awesome
> > work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
> >
> > From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more and more
> > popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great project, as
> > a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And I feel
> > very proud of that !
> >
> > For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite to have
> > better integration, and I believe there would be more and more people to
> > make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more suitable for
> > production environments !
> >
> > I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are fire
> > interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable
> > conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation, the
> > metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you guys in
> > the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more valuable
> > design !
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone !
> >
> > Best,
> > Danny Chan
> > 在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22，Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>，写道：
> > I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem, pull
> > requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better, because a
> > few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still have some
> > ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
> >
> > One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for
> > several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and did a
> > great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly be
> > for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no
> > individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
> >
> > I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo. Thank
> > you for pushing that change through!
> >
> > +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to
> > propose him also.
> >
> > I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every year.
> > Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and has
> > advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept Calcite in
> > good shape. Thank you, Francis!
> >
> > We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave
> > Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I do
> > note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica Go, in
> > fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole Calcite
> > project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between the
> > Calcite and Avatica communities.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
> >
> > Best,
> > Danny Chan
> > 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> >
> > Francis
> >
> >
> >
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>.
It's been a great year so far. Thanks for your great work Francis, you did
an excellent job!
I also like a lot the way that the mailing list works and the fact that we
are very active. Apart from helping each other it also centralizes a lot of
information, where people may find an answer to their problem quite easily.
When I first started to learn about Calcite, the list and the archives were
indispensable.
It is also very positive that we don't encounter very often regressions
(and most of those encountered were minor), which shows that the quality
standards of the project are really high and reviewers are really paying
attention on what is going in. I believe a lot in the motto of quality over
quantity.
Although we are managing PRs a bit better than the previous years, we have
to improve more. I had in my mind that if people assigned to themselves the
review of the JIRA/PR the feeling of responsibility would make things
advance faster. I tried applying this to myself but it didn't really work
much better since there is certainly a lack of time. Other than lack of
time sometimes it is our diligence that makes PRs wait a long time till
they get merged. Given that we have a version control system (and at any
time we can go back in time) we should be more confident about committing
things faster.
Calcite is a great project that could be used in many different ways by
many people. Unfortunately, I think we are losing many users simply because
they are not aware that such a project exists. At least in Europe, academic
people and as a result university students, graduates, and future engineers
do not know that Calcite exists. I gave a talk last year in a university in
France, and nobody in the audience had ever heard of Calcite before. I
think such introductory talks in universities should be done more often.
The talks about Calcite in conferences is of course a great way to spread
the word; thanks to everybody who got involved in them and keep it up.
Thanks a lot for the nomination for PMC chair! I will be honoured and very
happy to serve if I am elected.
Best,
Stamatis
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:40 AM Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> Actually i think it's time to have my say after receiving the email
> titiled `Have your say!` from Julian Hyde.
>
>
> As a person new this project, i am appreciated community's help for my
> question ml, and glad to see its communnity so active and harmonious. Other
> than that, it also gives me some new ideas for our incubator project. As of
> now, i am exploring Calcite, so if possible, i want to do some
> contributions to it as well.
>
>
> Hope Apache Calcite better and better in future.
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Trista
>
>
>
>
> Juan Pan
>
>
> panjuan@apache.org
> Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
>
>
> On 10/23/2019 11:21，Chunwei Lei<ch...@gmail.com> wrote：
> Thank you for your great work, Francis!
>
> In the past year, I deeply feel that Calcite community is becoming more and
> more active, which means that more and
> more companies start to use Apache Calcite. This is very exciting and
> encouraging.
>
> Thanks to active contributions and committers, pull requests could be
> reviewed and merged in a short time currently
> which really benefits a lot.
>
> I also feel that there are quite a few tough legacy issues left. I hope we
> can spend more time discussing and finding out
> a solution in the future.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Chunwei
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the awesome
> work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
>
> From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more and more
> popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great project, as
> a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And I feel
> very proud of that !
>
> For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite to have
> better integration, and I believe there would be more and more people to
> make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more suitable for
> production environments !
>
> I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are fire
> interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable
> conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation, the
> metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you guys in
> the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more valuable
> design !
>
> Thanks again to everyone !
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22，Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>，写道：
> I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem, pull
> requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better, because a
> few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still have some
> ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
>
> One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for
> several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and did a
> great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly be
> for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no
> individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
>
> I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo. Thank
> you for pushing that change through!
>
> +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to
> propose him also.
>
> I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every year.
> Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and has
> advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept Calcite in
> good shape. Thank you, Francis!
>
> We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave
> Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I do
> note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica Go, in
> fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole Calcite
> project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between the
> Calcite and Avatica communities.
>
> Julian
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>
> Francis
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Juan Pan <pa...@apache.org>.
Hi everyone,
Actually i think it's time to have my say after receiving the email titiled `Have your say!` from Julian Hyde.
As a person new this project, i am appreciated community's help for my question ml, and glad to see its communnity so active and harmonious. Other than that, it also gives me some new ideas for our incubator project. As of now, i am exploring Calcite, so if possible, i want to do some contributions to it as well.
Hope Apache Calcite better and better in future.
Best wishes,
Trista
Juan Pan
panjuan@apache.org
Juan Pan(Trista), Apache ShardingSphere
On 10/23/2019 11:21，Chunwei Lei<ch...@gmail.com> wrote：
Thank you for your great work, Francis!
In the past year, I deeply feel that Calcite community is becoming more and
more active, which means that more and
more companies start to use Apache Calcite. This is very exciting and
encouraging.
Thanks to active contributions and committers, pull requests could be
reviewed and merged in a short time currently
which really benefits a lot.
I also feel that there are quite a few tough legacy issues left. I hope we
can spend more time discussing and finding out
a solution in the future.
Thanks!
Best,
Chunwei
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the awesome
work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more and more
popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great project, as
a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And I feel
very proud of that !
For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite to have
better integration, and I believe there would be more and more people to
make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more suitable for
production environments !
I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are fire
interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable
conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation, the
metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you guys in
the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more valuable
design !
Thanks again to everyone !
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22，Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>，写道：
I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem, pull
requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better, because a
few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still have some
ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for
several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and did a
great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly be
for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no
individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo. Thank
you for pushing that change through!
+1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to
propose him also.
I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every year.
Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and has
advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept Calcite in
good shape. Thank you, Francis!
We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave
Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I do
note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica Go, in
fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole Calcite
project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between the
Calcite and Avatica communities.
Julian
On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
Francis
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Chunwei Lei <ch...@gmail.com>.
Thank you for your great work, Francis!
In the past year, I deeply feel that Calcite community is becoming more and
more active, which means that more and
more companies start to use Apache Calcite. This is very exciting and
encouraging.
Thanks to active contributions and committers, pull requests could be
reviewed and merged in a short time currently
which really benefits a lot.
I also feel that there are quite a few tough legacy issues left. I hope we
can spend more time discussing and finding out
a solution in the future.
Thanks!
Best,
Chunwei
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the awesome
> work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
>
> From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more and more
> popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great project, as
> a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And I feel
> very proud of that !
>
> For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite to have
> better integration, and I believe there would be more and more people to
> make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more suitable for
> production environments !
>
> I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are fire
> interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable
> conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation, the
> metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you guys in
> the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more valuable
> design !
>
> Thanks again to everyone !
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22，Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>，写道：
> > I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem, pull
> requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better, because a
> few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still have some
> ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
> >
> > One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for
> several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and did a
> great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly be
> for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no
> individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
> >
> > I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo. Thank
> you for pushing that change through!
> >
> > +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to
> propose him also.
> >
> > I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every year.
> Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and has
> advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept Calcite in
> good shape. Thank you, Francis!
> >
> > We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave
> Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I do
> note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica Go, in
> fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole Calcite
> project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between the
> Calcite and Avatica communities.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Danny Chan
> > > 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> > > >
> > > > Francis
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the state summarize Francis Chuang ! And thanks for the awesome work for keeping Calcite in good shape !
From my perspective, I really feel that Calcite is becoming more and more popular and there are many new groups trying to use this great project, as a reviewer, I saw many contributions from all kinds of people. And I feel very proud of that !
For the last year, I did many work to let Apache Flink and Calcite to have better integration, and I believe there would be more and more people to make contributions and make Calcite more pluggable and more suitable for production environments !
I also very enjoy the absolute harmony of the community, we are fire interesting discussions on the mailing list and we did have some valuable conclusion(like the Join expression rework, the trait sets propagation, the metadata etc.) And I felt very happy and respected to work with you guys in the community. Let’s keep the good communications and output more valuable design !
Thanks again to everyone !
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月22日 +0800 AM10:22，Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>，写道：
> I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem, pull requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better, because a few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still have some ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
>
> One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and did a great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly be for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
>
> I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo. Thank you for pushing that change through!
>
> +1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to propose him also.
>
> I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every year. Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and has advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept Calcite in good shape. Thank you, Francis!
>
> We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I do note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica Go, in fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole Calcite project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between the Calcite and Avatica communities.
>
> Julian
>
>
> > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
> >
> > Best,
> > Danny Chan
> > 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
> > >
> > > Francis
>
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
I agree that we’ve made good progress on last year’s big problem, pull requests languishing for too long. The situation has been better, because a few people are putting in considerable effort reviewing. We still have some ways to go, so let’s keep up the good work.
One of the successes of the year was to arrange release managers for several releases in advance. Each of the individuals stepped up and did a great job, and the release process was as smooth as it could possibly be for a project of this size. Because the work was shared, I think no individual felt that they were taking on an undue burden.
I also want to mention the fact that we now have an awesome logo. Thank you for pushing that change through!
+1 for Stamatis as candidate for the next PMC chair. I was going to propose him also.
I am proud that we have appointed a new person as PMC chair every year. Each chair has brought a new perspective and energy to the role, and has advanced the community. Francis is no exception, and he has kept Calcite in good shape. Thank you, Francis!
We were discussing in another thread about whether we should cleave Avatica into a more separate sub-project or top-level project. But I do note that Francis came from the Avatica side of the project (Avatica Go, in fact) and yet effortlessly and effectively spoke for the whole Calcite project. So, it gives me hope that there is still cohesion between the Calcite and Avatica communities.
Julian
> On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
>
> Best,
> Danny Chan
> 在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>>
>> Francis
Re: [DISCUSS] State of the project 2019
Posted by Danny Chan <yu...@gmail.com>.
Great work Francis! I’m + 1 for Stamatis being the PMC chair ~
Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年10月21日 +0800 AM6:47，dev@calcite.apache.org，写道：
>
> Francis