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Skills, Resources and Mentors

This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.

In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
basis.

There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
started.

So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
common tasks in the project:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors

Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.

(Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
the AOO project)

This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
holidays, etc.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> >> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> >> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> >>
> >> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> >> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> >> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> >> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> >> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> >> basis.
> >>
> >> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> >> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> >> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> >> started.
> >>
> >> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> >> common tasks in the project:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> >>
> >> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> >> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> >>
> >> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> >> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> >> the AOO project)
> >>
> >> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> >> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> >> holidays, etc.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> > I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> > "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
> >
>
> I was thinking of web resources.   So overall the page lists tasks and
> skills, and also the resources needed to learn how to perform those
> tasks: web resources and experts/mentors in the project.
>
> -Rob
>

OK, thanks.


>
>
>
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> >  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> >                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>
>


-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
 to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
                             -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
>> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
>> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>>
>> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
>> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
>> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
>> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
>> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
>> basis.
>>
>> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
>> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
>> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
>> started.
>>
>> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
>> common tasks in the project:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>>
>> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
>> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>>
>> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
>> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
>> the AOO project)
>>
>> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
>> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
>> holidays, etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>

I was thinking of web resources.   So overall the page lists tasks and
skills, and also the resources needed to learn how to perform those
tasks: web resources and experts/mentors in the project.

-Rob



> Thanks.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Faisal Iqbal <iq...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I would like to help out in Documentation, Marketing, and Website areas.
Let me know how to include my name in the table.

Thanks,
Faisal




On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
> edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sonik
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> > >
> > > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > > basis.
> > >
> > > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > > started.
> > >
> > > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > > common tasks in the project:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> > >
> > > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> > >
> > > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > > the AOO project)
> > >
> > > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > > holidays, etc.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> > "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> >  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> >                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> >
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Faisal Iqbal <iq...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I would like to help out in Documentation, Marketing, and Website areas.
Let me know how to include my name in the table.

Thanks,
Faisal




On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
> edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sonik
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> > >
> > > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > > basis.
> > >
> > > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > > started.
> > >
> > > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > > common tasks in the project:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> > >
> > > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> > >
> > > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > > the AOO project)
> > >
> > > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > > holidays, etc.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> > "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> >  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> >                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> >
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Faisal Iqbal <iq...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I would like to help out in Documentation, Marketing, and Website areas.
Let me know how to include my name in the table.

Thanks,
Faisal




On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
> edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sonik
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> > >
> > > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > > basis.
> > >
> > > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > > started.
> > >
> > > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > > common tasks in the project:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> > >
> > > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> > >
> > > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > > the AOO project)
> > >
> > > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > > holidays, etc.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> > "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> >  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> >                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> >
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Faisal Iqbal <iq...@gmail.com>.
Thanks.

Faisal


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:

> Verify you are registered to the wiki.
> --
> Sent from my Nokia N900
>
> On Tue Oct   1 00:53:51 2013 Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
> > edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sonik
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.   We have many routine
> > > > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even
> > > > during ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing
> > > > services.
> > > >
> > > > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > > > project understand how to do it.   For example, moderating the
> mailing
> > > > lists.   In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > > > understands how to do a task.     We also have many volunteers,
> signing
> > > > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > > > basis.
> > > >
> > > > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > > > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how
> > > > to do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > > > started.
> > > >
> > > > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > > > common tasks in the project:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > > > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> > > >
> > > > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > > > Infra and not listed here.   I'm focused on the tasks that are owned
> > > > by the AOO project)
> > > >
> > > > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > > > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > > > holidays, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean
> > > by "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources
> > > or ???
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > MzK
> > >
> > > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> > > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> > > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> > >
>
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
Verify you are registered to the wiki.
-- 
Sent from my Nokia N900

On Tue Oct   1 00:53:51 2013 Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
> edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sonik
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.   We have many routine
> > > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even
> > > during ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing
> > > services.
> > > 
> > > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > > project understand how to do it.   For example, moderating the mailing
> > > lists.   In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > > understands how to do a task.     We also have many volunteers, signing
> > > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > > basis.
> > > 
> > > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how
> > > to do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > > started.
> > > 
> > > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > > common tasks in the project:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> > > 
> > > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> > > 
> > > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > > Infra and not listed here.   I'm focused on the tasks that are owned
> > > by the AOO project)
> > > 
> > > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > > holidays, etc.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > -Rob
> > > 
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean
> > by "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources
> > or ???
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> > 
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> > to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> > -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> > 


Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Faisal Iqbal <iq...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I would like to help out in Documentation, Marketing, and Website areas.
Let me know how to include my name in the table.

Thanks,
Faisal




On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
> edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sonik
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> > >
> > > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > > basis.
> > >
> > > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > > started.
> > >
> > > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > > common tasks in the project:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> > >
> > > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> > >
> > > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > > the AOO project)
> > >
> > > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > > holidays, etc.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> > "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
> >  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
> >                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
> >
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?

Thanks,
Sonik


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> >
> > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > basis.
> >
> > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > started.
> >
> > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > common tasks in the project:
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> >
> > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> >
> > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > the AOO project)
> >
> > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > holidays, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?

Thanks,
Sonik


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> >
> > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > basis.
> >
> > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > started.
> >
> > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > common tasks in the project:
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> >
> > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> >
> > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > the AOO project)
> >
> > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > holidays, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
>> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
>> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>>
>> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
>> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
>> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
>> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
>> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
>> basis.
>>
>> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
>> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
>> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
>> started.
>>
>> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
>> common tasks in the project:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>>
>> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
>> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>>
>> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
>> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
>> the AOO project)
>>
>> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
>> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
>> holidays, etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>

I was thinking of web resources.   So overall the page lists tasks and
skills, and also the resources needed to learn how to perform those
tasks: web resources and experts/mentors in the project.

-Rob



> Thanks.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
>> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
>> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>>
>> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
>> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
>> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
>> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
>> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
>> basis.
>>
>> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
>> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
>> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
>> started.
>>
>> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
>> common tasks in the project:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>>
>> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
>> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>>
>> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
>> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
>> the AOO project)
>>
>> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
>> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
>> holidays, etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>

I was thinking of web resources.   So overall the page lists tasks and
skills, and also the resources needed to learn how to perform those
tasks: web resources and experts/mentors in the project.

-Rob



> Thanks.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
>> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
>> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>>
>> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
>> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
>> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
>> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
>> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
>> basis.
>>
>> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
>> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
>> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
>> started.
>>
>> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
>> common tasks in the project:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>>
>> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
>> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>>
>> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
>> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
>> the AOO project)
>>
>> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
>> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
>> holidays, etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>

I was thinking of web resources.   So overall the page lists tasks and
skills, and also the resources needed to learn how to perform those
tasks: web resources and experts/mentors in the project.

-Rob



> Thanks.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Antoine Chevrier <1a...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rob and all others.
Impossible to edit the page after being connected to the wiki: don't know
why ....
Anyway, I wanted to add something like the following, in marketing :
"improving the general aspect of visual application elements composing Aoo
screens, in order to improve the readability of menus, buttons, pages
tools, ..."
If this have an interest for somebody who have access to edit mode, then,
add it into the table ... or let me know why the availability of Edit mode
has not reach my brain yet ...
Have pleasant moments,
Antoine


2013/9/30 Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> >
> > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > basis.
> >
> > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > started.
> >
> > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > common tasks in the project:
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> >
> > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> >
> > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > the AOO project)
> >
> > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > holidays, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
>> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
>> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>>
>> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
>> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
>> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
>> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
>> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
>> basis.
>>
>> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
>> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
>> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
>> started.
>>
>> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
>> common tasks in the project:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>>
>> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
>> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>>
>> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
>> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
>> the AOO project)
>>
>> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
>> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
>> holidays, etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>

I was thinking of web resources.   So overall the page lists tasks and
skills, and also the resources needed to learn how to perform those
tasks: web resources and experts/mentors in the project.

-Rob



> Thanks.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?

Thanks,
Sonik


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> >
> > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > basis.
> >
> > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > started.
> >
> > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > common tasks in the project:
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> >
> > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> >
> > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > the AOO project)
> >
> > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > holidays, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Sonik Satapathy <s....@gmail.com>.
Hi,

I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't
edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ?

Thanks,
Sonik


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> > tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> > ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
> >
> > In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> > project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> > lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> > understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> > up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> > basis.
> >
> > There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> > routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> > do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> > started.
> >
> > So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> > common tasks in the project:
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
> >
> > Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> > expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
> >
> > (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> > Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> > the AOO project)
> >
> > This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> > dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> > holidays, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
> I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
> "Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
>  to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
>                              -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain
>

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>
> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> basis.
>
> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> started.
>
> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> common tasks in the project:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>
> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>
> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> the AOO project)
>
> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> holidays, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
"Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???

Thanks.

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
 to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
                             -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>
> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> basis.
>
> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> started.
>
> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> common tasks in the project:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>
> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>
> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> the AOO project)
>
> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> holidays, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
"Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???

Thanks.

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged
 to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
                             -- "Following the Equator", Mark Twain

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Rainer Bielefeld
<ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> wrote:
> Rob Weir schrieb:
>
>
>> Upper right corner of page: Edit, Share, Add, Tools menu items.
>
>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Als long as I am not logged in I only see "Tools", after LogIn additionally
> "Share".
>
> But not "Edit", "Add". And I am pretty sure that they were available for me
> few weeks ago.
>

OK.  There were some changes made to the ACL to prevent accidental
changes to the release notes.  But the impact of the ACL change was
supposed to be limited to the release notes.  I'll see if I can find
more.  I'll resend the root email when we can all actually edit the
wiki ;-)

-Rob


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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de>.
Rob Weir schrieb:

> Upper right corner of page: Edit, Share, Add, Tools menu items.


Hi Rob,

Als long as I am not logged in I only see "Tools", after LogIn 
additionally "Share".

But not "Edit", "Add". And I am pretty sure that they were available for 
me few weeks ago.

CU

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Rainer Bielefeld
<ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> wrote:
> Rob Weir schrieb:
>
>
>> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> I see the same, but unfortunately I see no "Click here to edit page" link. I
> can't remember where it was, but because of the other comments here I think
> it's not a problem with my memory, but simply the edit link is invisible for
> users with low permission level.
>

Upper right corner of page: Edit, Share, Add, Tools menu items.


> Can you send a screenshot showing where the "Click for Edit" function should
> be visible (or attach it in a new Bug for this issue)?
>
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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de>.
Rob Weir schrieb:

> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".

Hi Rob,

I see the same, but unfortunately I see no "Click here to edit page" 
link. I can't remember where it was, but because of the other comments 
here I think it's not a problem with my memory, but simply the edit link 
is invisible for users with low permission level.

Can you send a screenshot showing where the "Click for Edit" function 
should be visible (or attach it in a new Bug for this issue)?

CU

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>
>>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't
>>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>>
>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>>
>>
>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last week, but
>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this lock-out
>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>>
>
> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
> differenent?

I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
	No view restrictions are defined for this page
	No edit restrictions are defined for this page

But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share" 
link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I 
haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too if 
I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the 
"Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.

> I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.

Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>
>>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't
>>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>>
>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>>
>>
>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last week, but
>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this lock-out
>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>>
>
> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
> differenent?

I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
	No view restrictions are defined for this page
	No edit restrictions are defined for this page

But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share" 
link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I 
haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too if 
I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the 
"Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.

> I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.

Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> I cannot edit pages on cwiki.

It is a policy change by Infra, in order to block spam. This closes the 
current discussion. This doesn't solve the problem of course, but 
discussion about this should continue in the

[CWiki] new default access rights active

thread started by Oliver minutes ago.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Samer Mansour <sa...@gmail.com>.
It is not letting me edit in either firefox or chrome.  Is there something
we can add to the URL to go directly to the page editor for a page, any
work arounds?

-Sam


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/10/2 Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net>
>
> > Raphael Bircher wrote:
> >
> >> Am 02.10.13 00:14, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  2013/10/1 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>  Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 01.10.2013 17:57, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Herbert Duerr wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Tal Daniel schrieb:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki,
> >>>>>>>>>> but I
> >>>>>>>>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently
> also
> >>>>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>>>> find a way how to edit that page.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last
> >>>>>>>>> week, but
> >>>>>>>>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is
> this
> >>>>>>>>> lock-out
> >>>>>>>>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this
> >>>>>>>> page".
> >>>>>>>> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
> >>>>>>>> differenent?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
> >>>>>>>       No view restrictions are defined for this page
> >>>>>>>       No edit restrictions are defined for this page
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the
> "Share"
> >>>>>>> link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I
> >>>>>>> haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there
> too
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> if
> >>>>
> >>>>> I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the
> >>>>>>> "Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as
> >>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>> Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Herbert
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  I can confirm that there is indeed a problem with editing
> documents
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>> the cwiki. I checked a few documents including this one and the
> 4.0.1
> >>>>>> release notes and all have no edit restrictions set, but the edit
> >>>>>> button
> >>>>>> is no longer visible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  For me the "Edit" button is also not visible.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Same here: the "restrictions" menu says that there are no
> >>>> restrictions, but
> >>>> I cannot edit any page, not even the ones I created.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Ricardo
> >>>>
> >>>>  true enough...no pages seem to be editable!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  CWiki was updated. For me it works again. Maybe you have to logout and
> >> login.
> >>
> >> Greetings Raphael
> >>
> > Greetings Raphael;
> >
> > I just tried again with login clear cash logout login again. Still no
> edit
> > button available. Very strange.
> >
>
> Same here. I logged in and out several times, cleaned the browser cache,
> tried with other browsers... nothing, I cannot edit pages on cwiki.
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo
>
>
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Keith
> >
> >
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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com>.
2013/10/2 Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net>

> Raphael Bircher wrote:
>
>> Am 02.10.13 00:14, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  2013/10/1 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01.10.2013 17:57, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki,
>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also
>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last
>>>>>>>>> week, but
>>>>>>>>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this
>>>>>>>>> lock-out
>>>>>>>>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this
>>>>>>>> page".
>>>>>>>> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
>>>>>>>> differenent?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
>>>>>>>       No view restrictions are defined for this page
>>>>>>>       No edit restrictions are defined for this page
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share"
>>>>>>> link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I
>>>>>>> haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> if
>>>>
>>>>> I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the
>>>>>>> "Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Herbert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I can confirm that there is indeed a problem with editing documents
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the cwiki. I checked a few documents including this one and the 4.0.1
>>>>>> release notes and all have no edit restrictions set, but the edit
>>>>>> button
>>>>>> is no longer visible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  For me the "Edit" button is also not visible.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Same here: the "restrictions" menu says that there are no
>>>> restrictions, but
>>>> I cannot edit any page, not even the ones I created.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ricardo
>>>>
>>>>  true enough...no pages seem to be editable!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  CWiki was updated. For me it works again. Maybe you have to logout and
>> login.
>>
>> Greetings Raphael
>>
> Greetings Raphael;
>
> I just tried again with login clear cash logout login again. Still no edit
> button available. Very strange.
>

Same here. I logged in and out several times, cleaned the browser cache,
tried with other browsers... nothing, I cannot edit pages on cwiki.

Regards,
Ricardo



>
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> Keith
>
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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Raphael Bircher wrote:
> Am 02.10.13 00:14, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 2013/10/1 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01.10.2013 17:57, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki,
>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last
>>>>>>>> week, but
>>>>>>>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this
>>>>>>>> lock-out
>>>>>>>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
>>>>>>> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
>>>>>>> differenent?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
>>>>>>       No view restrictions are defined for this page
>>>>>>       No edit restrictions are defined for this page
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share"
>>>>>> link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I
>>>>>> haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too
>>> if
>>>>>> I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the
>>>>>> "Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Herbert
>>>>>>
>>>>> I can confirm that there is indeed a problem with editing documents on
>>>>> the cwiki. I checked a few documents including this one and the 4.0.1
>>>>> release notes and all have no edit restrictions set, but the edit
>>>>> button
>>>>> is no longer visible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> For me the "Edit" button is also not visible.
>>>>
>>> Same here: the "restrictions" menu says that there are no
>>> restrictions, but
>>> I cannot edit any page, not even the ones I created.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ricardo
>>>
>> true enough...no pages seem to be editable!
>>
>>
>>
> CWiki was updated. For me it works again. Maybe you have to logout and
> login.
>
> Greetings Raphael
Greetings Raphael;

I just tried again with login clear cash logout login again. Still no 
edit button available. Very strange.

Regards
Keith


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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch>.
Am 02.10.13 00:14, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2013/10/1 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01.10.2013 17:57, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>>
>>>> Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
>>>>>>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also
>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last
>>>>>>> week, but
>>>>>>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this
>>>>>>> lock-out
>>>>>>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
>>>>>> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
>>>>>> differenent?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
>>>>>       No view restrictions are defined for this page
>>>>>       No edit restrictions are defined for this page
>>>>>
>>>>> But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share"
>>>>> link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I
>>>>> haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too
>> if
>>>>> I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the
>>>>> "Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.
>>>>>
>>>>>   I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.
>>>>> Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?
>>>>>
>>>>> Herbert
>>>>>
>>>> I can confirm that there is indeed a problem with editing documents on
>>>> the cwiki. I checked a few documents including this one and the 4.0.1
>>>> release notes and all have no edit restrictions set, but the edit button
>>>> is no longer visible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> For me the "Edit" button is also not visible.
>>>
>> Same here: the "restrictions" menu says that there are no restrictions, but
>> I cannot edit any page, not even the ones I created.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ricardo
>>
> true enough...no pages seem to be editable!
>
>
>
CWiki was updated. For me it works again. Maybe you have to logout and 
login.

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/10/1 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > On 01.10.2013 17:57, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> >
> >> Herbert Duerr wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
> >>>>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also
> >>>>>> can't
> >>>>>> find a way how to edit that page.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last
> >>>>> week, but
> >>>>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this
> >>>>> lock-out
> >>>>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
> >>>> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
> >>>> differenent?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
> >>>      No view restrictions are defined for this page
> >>>      No edit restrictions are defined for this page
> >>>
> >>> But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share"
> >>> link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I
> >>> haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too
> if
> >>> I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the
> >>> "Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.
> >>>
> >>>  I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?
> >>>
> >>> Herbert
> >>>
> >> I can confirm that there is indeed a problem with editing documents on
> >> the cwiki. I checked a few documents including this one and the 4.0.1
> >> release notes and all have no edit restrictions set, but the edit button
> >> is no longer visible.
> >>
> >>
> > For me the "Edit" button is also not visible.
> >
>
> Same here: the "restrictions" menu says that there are no restrictions, but
> I cannot edit any page, not even the ones I created.
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo
>

true enough...no pages seem to be editable!


>
>
>
> >
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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com>.
2013/10/1 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>

> Hi,
>
>
> On 01.10.2013 17:57, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>
>> Herbert Duerr wrote:
>>
>>> On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
>>>>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last
>>>>> week, but
>>>>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this
>>>>> lock-out
>>>>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
>>>> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
>>>> differenent?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
>>>      No view restrictions are defined for this page
>>>      No edit restrictions are defined for this page
>>>
>>> But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share"
>>> link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I
>>> haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too if
>>> I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the
>>> "Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.
>>>
>>>  I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?
>>>
>>> Herbert
>>>
>> I can confirm that there is indeed a problem with editing documents on
>> the cwiki. I checked a few documents including this one and the 4.0.1
>> release notes and all have no edit restrictions set, but the edit button
>> is no longer visible.
>>
>>
> For me the "Edit" button is also not visible.
>

Same here: the "restrictions" menu says that there are no restrictions, but
I cannot edit any page, not even the ones I created.

Regards,
Ricardo



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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,

On 01.10.2013 17:57, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Herbert Duerr wrote:
>> On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
>>>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also
>>>>> can't
>>>>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last
>>>> week, but
>>>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this
>>>> lock-out
>>>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
>>> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
>>> differenent?
>>
>> I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
>>      No view restrictions are defined for this page
>>      No edit restrictions are defined for this page
>>
>> But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share"
>> link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I
>> haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too if
>> I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the
>> "Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.
>>
>>> I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.
>>
>> Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?
>>
>> Herbert
> I can confirm that there is indeed a problem with editing documents on
> the cwiki. I checked a few documents including this one and the 4.0.1
> release notes and all have no edit restrictions set, but the edit button
> is no longer visible.
>

For me the "Edit" button is also not visible.

Best regards, Oliver.

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Herbert Duerr wrote:
> On 01.10.2013 14:03, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
>>>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't
>>>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>>>
>>>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>>>
>>>
>>> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last
>>> week, but
>>> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this
>>> lock-out
>>> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>>>
>>
>> The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
>> This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
>> differenent?
>
> I'm logged in and that Restrictions page says that:
>      No view restrictions are defined for this page
>      No edit restrictions are defined for this page
>
> But the "Edit" link that used to be on the page (left to the "Share"
> link) is missing. That edit link is still visible on a page that I
> haven't refreshed since last week. I'm sure it will be gone there too if
> I reload the page. Also the "Add" link, which used to be between the
> "Share" and the "Tools" link is missing.
>
>> I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.
>
> Do you happen to have the admin role in our CWikis?
>
> Herbert
I can confirm that there is indeed a problem with editing documents on 
the cwiki. I checked a few documents including this one and the 4.0.1 
release notes and all have no edit restrictions set, but the edit button 
is no longer visible.

Regards
Keith


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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>
>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>
>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't
>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>
>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>
>
> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last week, but
> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this lock-out
> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>

The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
differenent?

I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.

-Rob


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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>
>> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>>>
>>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
>> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't
>> find a way how to edit that page.
>>
>> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
>
>
> I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last week, but
> this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this lock-out
> a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?
>

The web page says: "No edit restrictions are defined for this page".
This is under Tools/Restrictions menu item.  Do you see something
differenent?

I was able to edit it (of course).  It looks like Andrea was as well.

-Rob


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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>
> Hi,
>
> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't
> find a way how to edit that page.
>
> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?

I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last week, 
but this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this 
lock-out a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?

Herbert

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
On 01.10.2013 07:14, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> Tal Daniel schrieb:
>> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
>
> Hi,
>
> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I
> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't
> find a way how to edit that page.
>
> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?

I cannot edit pages in the cwiki either. I was able to do it last week, 
but this week I can't, because the edit-page option is missing. Is this 
lock-out a collateral damage of the release notes being protected?

Herbert

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
Maybe we should move this to MWiki and avoid the hassle.
-- 
Sent from my Nokia N900

On Tue Oct   1 00:14:21 2013 Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> wrote:
> Tal Daniel schrieb:
> > But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I 
> added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't 
> find a way how to edit that page.
> 
> It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?
> 
> CU
> 
> Rainer
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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de>.
Tal Daniel schrieb:
> But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).

Hi,

I can confirm that problem. I am not familiar with with cwiki, but I 
added myself to "Directory of volunteers", where I currently also can't 
find a way how to edit that page.

It seems currently cwiki only can be edited by very few persons?

CU

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> [...] There should be a way that we can more clearly identify [...] who
> knows how to do [...], who wants to learn how to [...], and who is willing
> to mentor or teach others how to get
> started.
>
> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> common tasks in the project:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>
> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>

Rob, nice idea (somewhat overlaps the existing Directory of Volunteers
page),
But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).

Tal

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>
> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> basis.
>
> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> started.
>
> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> common tasks in the project:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>
> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>
> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> the AOO project)
>
> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> holidays, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
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I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by
"Learning Resources" -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ???

Thanks.

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Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> [...] There should be a way that we can more clearly identify [...] who
> knows how to do [...], who wants to learn how to [...], and who is willing
> to mentor or teach others how to get
> started.
>
> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> common tasks in the project:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>
> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>

Rob, nice idea (somewhat overlaps the existing Directory of Volunteers
page),
But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).

Tal

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> [...] There should be a way that we can more clearly identify [...] who
> knows how to do [...], who wants to learn how to [...], and who is willing
> to mentor or teach others how to get
> started.
>
> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> common tasks in the project:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>
> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>

Rob, nice idea (somewhat overlaps the existing Directory of Volunteers
page),
But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).

Tal

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> [...] There should be a way that we can more clearly identify [...] who
> knows how to do [...], who wants to learn how to [...], and who is willing
> to mentor or teach others how to get
> started.
>
> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> common tasks in the project:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>
> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>

Rob, nice idea (somewhat overlaps the existing Directory of Volunteers
page),
But I couldn't edit the wiki page (I'm logged in to as Talchu).

Tal

Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors

Posted by Pedro Albuquerque <pa...@gmail.com>.
Em 30/09/2013 16:58, Rob Weir escreveu:
> This projects depends on volunteer efforts.  We have many routine
> tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during
> ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services.
>
> In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the
> project understand how to do it.  For example, moderating the mailing
> lists.  In other areas we might only have a single person who really
> understands how to do a task.   We also have many volunteers, signing
> up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily
> basis.
>
> There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the
> routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to
> do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get
> started.
>
> So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most
> common tasks in the project:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors
>
> Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an
> expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn.
>
> (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache
> Infra and not listed here.  I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by
> the AOO project)
>
> This might also help is identify areas where we are currently
> dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for
> holidays, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
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Hi Rob,
I would be interested in learning in how to update a translation and 
everything about Websites, this one beginning from scratch .
As far as I know there is no one else in my country working on AOO, so 
it will probably be needed. Of course, being a volunteer I may, 
sometimes, have time restrictions but I'll do all I can.
Like Taj said I couldn't edit the page also, so I'm letting you know 
this way.
Regards,
Pedro.