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Posted to dev@cayenne.apache.org by Nikita Timofeev <nt...@objectstyle.com> on 2021/12/16 11:31:43 UTC
Re[2]: [VOTE] Apache Cayenne 4.1.1 release
There's no general support for the JDK 17 in the 4.1 branch, only Modeler is updated. Full support for the 17 is in the 4.2 branch.
Not sure is it worth the effort to bring everything to the 4.1. Thursday, 16 December 2021, 02:07pm +03:00 from Aristedes Maniatis ari@ish.com.au.invalid :
>Its just that gradle 7 is needed to work with Java 17. So if an
>important set of fixes for 4.1.1 is Java 17 support, that might need to
>come along as well.
>
>Of course, that isn't essential, depending on how quickly we get to the
>final 4.2 release.
>
>
>Ari
>
>
>On 16/12/21 7:11pm, Nikita Timofeev wrote:
> Hi Ari,
>
> Gradle 7 fix is in the 4.2 version.
>
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:53 AM Aristedes Maniatis
>< ari@ish.com.au.invalid> wrote:
>> Did the fixes to allow cgen to work under gradle 7 come in with this
>> release?
>>
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>> On 16/12/21 2:22am, Nikita Timofeev wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Here is the 4.1.1 release. There are some useful fixes, including JDK
>>> 17 support in the Modeler.
>>>
>>> Release notes: https://github.com/apache/cayenne/blob/4.1.1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt
>>> Maven repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecayenne-1047/
>>> Assemblies: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cayenne/4.1.1/
>>>
>>> Please evaluate and cast your votes
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Nikita Timofeev
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Apache Cayenne 4.1.1 release
Posted by Nikita Timofeev <nt...@objectstyle.com>.
I'm -1 myself. There's a wrong version of the japp-maven-plugin, so
Windows modeler won't work at all if no JAVA_HOME is set.
So let's fix that and try to upgrade the Gradle plugin as well.
There should be no technical issues, this just requires some time to
backport everything carefully, there are several commits and not many
tests :(
Just as a thought, there should be no problem in using the 4.2 plugin
with the 4.1 runtime.
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 6:26 PM Andrus Adamchik <aa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't fully understand the LOE or any technical issues arising from Gradle 7 for 4.1, but as a matter of policy I think it is worth supporting 4.1 on Java 17. We set specific thresholds for backwards compatibility, but forward compatibility IMO should be indefinite for any supported release (i.e. currently 4.1 and newer).
>
> I would've still voted +1 for the release (assuming we'd handle Gradle in 4.1.2), but we also have that issue with Modeler (also Java 17 related) I mentioned in another message. So I am -1 for now, unless someone proves me wrong on the Windows Modeler issue :)
>
> Andrus
>
>
> > On Dec 16, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Nikita Timofeev <nt...@objectstyle.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > There's no general support for the JDK 17 in the 4.1 branch, only Modeler is updated. Full support for the 17 is in the 4.2 branch.
> > Not sure is it worth the effort to bring everything to the 4.1.
>
>
> > Thursday, 16 December 2021, 02:07pm +03:00 from Aristedes Maniatis ari@ish.com.au.invalid :
> >
> >> Its just that gradle 7 is needed to work with Java 17. So if an
> >> important set of fixes for 4.1.1 is Java 17 support, that might need to
> >> come along as well.
> >>
> >> Of course, that isn't essential, depending on how quickly we get to the
> >> final 4.2 release.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ari
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16/12/21 7:11pm, Nikita Timofeev wrote:
> >> Hi Ari,
> >>
> >> Gradle 7 fix is in the 4.2 version.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:53 AM Aristedes Maniatis
> >> < ari@ish.com.au.invalid> wrote:
> >>> Did the fixes to allow cgen to work under gradle 7 come in with this
> >>> release?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ari
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 16/12/21 2:22am, Nikita Timofeev wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is the 4.1.1 release. There are some useful fixes, including JDK
> >>>> 17 support in the Modeler.
> >>>>
> >>>> Release notes: https://github.com/apache/cayenne/blob/4.1.1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt
> >>>> Maven repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecayenne-1047/
> >>>> Assemblies: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cayenne/4.1.1/
> >>>>
> >>>> Please evaluate and cast your votes
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Nikita Timofeev
> >>
> >>
>
--
Best regards,
Nikita Timofeev
Re: [VOTE] Apache Cayenne 4.1.1 release
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <aa...@gmail.com>.
I don't fully understand the LOE or any technical issues arising from Gradle 7 for 4.1, but as a matter of policy I think it is worth supporting 4.1 on Java 17. We set specific thresholds for backwards compatibility, but forward compatibility IMO should be indefinite for any supported release (i.e. currently 4.1 and newer).
I would've still voted +1 for the release (assuming we'd handle Gradle in 4.1.2), but we also have that issue with Modeler (also Java 17 related) I mentioned in another message. So I am -1 for now, unless someone proves me wrong on the Windows Modeler issue :)
Andrus
> On Dec 16, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Nikita Timofeev <nt...@objectstyle.com> wrote:
>
>
> There's no general support for the JDK 17 in the 4.1 branch, only Modeler is updated. Full support for the 17 is in the 4.2 branch.
> Not sure is it worth the effort to bring everything to the 4.1.
> Thursday, 16 December 2021, 02:07pm +03:00 from Aristedes Maniatis ari@ish.com.au.invalid :
>
>> Its just that gradle 7 is needed to work with Java 17. So if an
>> important set of fixes for 4.1.1 is Java 17 support, that might need to
>> come along as well.
>>
>> Of course, that isn't essential, depending on how quickly we get to the
>> final 4.2 release.
>>
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>> On 16/12/21 7:11pm, Nikita Timofeev wrote:
>> Hi Ari,
>>
>> Gradle 7 fix is in the 4.2 version.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:53 AM Aristedes Maniatis
>> < ari@ish.com.au.invalid> wrote:
>>> Did the fixes to allow cgen to work under gradle 7 come in with this
>>> release?
>>>
>>>
>>> Ari
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16/12/21 2:22am, Nikita Timofeev wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Here is the 4.1.1 release. There are some useful fixes, including JDK
>>>> 17 support in the Modeler.
>>>>
>>>> Release notes: https://github.com/apache/cayenne/blob/4.1.1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt
>>>> Maven repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecayenne-1047/
>>>> Assemblies: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cayenne/4.1.1/
>>>>
>>>> Please evaluate and cast your votes
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Nikita Timofeev
>>
>>